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I gave your post a thumbs up because these are the plain scriptures of the Bible.
Hateful people dividing over doctrine are murderers and do not have eternal life in them.
I know John is speaking generally.
At the very least, haters/murderers in the church don't have the mature experience of eternal life in them.
They have yet to know God that way.
Their murderous hatred and contempt for others and the reasons they have it shows that.
Hateful people dividing over doctrine are murderers and do not have eternal life in them.
I know John is speaking generally.
At the very least, haters/murderers in the church don't have the mature experience of eternal life in them.
They have yet to know God that way.
Their murderous hatred and contempt for others and the reasons they have it shows that.
I know you don't see it that way.
You are not trained in this area.
You are only focused on osas doctrinal constructs, not on what really matters.
Your behavior shows me this.
I blame the Protestant church that you are sure saved you from the error of the Catholic church.
They are teaching doctrines, not what really matters.
You are not trained in this area.
You are only focused on osas doctrinal constructs, not on what really matters.
Your behavior shows me this.
I blame the Protestant church that you are sure saved you from the error of the Catholic church.
They are teaching doctrines, not what really matters.
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Yes, let us not divide over doctrine, lest us all, in a false union of truth and lies, come together and sing Kumba ya.... No, not happening.
There is only one Truth.... we are not debating whether the verse 1 John 5:7 was added by Erasmus, we are discussing the very nature of salvation.
I for one, will never embrace, nor let it go unchallenged, your false dogma of work, (i.e. keep believing).
If you think that makes me hateful, unsaved, that is your judgement of me which is your responsibility not mine.
There is only one Truth.... we are not debating whether the verse 1 John 5:7 was added by Erasmus, we are discussing the very nature of salvation.
I for one, will never embrace, nor let it go unchallenged, your false dogma of work, (i.e. keep believing).
If you think that makes me hateful, unsaved, that is your judgement of me which is your responsibility not mine.
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How is everybody dealing with the Coronavirus Pandemic?
I plan to order my next order of food from Walmart, delivered, that way I am dealing with One Person not a whole store of people.
Everything that comes in a box, will debox it, and immediately put the box outside in the TRASH, and put what came out of the BOX, it into something else. Plastic or Glass containers, I will wipe them down with Clorox Wipes. Maybe turn my Frig down a little bit, as maybe the low temps will help kill the Virus. And Put EVERYTHING in the Freezer, that I CAN. I do have a small freezer down stairs, will see if it still RUNS. If it does, will order a bunch of frozen TV dinners.
I plan to order my next order of food from Walmart, delivered, that way I am dealing with One Person not a whole store of people.
Everything that comes in a box, will debox it, and immediately put the box outside in the TRASH, and put what came out of the BOX, it into something else. Plastic or Glass containers, I will wipe them down with Clorox Wipes. Maybe turn my Frig down a little bit, as maybe the low temps will help kill the Virus. And Put EVERYTHING in the Freezer, that I CAN. I do have a small freezer down stairs, will see if it still RUNS. If it does, will order a bunch of frozen TV dinners.
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No one is saying to do that.
Not hating and ridiculing those who don't agree with your baby milk doctrine does not mean you are in false union with what you consider to be lies.
That's all the Bible is asking you to do: Grow up and stop dividing in hatred and contempt and backbiting over baby milk doctrines.
You do know that's a baby milk elementary truth of the Word, don't you? (Hebrews 5:12, 6:1-2).
But that is what you and so many others in the church are so adamantly focused on and erroneously think is the meat of the word.
You need to grow up and eat the meat of the Word; the teachings of living righteously in a discerning of good and evil.
You're living on milk, not solid food. You are still a baby.
Don't hate me for saying it. I'm just saying what the Bible says and which anyone with eyes to see can confirm and see for themselves in the pages of the Bible.
And what do you mean only one truth?
There are lots of truths in the Bible.
The problem is you and a lot of other people don't know the one's that matter.
You show that by how you behave.
That's fine if you want to move 'believing' over to the side of works in Paul's letter to the Romans.
Just do it without your dogmatic, immature hating and backbiting.
Know and live what really matters!
Your backbiting is the foundation upon which I base my judgment that I should consider you an immature believer, and at the worst not saved to begin with. If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with the Bible from where that right to discernment comes from. Like I say, it's as if you people don't even know what the Bible says about this.
Not hating and ridiculing those who don't agree with your baby milk doctrine does not mean you are in false union with what you consider to be lies.
That's all the Bible is asking you to do: Grow up and stop dividing in hatred and contempt and backbiting over baby milk doctrines.
You do know that's a baby milk elementary truth of the Word, don't you? (Hebrews 5:12, 6:1-2).
But that is what you and so many others in the church are so adamantly focused on and erroneously think is the meat of the word.
You need to grow up and eat the meat of the Word; the teachings of living righteously in a discerning of good and evil.
You're living on milk, not solid food. You are still a baby.
Don't hate me for saying it. I'm just saying what the Bible says and which anyone with eyes to see can confirm and see for themselves in the pages of the Bible.
And what do you mean only one truth?
There are lots of truths in the Bible.
The problem is you and a lot of other people don't know the one's that matter.
You show that by how you behave.
That's fine if you want to move 'believing' over to the side of works in Paul's letter to the Romans.
Just do it without your dogmatic, immature hating and backbiting.
Know and live what really matters!
Your backbiting is the foundation upon which I base my judgment that I should consider you an immature believer, and at the worst not saved to begin with. If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with the Bible from where that right to discernment comes from. Like I say, it's as if you people don't even know what the Bible says about this.
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Correctness of sound words and doctrine leads to maturity. You’ve shown neither.
1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
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Okay this is kinda funny actually... just sayin
Funny that when I tried to engage you with scripture you ignored time and time again, I made it very clear that eternal life is not temporal but outside of time which means it is a done deal... nothing in time can make it different..... and yet you did not respond.
However, you seem to be doing really well now that it is all ad hominen
Take note it does not state anywhere "He somewhat saved us" or "He somewhat justified" or that "He somewhat give eternal life"
John 10:27-29
"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
Romans 8:30
and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
Titus 3:5
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
Romans 11:29
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
Anyway I am done... we have all tried.
Funny that when I tried to engage you with scripture you ignored time and time again, I made it very clear that eternal life is not temporal but outside of time which means it is a done deal... nothing in time can make it different..... and yet you did not respond.
However, you seem to be doing really well now that it is all ad hominen
Take note it does not state anywhere "He somewhat saved us" or "He somewhat justified" or that "He somewhat give eternal life"
John 10:27-29
"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
Romans 8:30
and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
Titus 3:5
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
Romans 11:29
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
Anyway I am done... we have all tried.
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