Not By Works

[EleventhHour]

Because his false security is sinking on the sand , it cannot stand because there is no truth in it...
...xox...

True ... our security is FULLY vested in Christ .... others cannot take "self" out of the picture .. and Jesus makes it clear when we come

to Him for salvation there is NO "self" ...

I think some people have a "Jesus and Me Syndrome"

When people harp on "sin" it is painfully obvious, their eyes have the wrong direction.... and they do not understand what Jesus has done

as Saviour and because they do not understand they have the audacity to try to incriminate others of sin.

 

[Ruby123]

so you feel sorry for yoursef?

Aww. ain't that sweet

Ah I think it is LordsHandmaid?? back.

 

[CherieR]

don't forget sis. Faith is just a bad word as fool is to some people..

Faith I believe often involves letting go of some form of control. Faith involves trusting another.

By going to the dentist and letting my teeth get worked on, I demonstrate a level of faith yet I could still tense up instead of relax. Yet when I relaxed more it was better( though I could have been still been a bit tense). Thankfully the dentist I had was reassuring so that helped.

 

[EleventhHour]

Ah I think it is LordsHandmaid?? back.

I was thinking that is the other possibility.
But some things do not fit. Time will tell.

 

[walknlight]

He didn't take them back to Egypt.

He did what he did in unbelief. Then tried to blame it on the people.....

What part do you not understand?

 

[EleventhHour]

Ah I think it is LordsHandmaid?? back.

If it is her I am taking out my "Queen Harlot" picture and adding it to my signature that @blue_ladybug made for me.

 

[CharliRenee]

Our Lord and Savior, the root of all good fruit wants our invested energy in Him, not in ensuring good fruits are produced. He will see to that. His grace abounds so that we are sufficient in all things, in all ways, so that we can abound in good deeds.

2 Cor 9:8

Lord, God Almighty. Your grace is always sufficient and I pray You continue to help us keep our eyes on You and Your abundant goodness that produces the fruit!!!

 

[EleventhHour]

He did what he did in unbelief. Then tried to blame it on the people.....

What part do you not understand?

Umm the better part ...

 

[Judges1318]

On the one hand it is so" powerful in salvation" by faith and then you incriminate "this faith" by stating it is unable to bring people to maturity?

In your doctrine. Not mine.

 

[Ruby123]

Its gone a bit quiet here. Just past midnight and I dont seem to be able to sleep. Perhaps too much caffeine.

 

[VCO]

And again!

Does that mean that You and Judge1318, are in the SAME SINKING SHIP ? ? ?

 

[Judges1318]

What part do you not understand?

The part you added.

 

[EleventhHour]

I'm not done looking through the posts but did you ever address this?

"14We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end." - Hebrews 3:14

Hebrews is a book written to Christians exhorting them to remain Christians.
Your theories about it not being about spiritual salvation come woefully short in view of the plain words right in Hebrews.

It is not exhorting them to remain Christians... this is why you have so much difficulty understanding scripture but that aside...

Very simply, once again this is not referring to justification but our sanctification and spiritual reward.

 

[EleventhHour]

In your doctrine. Not mine.

That is no one's doctrine.... you misrepresent (create straw men) that is dishonest.

 

[EleventhHour]

Does that mean that You and Judge1318, are in the SAME SINKING SHIP ? ? ?

It would seem so!

 

[cv5]

He did what he did in unbelief. Then tried to blame it on the people.....

What part do you not understand?

Unbelief and its offspring disobedience!

 

[EleventhHour]

Unbelief and its offspring disobedience!

But a believer is justified and that does not change.

 

[cv5]

But a believer is justified and that does not change.

What is your opinion of Hebrews 6 and Hebrews 10?

 

[EleventhHour]

What is your opinion of Hebrews 6 and Hebrews 10?

First never loss of justified status in view.
Believers in view by the author.

Hebrews 6 - A focus on repentance being a one time event, which is not repeated like the animal sacrifices. The Hebrews thinking that they needed to be born again and again when they sinned instead of relying on the one sufficient sacrifice of Christ Jesus.

Hebrews 10 - Once again clarifying the all sufficient work of Jesus even for willful sin ( the new and living way) which was not covered by the animal sacrifice for sin. The author bringing assurance and yet reminding them there are temporal consequences for sin and the damage it does to the soul.

 

[BillG]

When Jesus talks about 'rest for the weary' he's talking about being released from the taskmaster of sin.

how and why do you come to that conclusion?

I assume you are taking about

Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”