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EleventhHour

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DorothyMae said:
Nonsense. The leader cannot be responsible for how his followers twist what he says.
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That is nonsense... false teachers propagate more false teachers.

Like people who deny the grace of God and salvation by faith alone!
 
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Beware of false teachers who teach you the opposite of what the fruits of the Spirit mean.

They twist it and turn it...to fit in with their false doctrine......
 
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jackrosie said:
Beware of false teachers who teach you the opposite of what the fruits of the Spirit mean.

They twist it and turn it...to fit in with their false doctrine......
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Better to be aware who the false teachers are like Jesus told His disciples.
 
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A Tree and it’s Fruit.
Mathew 7:15

Watch out for false prophets.
They come to you in sheep’s clothing,but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
BY THEIR FRUIT YOU WILL RECOGNISE THEM.
 
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DorothyMae

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jackrosie said:
A Tree and it’s Fruit.
Mathew 7:15

Watch out for false prophets.
They come to you in sheep’s clothing,but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
BY THEIR FRUIT YOU WILL RECOGNISE THEM.
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Fruit is the character of the speaker, not what followers do or are. That was the problem of the pharisees. Good teaching but bad character. Jesus called them snakes, not liars.

He never judged them by their followers.
 
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DorothyMae said:
Fruit is the character of the speaker, not what followers do or are. That was the problem of the pharisees. Good teaching but bad character. Jesus called them snakes, not liars.
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Amen....when I went to church..the Lords fruit of character comes out of my Pastor mouth.
One of the most humble men I have ever met.....the Lord speaks to me through him....
 
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Magenta said:
I think many err to think they know the designs God has on another, or in failing to comprehend the fact that they do not see all of another person's life, in particular places where fruit may be more obvious.
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The point is the fruit you do see. With time the character is revealed. It’s not that difficult. Even unbelievers recognize the difference between say, trustworthy and untrustworthy men.
 
jackrosie

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DorothyMae said:
The point is the fruit you do see. With time the character is revealed. It’s not that difficult. Even unbelievers recognize the difference between say, trustworthy and untrustworthy men.
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I agree..you can’t fake the fruit of the spirit....maybe for a short period.....but the real person will always be revealed

That is why I doubt some.....because they bear no fruit what ever....just scripture.
Of course scripture is the word.......
But the “HEART” is where God is....so where is the fruit from some believers?..after yrs and yrs of supposedly walking with him?
 
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jackrosie said:
I agree..you can’t fake the fruit of the spirit....maybe for a short period.....but the real person will always be revealed

That is why I doubt some.....because they bear no fruit what ever....just scripture.
Of course scripture is the word.......
But the “HEART” is where God is....so where is the fruit from some believers?
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You don't even know what fruit is.....You, like her, think because we rake her and a few others over the coals because of the false dogma she embraces and peddles that WE bear no fruit or are not saved.....it is sickening to be frank....and you are coddling one of the most deceptive people I have seen on this site, one that skews the truth, skews what we say, accuses us of the same crap that the lost men of Paul's day accused him of...and you may have me on ignore, but every one else will see it....and many are discussing it behind the scenes!
 
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DorothyMae

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jackrosie said:
I agree..you can’t fake the fruit of the spirit....maybe for a short period.....but the real person will always be revealed

That is why I doubt some.....because they bear no fruit what ever....just scripture.
Of course scripture is the word.......
But the “HEART” is where God is....so where is the fruit from some believers?..after yrs and yrs of supposedly walking with him?
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I guess I don’t judge them except to note that they are at best immature and so need to be treated as small children in the faith. Not much required in terms of behavior and especially understanding. They just don’t know much. It’s OK unless they try to teach.
 
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dcontroversal said:
You don't even know what fruit is.....You, like her, think because we rake her and a few others over the coals because of the false dogma she embraces and peddles that WE bear no fruit or are not saved.....it is sickening to be frank....and you are coddling one of the most deceptive people I have seen on this site, one that skews the truth, skews what we say, accuses us of the same crap that the lost men of Paul's day accused him of...and you may have me on ignore, but every one else will see it....and many are discussing it behind the scenes!
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The scribes and Pharisees discussed Jesus “behind the scenes” too. The Lord took note of their words too. “Be careful what you utter in your private chambers.”
 
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DorothyMae said:
I guess I don’t judge them except to note that they are at best immature and so need to be treated as small children in the faith. Not much required in terms of behavior and especially understanding. They just don’t know much. It’s OK unless they try to teach.
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You should be a comedian.....serious....you so remind me of a previously banned member....same attitude, demeanor, similar Catholic dogma, no understanding of scripture and always boasting of yourself.......sickening!
 
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