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This is an example of an false accusation.
1.You labeled. My beliefs " new age tolerance trend" without even knowing what they are.
2. You accused me of being "tolerant of most anything except the truth"
Read James 3 before you attempt to teach or answer for someone else when you don't even know what they believe.
1.You labeled. My beliefs " new age tolerance trend" without even knowing what they are.
2. You accused me of being "tolerant of most anything except the truth"
Read James 3 before you attempt to teach or answer for someone else when you don't even know what they believe.
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Anyway before I got distracted I was going to post these scriptures.
I challenge anyone to post scriptures talking about folks who are "sinless".
.God calls many "blameless"
You know why? Because God forgave their sins and washes them clean and taught them His ways.
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The one whose walk is blameless,
who does what is righteous,
who speaks the truth from their heart;
whose tongue utters no slander,
who does no wrong to a neighbor,
and casts no slur on others.
Psalm 15:2-3 | NIV
Do everything without grumbling or arguing, so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation. Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky as you hold firmly to the word of life.
Philippians 2:14-16a | NIV
I challenge anyone to post scriptures talking about folks who are "sinless".
.God calls many "blameless"
You know why? Because God forgave their sins and washes them clean and taught them His ways.
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The one whose walk is blameless,
who does what is righteous,
who speaks the truth from their heart;
whose tongue utters no slander,
who does no wrong to a neighbor,
and casts no slur on others.
Psalm 15:2-3 | NIV
Do everything without grumbling or arguing, so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation. Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky as you hold firmly to the word of life.
Philippians 2:14-16a | NIV
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If what you say here is true, I might as well throw in the towel cause when I sin I do it knowing I am doing it and knowing I am guilty. When I sin, my spirit hates it, but my flesh doesn't mind. Do you mean to say you have gotten to a point that your only sins are incidental and only out of casual ignorance like making a mistake writing on a chalk board or something? If this is what your saying, I am not sure I can agree with you. If you are saying this, I couldn't say the same without feeling like I am sinning for saying it.
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The Holy spirit convicts you of sin and He can make a way for you to overcome sin with maturity.
Depending on the sin it may take time and many different factors to break the chains that enslave us, but God walks with us and helps us to do this.
If we fail, we have an intercessor.
However as we walk with God we learn to fall down less often.
However I think God let's us fall when we become prideful and commit the son of judging others or thinking ourselves as better than them. I also believe not forgiving others has consequences.
Proverbs 16:18 ►
New International Version
Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.
New Living Translation
Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall.
English Standard Version
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
New American Standard Bible
Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling.
King James Bible
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Depending on the sin it may take time and many different factors to break the chains that enslave us, but God walks with us and helps us to do this.
If we fail, we have an intercessor.
However as we walk with God we learn to fall down less often.
However I think God let's us fall when we become prideful and commit the son of judging others or thinking ourselves as better than them. I also believe not forgiving others has consequences.
Proverbs 16:18 ►
New International Version
Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.
New Living Translation
Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall.
English Standard Version
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
New American Standard Bible
Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling.
King James Bible
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
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Yes, Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. He puts in us the will to do according to His good pleasure.
Yes, it could be like physical healings some times God heals us quickly and sometimes it takes longer. We have a part in this healing process with God.
No ifs about it. I'll be needing an intercessor especially named Jesus
Yes, even if we don't see it.
The consequences are usually falling into the same sin you refuse to forgive others for
In that case, I am sure glad I am the humblest person in the world, lol, just kidding.
Yes, it could be like physical healings some times God heals us quickly and sometimes it takes longer. We have a part in this healing process with God.
No ifs about it. I'll be needing an intercessor especially named Jesus
Yes, even if we don't see it.
The consequences are usually falling into the same sin you refuse to forgive others for
In that case, I am sure glad I am the humblest person in the world, lol, just kidding.
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have noticed for quite some time your tolerance of many things and many false beliefs, but you seem to have no tolerance for them that live holy and righteous, its seems to really bother you, so much so, that you will feverishly commit yourself to arguing in favor of a biblical forgone conclusion of sin, of the which is the opposite of what scripture declares..You seem to be very intolerant of righteous people, even Job....therefore you try and make him into a sinner.....God said Job feared God and hated evil....one CANNOT hate evil and still be a partaker of evil, its impossible..
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she is of the doctrine that one gets saved while still in their sin, and somehow God will clean them up later, which is TOTALLY false..The sin is put to death in repentance or it never will be, 2 Cor.7-10,11...Yes God does chastise for sins of ignorance as we grow in the Spirit, but not for willful rebellion...
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a mistake on the chalk board is not sin....so you really think God lied about Job being perfect and hating evil..Study the text and learn what hating evil means via the biblical definition...It means to not be a partaker of evil, if one is still partaking of evil then they dont really hate evil, but rather love their sin....
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Christ righteous is NEVER imputed anywhere in the text, there is not one example of the transfer of virtue anywhere in the bible...However, the truth IS, it is our faith that is imputed/reckoned to be righteous...Now, the question is; what is faith, by biblical definition?...faith is steadfast obedience to God from heart purity...
You really shouldn't be teaching others anything, because you are unlearned in the scriptures, and rebel against God's word, so much so, that you insist on twisting what He says...you are not even qualified to have an opinion..Peter said the unlearned wrestle the scriptures to their own destruction.
I do believe in imputed righteousness through faith, because the apostle John said LET NO ONE DECEIVE YOU, he that doeth righteousness is righteous
Romans 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Romans 4:9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say thatfaith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.............. (again; faith is steadfast obedience to God from heart purity)
Romans 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise,
Galatians 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Philippians 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law,(righteous through the ordinances of Moses, like the Pharisees) but that which is through the faith of Christ,(Christ is our example of faithfulness to follow after), the righteousness which is of God by faith: (Doing the right thing via the influence of the Spirit by faith, not religious activities)Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.(God said Abel was righteous by doing the what was right) many say their is none righteous, not knowing what Paul was quoting from, when he open his statement with "it is written".. he was speaking among the wicked and godless there is none good...10 ve3rses of quoting of evil doers from the OT describing the wicked, beginnign with Psalm 14-1, of the which were contrasted against the righteous in the very same chapters....look it up
Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: (their faith was established of God and Jesus Christ, not transfered, but by following after in the steps of faith)
neither sin nor righteousness is transferable, Ezek 20, but rather what is done from the heart, sin unto death, and righteousness to life...our faith is established in Jesus Christ is reighteous...faith establishes the law, Romans 3-31..the moral law is OF GOD... Hebrews 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions. (also lions many times in the text are metaphoric for the false prophets), young lions etc. found in the books of the prophets
neither sin nor righteousness is transferable, Ezek 20, but rather what is done from the heart, sin unto death, and righteousness to life...our faith is established in Jesus Christ is reighteous...faith establishes the law, Romans 3-31..the moral law is OF GOD...
You really shouldn't be teaching others anything, because you are unlearned in the scriptures, and rebel against God's word, so much so, that you insist on twisting what He says...you are not even qualified to have an opinion..Peter said the unlearned wrestle the scriptures to their own destruction.
I do believe in imputed righteousness through faith, because the apostle John said LET NO ONE DECEIVE YOU, he that doeth righteousness is righteous
Romans 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Romans 4:9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say thatfaith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.............. (again; faith is steadfast obedience to God from heart purity)
Romans 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise,
Galatians 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Philippians 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law,(righteous through the ordinances of Moses, like the Pharisees) but that which is through the faith of Christ,(Christ is our example of faithfulness to follow after), the righteousness which is of God by faith: (Doing the right thing via the influence of the Spirit by faith, not religious activities)Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.(God said Abel was righteous by doing the what was right) many say their is none righteous, not knowing what Paul was quoting from, when he open his statement with "it is written".. he was speaking among the wicked and godless there is none good...10 ve3rses of quoting of evil doers from the OT describing the wicked, beginnign with Psalm 14-1, of the which were contrasted against the righteous in the very same chapters....look it up
Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: (their faith was established of God and Jesus Christ, not transfered, but by following after in the steps of faith)
neither sin nor righteousness is transferable, Ezek 20, but rather what is done from the heart, sin unto death, and righteousness to life...our faith is established in Jesus Christ is reighteous...faith establishes the law, Romans 3-31..the moral law is OF GOD... Hebrews 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions. (also lions many times in the text are metaphoric for the false prophets), young lions etc. found in the books of the prophets
neither sin nor righteousness is transferable, Ezek 20, but rather what is done from the heart, sin unto death, and righteousness to life...our faith is established in Jesus Christ is reighteous...faith establishes the law, Romans 3-31..the moral law is OF GOD...
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Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of Godrevealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. (the faithful to God and His righteous ways are the righteous by faith) "ie" steadfast obedience from heart purity...........