Not By Works

[BillG]

Headquarters. It usually hangs down from the pulpit. It is down to the individual church.

Cos I thought you were having a dig at me.

Now as I said to you a few posts back in a response you made to a post I made to you.

I said to you "I am not having a dig at you"
If I wasn't doing it then why would I do that now?

That is not my style.

The fact is that there are people on here who insult generally but also personally.

So here is an example of the reality.

I believe in ES/OSAS or whatever you want to call it.

The generalisation is that those who believe that are teaching a license to sin and it's covered.

The personal is when it's directed to an individual.
That has happened to me.
Openly on the forum and behind the scenes via PM.
Been called a hyper-grace, greasy gracer and I'm sending people to hell as a result.

And the fact is that even though I deny that and think such teaching is abhorrent and I would walk away from a who walked in that way after correction is totally ignored.

So in a sense generalisation insults can also be taken personally.

But rest assured I was not having a dig at you.

If I was then you would know it.

 

[Judges1318]

Just keep trusting in Christ for salvation and you will never be on that roller coaster. You will always be firmly secure in Christ with nothing to fear.

This was voted as being 'boring'.
The church is apostate.
Jesus is coming soon.

 

[EleventhHour]

God turns you over to that unbelief,

Does not happen

 

[EleventhHour]

This was voted as being 'boring'.
The church is apostate.
Jesus is coming soon.

It is boring because state something over and over again doe not make it true.

 

[PS]

Now as I said to you a few posts back in a response you made to a post I made to you.

I said to you "I am not having a dig at you"
If I wasn't doing it then why would I do that now?

That is not my style.

The fact is that there are people on here who insult generally but also personally.

So here is an example of the reality.

I believe in ES/OSAS or whatever you want to call it.

The generalisation is that those who believe that are teaching a license to sin and it's covered.

The personal is when it's directed to an individual.
That has happened to me.
Openly on the forum and behind the scenes via PM.
Been called a hyper-grace, greasy gracer and I'm sending people to hell as a result.

And the fact is that even though I deny that and think such teaching is abhorrent and I would walk away from a who walked in that way after correction is totally ignored.

So in a sense generalisation insults can also be taken personally.

But rest assured I was not having a dig at you.

If I was then you would know it.

Thank you for your openness and I will remove the thumbs down. You are an ace guy.

 

[BillG]

That is bad, and I will let you into a little secret, neither do I. There are other gifts though but I do not talk about it.

Sorry are you saying because I don't speak in tongues then it's evidence I'm not saved?

The above was my initial thoughts.

But having read it again I am now reading that you are saying you do not speak in tongues either.

I had to read it again because to be honest if that is what you were saying I was going to explode.

Those words said to me haunted me and messed with my head and walk with God.

I'm only sharing the above because it's easy to read something into what the person is saying but in fact is not.

To be honest I have no idea what gift I have but I ask God to manifest the fruit of the Holy Spirit in me.

 

[BillG]

Thank you for your openness and I will remove the thumbs down. You are an ace guy.

Any chance you can tell my kids that

 

[Lightskin]

Following Jesus is maintaining your Salvation! Who do you follow then?

Time after time after time you deny one has to maintain their salvation, yet here you admit your belief that one must indeed maintain their salvation. Thanks for playing.

 

[PS]

Sorry are you saying because I don't speak in tongues then it's evidence I'm not saved?

The above was my initial thoughts.

But having read it again I am now reading that you are saying you do not speak in tongues either.

I had to read it again because to be honest if that is what you were saying I was going to explode.

Those words said to me haunted me and messed with my head and walk with God.

I'm only sharing the above because it's easy to read something into what the person is saying but in fact is not.

To be honest I have no idea what gift I have but I ask God to manifest the fruit of the Holy Spirit in me.

When I said, "that's bad" I meant it was bad of the church, not you. It is true I do not speak in tongues either and there are a lot more who don't. The church is for everyone, and we are brothers in Christ. God bless you. Sent with Christian love.

 

[Lightskin]

It is interesting that the person you disagree with every single time he writes anything on here was told by his family that last night at family bible study he had the glory of God brightly shining on his face.

My rod buds, flourishes and produces almonds. But! (And this is a big but,) I could still wind up in Hell per Matthew 7 and I'm honest enough, and have received enough grace, to say that.

IOWs you’re saying you’ve received enough grace to wind up in hell. Interesting.

 

[PS]

Time after time after time you deny one has to maintain their salvation, yet here you admit your belief that one must indeed maintain their salvation. Thanks for playing.

I think you see things I don't, and do not intend.

 

[Lightskin]

I think you see things I don't, and do not intend.

That’s an obvious understatement. I see the fullness of God’s irrevocable grace through faith in Jesus Christ. You definitely do not see that.

 

[PS]

Any chance you can tell my kids that

If they are like you, they will be nice kids, say hello from the guy who discovered the real Robin of Loxley.

 

[PS]

That’s an obvious understatement. I see the fullness of God’s irrevocable grace through faith in Jesus Christ. You definitely do not see that.

Wrong.

 

[PS]

There are some lovely things said on here, not.

 

[Judges1318]

There are some lovely things said on here, not.

These people don't realize it, but they reveal their true selves by how they treat their enemies.
Anyone can be nice to those who agree with them. Even pagans do that.
The real test of character is in how you treat your enemies.

 

[Judges1318]

I see the fullness of God’s irrevocable grace through faith in Jesus Christ. You definitely do not see that.

Millions of Israelites who had received the gifts and calling of God have died and gone to hell. How does that show us that God's gifts and calling being irrevocable means what osas says it means?

 

[RebuildJesussChurch]

These people don't realize it, but they reveal their true selves by how they treat their enemies.
Anyone can be nice to those who agree with them. Even pagans do that.
The real test of character is in how you treat your enemies.

Oh, that's ok. They are free to disobey Jesus. They are going to heaven. But "He's the source of eternal salvation to those who obey Him." The Bible is full of such works heresy, lol.

 

[Judges1318]

IOWs you’re saying you’ve received enough grace to wind up in hell. Interesting.

It means grace is not a license to sin with impunity as the new osas says it is.

 

[EleventhHour]

These people don't realize it, but they reveal their true selves by how they treat their enemies.
Anyone can be nice to those who agree with them. Even pagans do that.
The real test of character is in how you treat your enemies.

We are disagreeing on God's truth....which we are called to defend.

Being nice and kind in words is lending some credence to your false dogma ... I myself am not able to do that.... your dogma is insulting to the Grace of God by which we are saved and held.

Pagans disagree on how to properly poach an egg I see no correlation to defending the Gospel but maybe you do.