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Since you think I don’t know much I don’t see how what I know will mean much.
Something I agree with...

a. You don't know much
b. What you think you know means nothing

Until you actually humble yourself, trust Jesus biblically and lose the pride, you will continue to walk with blinders on!
 

stonesoffire

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WHERE in the scripture does it say “only a born again will see the kingdom of God?” I have asked you this countless times and you’ve refused to answer. If God showed you this why do refuse to show us where????

John 3 is close but does not say that.

JR, if you claim God showed you something in scripture that no one in the whole world says is there, you are elevating your personal experience above scripture.

The scripture says Jesus lost one, Judas. Jesus also says many will fall away from the faith.

This is why I keep asking for you to supply scripture and you have refused each time.
Judas, Jesus said, was the son of perdition. I don’t fully understand yet what all this entailed.

But, you use the scripture “many will fall away” Over and over in your postings. So let’s look at it.

This starts out with His disciples asking for a sign of the end of the age.

Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?


Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.


Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.


I am Christ....is this saying I am the One who will save or I am anointed?

I would think that the body of Christ would reject anyone who states they are the Messiah as a nutcase. Am thinking of one that has a past, known life on earth. Now if an evil one would inhabit a body and declare themselves Messiah, we have Holy Spirit for discernment.

the scriptures following paint the picture IMO, of our present time period.

Many may fall from a church life when pressed by circumstances. But, the body of Christ knows their final destination and the Lord being faithful gives us peace.

We have had televised and news reporting of Christians being beheaded in the close past. An example of the faithfulness of God for His children’s tormented life. Those beheadings were horrific. But, there have been worse all down through time. He holds us in our times of discomfort even in dental experiences so I’ve found.

Just walk with Him daily and cast cares on Him now. He will sustain us in those times when needed.

positivity Dottie is faith or I should say faith is positive. The promises are positive, yes and amen.
 
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I will as soon as you show me the passage that says my future sins were forgiven when I first believed.
Do you understand paid in full.....?

Obviously not.......!

How many sins are found under the following scripture! And explain to me the use of the definite article "the"

And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not only for ours, but also for those of the whole world.
 
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Conclusion: @Micaiah-imla can exegete scripture without error and therefore would be the a most superior expositor
This is bizarre.

I simply obey the word. How does that make me special?

If you need an expositor you probably do not obey the scriptures as you should. And constantly want some other man to explain to you what the burden of the Lord is for you.

Jeremiah 23:35-36
[35] Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the Lord answered? and, What hath the Lord spoken? [36] And the burden of the Lord shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God.
 

stonesoffire

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Why can’t you supply scripture for this, for one? Two, how come one doesn’t see a love for Christ here or in the lives of all who claim they are? If they loved Christ whom they haven’t seen, they’d love all who are his at the very least. This is not demonstrated here.
I supply much more scripture than you ever do Dot. Plus, when you try to tear down the faith of Gods child, how is this love? You fool yourself thinking you are above us all in some way. Superior intellect or something. It’s not head knowledge that’s acceptable but childlike faith. I believe what you tell me daddy.

Our all sufficiency is in Him.

2Co 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

Will you just accept what is written as truth?
 

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The Bible says that any believer who willfully sins, with knowledge of God’s word, despises his word and reproaches God himself; that soul shall be utterly cut off and shall suffer the same fiery indignation that the adversaries shall face in the day of judgment.

Let us therefore fear, lest a promise being left us of entering into his rest any of you should seem to come short of it (Hebrews 4:1).


Show me the VERSE that says the SIN NATURE had been obliterated out of the flesh?

You are a SINNER, but you do not count your sin, you just rationalized it away and IGNORE IT.

I showed you, that anyone who breaks the SPEED LIMIT by one mile per hour, SINS.



Now you want to TRY TO JUSTIFY that SIN by saying it was UNINTENTIONAL, you cannot, you think if you GOT AWAY WITH IT,
IT IS NOT SIN? GUESS AGAIN:

Romans 13:4 (HCSB)
4 For government is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, because it does not carry the sword for no reason. For government is God’s servant, an avenger that brings wrath on the one who does wrong.

James 4:17 (NIV)
17 Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn't do it, sins.

Try to make that logic square with this verse.

Your sin nature, has showed you are as great a sinner as the rest of us.

James 2:10 (NIV)
10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

🕆

1 Peter 2:13-17 (NKJV)
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man
for the Lord's sake
, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for
the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put
to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as
bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.
{That would be President Donald Trump, if you are an American.}


Thank God we have SAVIOUR, or None of us would make it to heaven.

I hope and pray, this humbled you, and you came to full repentence.
 
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Do you understand paid in full.....?
Dc, you know full well that “paid in full” appears no where in scripture.

How many sins are found under the following scripture! And explain to me the use of the definite article "the"

And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not only for ours, but also for those of the whole world.
1 John 2:2
[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

The whole world. Not the whole world’s future sins after whosoever in it believes the gospel.
 
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OSAS’ers should take heed to scriptures below and meditate upon them.

It’s the word of God.


Psalm 4:4
[4] Stand in awe, and do not sin

Psalm 119:11
[11] Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

Luke 11:36
[36] If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.

Philippians 1:29
[29] For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake [because]

1 Peter 4:1
[1] ...he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin
Salvation losers should pay attention to...

We are KEPT by the power of GOD through FAITH <--THE Faith JESUS begins, finishes and COMPLETES in us....

I WILL LOSE NOTHING, but raise it up the last day

I GIVE unto the ETERNAL LIFE

NOTHING shall separate us from the LOVE OF CHRIST

where sin ABOUNDS....grace abounds the more

You salvation and Jesus devaluers will find out when you are begging saying LORD LORD have we not done blah, blah, blah in your name.......
 
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Dc, you know full well that “paid in full” appears no where in scripture.



1 John 2:2
[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

The whole world. Not the whole world’s future sins after whosoever in it believes the gospel.
Sure it does genius.....go study IT IS FINISHED and then gain biblical knowledge!
 
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You know, this is hard for me to accept. But, I think now that you are right. Am very sad about this.
Even though hard, there is no other answer.....SALVATION is the beginning point of grasping truth on a spiritual level......a person NOT born from above will never be able to grasp even simple spiritual truths......tragic but true nonetheless!
 
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Even though hard, there is no other answer.....SALVATION is the beginning point of grasping truth on a spiritual level......a person NOT born from above will never be able to grasp even simple spiritual truths......tragic but true nonetheless!


Amen!....Amen!....Amen!
 
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Dc, you know full well that “paid in full” appears no where in scripture.



1 John 2:2
[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

The whole world. Not the whole world’s future sins after whosoever in it believes the gospel.
You guys must really be dense or obstinate on purpose......Jesus PAID MY SIN debt almost 2000 years ago.....and when I TRUSTED him BIBLICALLY by faith....HE IMPUTED HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS to my ACCOUNT and I have been LEGALLY JUSTIFIED in Heaven's Court pal....
 
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Sorry,i disagree..a born again has that security..it’s biblical and no I’m not posting scripture on it again...I already have done that many times.

I too stand firm on the word of God...eternal security I have.
The one you are addressing.....another street organ player piping Cainologists 5th concerto
 
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One should not overlook that people claim to achieve sinlessness through the working of the Holy Spirit of God in their lives.

Still, it is 100% doubtful that any achieve such a state this side of the resurrection of all at the end of this age.
John covered this quite well....and it is hilarious how they use a particular pointed statement by Christ that was directed at a woman cought in a particular act as a blanket statement concerning ANY and all sin......NO ONE is without SIN......YES we can keep from committing adultry or maybe killing someone or stealing etc....BUT NO ONE IS SINLESS.......and it is idiotic and foolish to claim such a state and or deny Christ PAID for ALL SIN past, present and future!