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John146 said:
Nope. I’ve given over that right to God’s preservation of His word.
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You were your own final authority when you decided the KJV out of all the translations was the only preserved Word of God. Just as you say I am my own final authority when I discern the matter the way I do.
 
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Notice how twice I asked John about the decades Isreal could not give sacrifice and burnt offering, and how this fit into his doctrine, and he has not answered. and he wants to continually go to a hypothetical?

That should tell you all you need to know
 
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John146 said:
Let’s take a look at the address.

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

Can you show me in Scripture where the term “twelve tribes “ means something other than the nation of Israel as a whole? I can post every usage of the term if you want me too. Every usage refers to the entire nation of Israel, never, never, never a called out group from that nation.
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Easy believism, I believe in Jesus, just like the demons do. He did live, And he did die, and he even rose. But I have no faith in him, PROVEN by the fact i have not done ONE work, There faith is DEAD, No living, Has no power to save or to change their lives.

If you think they were saved, Then you have SERIOUS issues
 
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The sacrifices were not the source of God’s frustration, it was the people’s continuance in evil doings after offering sacrificing.
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Yes, they defiled their offerings by how they lived.
It made their offerings detestable in God's eyes.
David talks about offerings being pleasing to God after you first make the offering of a broken and contrite heart (Psalm 51:17-19).

Jesus talks about the same thing in Matthew 5:23-24.
 
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Judges1318 said:
You were your own final authority when you decided the KJV out of all the translations was the only preserved Word of God. Just as you say I am my own final authority when I discern the matter the way I do.
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It’s obvious you have not studied the issue and seen the errors, the many contradictions in the new versions.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Easy believism, I believe in Jesus, just like the demons do.
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People misquote this verse all the time. The devils believe that there is one God. Period. They have not trusted in the d,b,r. Many lost people believe in one God.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Easy believism, I believe in Jesus, just like the demons do. He did live, And he did die, and he even rose. But I have no faith in him, PROVEN by the fact i have not done ONE work, There faith is DEAD, No living, Has no power to save or to change their lives.

If you think they were saved, Then you have SERIOUS issues
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See 1 Corinthians 3. No works but he himself has been saved. No works=no rewards.

What about the term, twelve tribes?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Notice how twice I asked John about the decades Isreal could not give sacrifice and burnt offering, and how this fit into his doctrine, and he has not answered. and he wants to continually go to a hypothetical?

That should tell you all you need to know
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repost again

He is still ignoring the facts. And until he answers these questions. I will no longer respond to his questions..
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
repost again

He is still ignoring the facts. And until he answers these questions. I will no longer respond to his questions..
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Is not Daniel’s life a prophecy of future deliverance in Revelation during times of Jacob’s trouble? Daniel pictures a saint who will not bow to the image of the kingdom in power. Daniel endured this time and was delivered.
 
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John146 said:
It’s obvious you have not studied the issue and seen the errors, the many contradictions in the new versions.
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When I went from the NIV to the KJV in my first year in the faith I was on your side of the fence having studied the issues of the texts. But I have to admit that in some difficult passages here and there in the KJV I have gotten clearer understanding in comparing with other translations. I had to be honest with myself and so I had to leave off being a KJV-only zealot.

The KJV is still my preferred version and would recommend it, but I wouldn’t discourage the use of other translations when needed for clarification in some circumstances.

I think you become the final authority when you ignore ALL translations of the Bible.

All the verses that are missing in the new versions are in the KJV and I’m thankful that the KJV has not eliminated them.
 
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Micaiah-imla said:
I think you become the final authority when you ignore ALL translations of the Bible.
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This is exactly how you become your own final authority. When comparing the different versions and then you decide which one is best. Did God ever mean for man to have many different versions of His word, containing different words and different truths? This creates doubt and confusion. The devil is the one who wants to create doubt and confusion.
 
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John146 said:
People misquote this verse all the time. The devils believe that there is one God. Period. They have not trusted in the d,b,r. Many lost people believe in one God.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
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^ there are many people who believe in one God, but have NOT accepted Christ as Lord and Savior.

they are lost.
believe in Jesus= saved.

do not believe in Christ= lost.
 
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Your incessant twist and following deceitful accusatory lie really proves who leads you pal....and God is not the one leading you! No one here promotes your straw man dog crap argument!
Judges1318 said:
Any teaching that says grace makes it so we can use our freedom in Christ to indulge the flesh is making grace a license to sin.

13You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh a ; rather, serve one another humbly in love." - Galatians 5:13

The concept of grace is not that it gives us the freedom to sin, as the new osas teaches, but rather that grace makes it so we can, and should, resist the flesh and love others in obedience to God instead.
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eternally-gratefull

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John146 said:
I guess this twelve tribes thing is throwing you for a loop.
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I guess the fact no sacrifice things is throwing you for a loop. Because you refuse to (actually can't) answer
 
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