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John 10:4
When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice.

John 10:14
I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me,

John 10:16
I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd.

Our LORD Jesus knows who are His...

John 10:28
I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

We are His sheep , protected from the wolves , they try to so hard to put fear into us by their losable salvation , but our Lord and Savior says " NO , THEY ARE MINE , My Father gave them to Me \:)/.
...xox...
Amen Rose.....keep swinging sister
 
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Yes they deceitfully flip it around ... put the focus back on man.

The truth is that we are eternally saved because He never, ever leaves us!!
If he never leaves us...He never leaves us and our "will" has no place in the conversation.
They will find put one day....BUT LORD....I KEPT BELIEVING AND DOING IN YOUR NAME.....BLAH BLAH BLAH......they have no faith in Jesus!
 
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Grade Eight Grammar:

So tells us what is the subject of this sentence?

Is it salvation?

NO, holy and blameless is not a reference to salvation.

So what is the subject?

Maintaining hope so that one is spurred towards sanctification.

Exactly

End of lesson.
Hahahahhaahahhaahha Ole Maynard been peddling Catholic dogma for some time now.....
 
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The whole Bible as well, so we get a good balanced understanding instead of picking and choosing what you like. Those scriptures need to be included with the rest of your theology, instead of dismissing them.
She does study and uses contextual HONESTY unlike salvation losers.....!
 
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I do not like the way you talk to people.
I don't like the way you and your clown friends devalue Jesus, his faith, power, blood and work on man's behalf by your self saving, self maintained false dogma that has no power to save a man, much less a flea....
 

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These clowns will find out that they had no faith in Jesus.....albeit way to late to do any good
they are so blind to their own contradictory beliefs, it is sad.

they say " oh, we know that we are saved only by belief", then they keep talking and attaching requirements on top of believing, thus negating what they just said about salvation by belief only.

and they can't see it..
 
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The testing of your faith occurs in this life, not the life to come.


Whether or not your faith continues determines if you will continue to possess the life that is eternal.


That's right.
If you go back to unbelief and God turns you over to that unbelief, there ain't no coming back. God doesn't allow that.
False again Cainologist
 
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These people don't realize it, but they reveal their true selves by how they treat their enemies.;)
Anyone can be nice to those who agree with them. Even pagans do that.
The real test of character is in how you treat your enemies.
Jesus used a whip and very pointed names and designations.....Cainologist!
 
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I have seen lovely things said on here. And also things not lovely said. If you look for the lovely, you will find it.

" Think of all the beauty still left around you and be happy"
- Anne Frank
I will never be friendly and or coddle the enemies of Christ that devalue his faith, grace, mercy, love, blood, promises, power, sacrifice and work on our behalf......ever!
 
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That is exactly what is happening in this thread.
This thread seems to exist for the very purpose of going on that rant.
It's almost like the opening post was inviting the challenge, not making a helpful contribution to believers.
One lie after another does not prove your salvation Ralph.....so far you have proven by your words that Jesus does not know you!
 
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So basically new OSAS and old OSAS teach that we can sin with impunity?
That is the lie he constantly spreads because he has no substance in any other thing that comes out of his mouth other than devaluing Jesus and lifting self effort
 

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I will never be friendly and or coddle the enemies of Christ that devalue his faith, grace, mercy, love, blood, promises, power, sacrifice and work on our behalf......ever!
If someone believes salvation can be lost, that doesn't necessary mean the person is an enemy of Christ. The person may very well believe in Jesus and his death on the cross and resurrection and have received him.