not of works, but created in Christ unto good works
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No one can come to Jesus unless the Father draws Him. That sounds Calvinist, right? It’s not. It’s in the scripture. Sometimes things sound a certain way to people, that are not necessarily the case
That said, the post in question does sound Calvinist. I disagree on irresistible grace and the statement about what would have happened had David died in his sins
Does the second part mean a I believe in a losable salvation? No. I believe that God always uses means to recover a straying sheep. In this case, God used Nathan. And David’s heart had been molded and shaped by God in such a way that repentance when confronted with Gods ways and means was certain
A lot of people don’t understand this, so they talk about elect dying in rebellion, elect don’t die in rebellion. No instance of this anywhere in scripture, so improper to teach of believers dying in rebellion
That said, the post in question does sound Calvinist. I disagree on irresistible grace and the statement about what would have happened had David died in his sins
Does the second part mean a I believe in a losable salvation? No. I believe that God always uses means to recover a straying sheep. In this case, God used Nathan. And David’s heart had been molded and shaped by God in such a way that repentance when confronted with Gods ways and means was certain
A lot of people don’t understand this, so they talk about elect dying in rebellion, elect don’t die in rebellion. No instance of this anywhere in scripture, so improper to teach of believers dying in rebellion
Because it’s a progressive work of grace teaching us to deny ungodly lusts and live soberly and righteously. Were not perfect, but if the Grace of God teaches us, we are heading in the right direction. Even if for some, it is two steps forward one step back, or if we fall seven times, we keep getting up. Hebrews 3:6 I will say in advance that Heb 3:6 is a descriptive statement
Does the spirit of God take control of a person or a person still makes their own decisions, whether good or bad?
God's punishment to David, shows that David made his own decisions against God's counsel and the good works also are rewarded because of one's own decision based on God's counsel in obedience to God.
God's punishment to David, shows that David made his own decisions against God's counsel and the good works also are rewarded because of one's own decision based on God's counsel in obedience to God.
You are creating false dichotomies. The preserving grace of God does not annull human choices, but it does have an effect on them. So David sinned, and God used means to restore Him. What part of that do you disagree with?
Do you make bad choices?
Does God correct you and bring you back unto the right path when you do?
That is God preserving you
This is really fundamental to the teachings of grace
Do you make bad choices?
Does God correct you and bring you back unto the right path when you do?
That is God preserving you
This is really fundamental to the teachings of grace
David went against the counsel of God many times and He was punished. Each time, David knew very well he was going against God's counsel and each time he repented after the punishment because he knew it very well. Nathan or not, David already knew he had wronged.
And God doesn't need proxies for anything.
And God doesn't need proxies for anything.
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David planned for weeks and months to have a man killed so that he can get his wife.
You can not claim that David did not know that what he was doing was wrong until Nathan came along.
Again, the bad decisions are our choices and so are the good decisions aka good works. Don't get me wrong, the good works are fruits of the spirit but the cause is our decision to obey God.
Rev 22: "...11Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”
You can not claim that David did not know that what he was doing was wrong until Nathan came along.
Again, the bad decisions are our choices and so are the good decisions aka good works. Don't get me wrong, the good works are fruits of the spirit but the cause is our decision to obey God.
Rev 22: "...11Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”
