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This is my answer: Matthew 12:31 New King James Version (NKJV) The Unpardonable Sin 31 “Therefore I say to you, EVERY sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Jesus' Blood removes ALL sin from the born again believer.
It’s a two way street. I’ve heard people on the NOSAS side say that OSAS is of the devil and accuse OSAS believers of promoting a license to sin and being blinded by the god of this world and being ignorant and stubborn and not understanding the depth of wickedness they dwell in.
While you may not cast it as such, the manner that OSAS is presented paints the picture that obedience is not required. And like many doctrine of men verses aplenty are brought out as proof texts but actual discussion of the Scripture is scant. It's shotgun theology, and what you're presenting here goes deeper than a simple declaration of security. There are far too many threads in your post for me to pull on any one, but it's ringing of typical reformed distortion of God's justice into a farce.
You are spreading a LIE, about OSAS TRUE FAITH. We Teach OBEDIENCE, as BEING PART OF AGAPE LOVE. It is not part of SALVATION. That Obedience is something that happens AFTER WE ARE SAVED. SALVATION HAPPENS before the beginning of time, as GOD's OMNISCIENCE is even includes knowledge that KNOWS EVERY DECISION YOU WILL MAKE IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, therefore HE WROTE OUR NAMES in the BOOK OF LIFE Before the Foundation of the Earth. HE gave the free gift to us Spiritually before the Beginning of Time, and the WE receive IT in our Human Spirit the very moment we FIRST GENUINELY BELIEVE, Trusting HIM TOTALLY AS LORD, and it is when we were first Born Again Spiritually. AND INSTANTLY OUR NEW BORN HUMAN SPIRIT HAS ETERNAL LIFE. SALVATION ONLY APPLIES TO OUR HUMAN SPIRIT. SANCTIFICATION is a SEPARATE EVENT, and IT APPLIES TO OUR BODY separate from SALVATION. It is a Process where the AGAPE LOVE, that GOD POURED INTO the OUR HUMAN SPIRIT, Rom. 5:5; and it WILL come out of us in our DEEDS, of Agape LOVING GOD, and Others. OBEDIENCE is Part of AGAPE LOVE, and it will influence our SANCTIFICATION.
2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.
We believe that verse LITERALLY.
So now you should see that LIE, you have been spreading is NOTHING BUT A LIE!
What does GOD THINK of People Who Spread LIES ? ? ? IT IS BAD FRUIT, and IS NOT FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT, listed in GAL. 5:22-23.
And I doubt if you have ever TRULY Been Born Again. JESUS SAID, "By their FRUIT YOU SHALL KNOW THEM."
Your confusion of SOUND DOCTRINE, seems to verify that this verse applies to you:
1 Corinthians 2:12-14 (NIV)
12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Dude, you are a colossal piece of work. You have been REPEATEDLY attacking me personally as a coward - do you know how insulting that is to a 6', 255 lb. 100% red blood American MALE and Veteran of a Foreign War?
PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE PROHIBITED.
The reason I didn't report you is that when people act like you, I just figure the best thing to do is pray that God opens their eyes to their unChristlikeness, not go running to the mods to ban them like some Special Snowflake tree hugging lefist.