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I could care less of ...opinion. I rely on the Word...God's .......word reflected in the KJV 1611 edition.
Witness the fact that we ...all of a sudden...since 1960's .....have several new bible editions. Why?
Notice all the new editions have a slanted revision watering down God's word...and His intent. They say for clarity...LOL...the Bible 1611 edition, is clear enough that a 10 year old can understand what he must do to be born again and receive eternal salvation after being saved by God's judgement. Who needs more.
How about making money...huh?...another reason. There are several new editions in production now.
Remember, the Bible says...: in the end times there will be great (not just deceptions)...great deceptions.
Great, clearly reflects being miss led and lost. After all..being miss led and loose eternal damnation is the worst thing that could happen to a earthly being.
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I was going to quote Peter from Acts 15 earlier... Now is as good a time as any 
5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up
and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”
6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion,
Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made
a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel
and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that He accepted them by giving the
Holy Spirit to them, just as He did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them,
for He purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting
on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?
11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up
and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”
6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion,
Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made
a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel
and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that He accepted them by giving the
Holy Spirit to them, just as He did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them,
for He purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting
on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?
11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
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Amen. And if some people were preprogrammed to go to Heaven, they would not need to plead the Blood either. There are still a few Calvinist here. They did not all die off in the 80's. Only by faith in the sin-cleansing Blood of Jesus can a man be saved, and the call goes out to all.
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It is a Paraphrase of 5 or 6 Earlier English BIBLES, they admitted it in the 1611 Origininal Preface. They were contacted by King James to update the English Language to the English he Spoke. In questionable verses, they used the Septuagint and the Latin Bible, to verify it, but they did not go to the original Language Versions. That is a Paraphase and not an original Language TRANLATION at Best.
Here is an excerpt:
{ That makes it a PARAPHRASE and not an actual Translation from the original languages. }
Here is an excerpt:
The Translators To The Reader
Zeale to promote the common good, whether it be by devising any thing our selves, or revising that which hath bene laboured by others, . . .
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But how shall men meditate in that, which they cannot understand? How shall they understand that which is kept close in an unknowen tongue? . . . so lest the Church be driven to the like exigent, it is necessary to have translations in a readinesse. . .
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Yet it seemed good to the holy Ghost and to them, to take that which they found, (the same being for the greatest part true and sufficient) rather then by making a new, in that new world and greene age of the Church, to expose themselves to many exceptions and cavillations, as though they made a Translation to serve their owne turne, and therefore bearing witnesse to themselves, their witnesse not to be regarded. This may be supposed to bee some cause, why the Translation of the Seventie was allowed to passe for currant. . . . he holdeth the Authours thereof not onely for Interpreters, but also for Prophets in some respect: and Justinian the Emperour enjoyning the Jewes his subjects to use specially the Translation of the Seventie, rendreth this reason thereof, because they were as it were enlighted with propheticall grace. . . .
. . . This is the translation of the Seventy Interpreters, com- monly so called, which prepared the way for our Saviour among the Gen- tiles by written ERRORS preaching . . . It is certain, that that Translation was not so sound and so perfect, but it needed in many places correction; . . . {KNOWN in the Septuagint} . . . (and Saint Jerome affirmeth as much) that the Seventie were Interpreters, they were not Prophets; they did many things well, as learned men; but yet as men they stumbled and fell, one while through oversight, another while through ignorance, yea, sometimes they may be noted to adde to the Originall, and sometimes to take from it; which made the Apostles to leave them many times, when they left the Hebrew, and to deliver the sence thereof according to the trueth of the word, as the spirit gave them utterance. This may suffice touching the Greeke Translations of the old Testament. . . .
. . . But now the Latin Translations were too many to be all good, for they were infinite (Latini Interprets nullo modo numerari possunt, saith S. Augustine.) [S. Augustin. de doctr. Christ. lib 2 cap II]. Again they were not out of the Hebrew fountain (we speak of the Latin Translations of the Old Testament) but out of the Greek stream, therefore the Greek being not altogether clear, the Latin derived from it must needs be muddy. . . .
There were also within a few hundreth yeeres after CHRIST, translations many into the Latine tongue: for this tongue also was very fit to convey the Law and the Gospel by, because in those times very many Countreys of the West, yea of the South, East and North, spake or understood Latine, being made Provinces to the Romanes. But now the Latine Translations were too many to be all good, . . . Now the Church of Rome . . . Yea, so unwilling they are to communicate the Scriptures to the peoples understanding in any sort, that they are not ashamed to confesse, that wee forced them to translate it into English against their wills. . . .
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And to the same effect say wee, that we are so farre off from condemning any of their labours that traveiled before us in this kinde, either in this land or beyond sea, either in King Henries time, or King Edwards (if there were any translation, or correction of a translation in his time) or Queene Elizabeths of ever-renoumed memorie, that we acknowledge them to have beene raised up of God, for the building and furnishing of his Church, and that they deserve to be had of us and of posteritie in everlasting remembrance. . . . . . . . . . but let us rather bless God from the ground of our heart, for working this religious care in him, to have the translations of the Bible maturely con- sidered of and examined.
. . . the same will shine as gold more brightly, being rubbed and polished; also, if anything be halting, or superfluous, or not so agreeable to the original, the same may be corrected, and the truth set in place. {KNOWN ERRORS} . . .
Yet for all that, as nothing is begun and perfited at the same time, and the later thoughts are thought to be the wiser: so, if we building upon their foundation that went before us, and being holpen by their labours, doe endevour to make that better which they left so good; no man, we are sure, hath cause to mislike us; they, we persuade our selves, if they were alive, would thanke us. . . .
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to have the translations of the Bible maturely considered of and examined. For by this meanes it commeth to passe, that whatsoever is sound alreadie (and all is sound for substance, in one or other of our editions, and the worst of ours farre better then their autentike vulgar) the same will shine as gold more brightly, being rubbed and polished; also if any thing be halting, or superfluous, or not so agreeable to the originall, the same may bee corrected, and the trueth set in place. . . .
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Now to the later we answere; that wee doe not deny, nay wee affirme and avow, that the very meanest {poorest} translation of the Bible in English, set foorth by men of our profession (for wee have seene none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God. . . .
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Yet before we end, we must answere a third cavill and objection of theirs against us, for altering and amending our Taanslations [sic] so oft; wherein truely they deale hardly, and strangely with us. {The very same thing you do to MODERN Translations.} For to whom ever was it imputed for a fault (by such as were wise) to goe over that which hee had done, and to amend it where he saw cause? . . .
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But the difference that appeareth betweene our Translations, and our often correcting of them, is the thing that wee are specially charged with; let us see therefore whether they themselves bee without fault this way, (if it be to be counted a fault, to correct) and whether they bee fit men to throw stones at us: But it is high time to leave them, and to shew in briefe what wee proposed to our selves, and what course we held in this our perusall and survay of the Bible. Truly (good Christian Reader) wee never thought from the beginning, that we should neede to make a new Translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one, (for then the imputation of Sixtus had bene true in some sort, that our people had bene fed with gall of Dragons in stead of wine, with whey in stead of milke, but to make a good one better, or out of many good ones, one principall good one, not justly to be excepted against; that hath bene our indeavour, that our marke. . . .
{ That makes it a PARAPHRASE and not an actual Translation from the original languages. }
Oh, so Jesus had an advantage over us?
If that were true, Satan would have an irrefutable accusation against God as totally unjust for condemning humanity for failing to do that which only Jesus was equipped to: keep the commandments.
Jesus had NO advantage over you or me. His daily prayer life, study life, and purposed heart to do the Father’s will got Him thorough and can get us through. No need for a OSAS License to Sin.
If that were true, Satan would have an irrefutable accusation against God as totally unjust for condemning humanity for failing to do that which only Jesus was equipped to: keep the commandments.
Jesus had NO advantage over you or me. His daily prayer life, study life, and purposed heart to do the Father’s will got Him thorough and can get us through. No need for a OSAS License to Sin.
Laughable. Were you born of a virgin, sired by the Holy Spirit of God? Was the universe created by you, making you its master that you can calm storms, walk on water, heal lepers, turn water into wine, give sight to the blind etc etc etc??? Okay, so now you are denying the Deity of Jesus Christ also? As well as what the apostles agreed upon regarding keeping the law. LOL. You in deep doo doo.
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Predestiny and election does not mean we do not have to hear the gospel and believe it and repent and be born again.
When we first enter the church we see written upon the lintel "whosoever will" but when we look back upon entering we see written "chosen in Christ before the world began"
We are of ourselves unable to choose or decide for Christ, God the Holy Ghost must first do a work in our hearts. I do not believe in Total Depravity.
When we first enter the church we see written upon the lintel "whosoever will" but when we look back upon entering we see written "chosen in Christ before the world began"
We are of ourselves unable to choose or decide for Christ, God the Holy Ghost must first do a work in our hearts. I do not believe in Total Depravity.
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