Nothing new about the "new" covenant?
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Re: Gods covenants
I have studied the feasts, and they are in relation to past present, and future. It was the most interesting study I have ever done. I even wrote a short book. Here's the link, and I hope whoever reads it will enjoy it as much as I have.
Three Feasts of the Pentateuch
I have studied the feasts, and they are in relation to past present, and future. It was the most interesting study I have ever done. I even wrote a short book. Here's the link, and I hope whoever reads it will enjoy it as much as I have.
Three Feasts of the Pentateuch
Re: Gods covenants
The feast of unleavened bread is also about leaving leaven from doctrine. These were man made laws that they follow. Jesus preached of the Pharisees and Sadducees who were regarding their own laws higher then God's laws.
Matthew 6:16 "Be careful,” Jesus said to them. “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”
Mark 7:9-13 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! [SUP]10 [/SUP]For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ [SUP]11 [/SUP]But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— [SUP]12 [/SUP]then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
The feast of unleavened bread is also about leaving leaven from doctrine. These were man made laws that they follow. Jesus preached of the Pharisees and Sadducees who were regarding their own laws higher then God's laws.
Matthew 6:16 "Be careful,” Jesus said to them. “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”
Mark 7:9-13 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! [SUP]10 [/SUP]For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ [SUP]11 [/SUP]But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— [SUP]12 [/SUP]then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
Re: Gods covenants
The feast that you mention also has much to do with leaving Egypt in haste, thereby we are saved from corrupted practices that the Bible calls sin. When we are born again, we then are exhorted, through this feast, to leave our old life as fast a possible. There is no time to let the yeast ferment, causing the bread to rise. Egypt represents the ways of the world, and we can't just sit there in the midst our fleshly state. Therefore the feast of unleavened bread should be observed by all Christians in this respect. Salvation is a daily thing for us.
Deuteronomy 16:3 Thou shalt eat no leavened bread with it; seven days shalt thou eat unleavened bread therewith, even the bread of affliction; for thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt in haste: that thou mayest remember the day when thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of thy life.
The feast that you mention also has much to do with leaving Egypt in haste, thereby we are saved from corrupted practices that the Bible calls sin. When we are born again, we then are exhorted, through this feast, to leave our old life as fast a possible. There is no time to let the yeast ferment, causing the bread to rise. Egypt represents the ways of the world, and we can't just sit there in the midst our fleshly state. Therefore the feast of unleavened bread should be observed by all Christians in this respect. Salvation is a daily thing for us.
Deuteronomy 16:3 Thou shalt eat no leavened bread with it; seven days shalt thou eat unleavened bread therewith, even the bread of affliction; for thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt in haste: that thou mayest remember the day when thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of thy life.
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First of all, we see that "covenant" and "testament" have the same meaning;
i.e., a legal contract wherein the shedding of blood is its evidence.
The Greek meaning of diatheke is "arrangement, dispensation."
That is the meaning of "covenant" and "testament."
The Hebrew word is berith (close enough),
which means "covenant; league; confederacy,"
and which the Septuagint translated as diatheke in Jer 31:31.
That is the meaning of diatheke in Heb 8:7-13,
which quotes Jer 31:31.
The translation of diatheke as "testament" is peculiar to the KJV,
which does it only 40% of the time.
In the other 60%, it uses the word "covenant."
In other translations, only the word "covenant" is used for diatheke.
In Lk 22:20, Jesus uses the OT language of Jer 31:31,
which is berith, "new covenant," not new testament.
This is my initial post on the definitions of covenant, and testament
The only correction that I made on this is that diatheke can be used to REFERENCE covenant and testament, instead of using "mean the same" I should have said reference.
You keep highlighting those words, please get a dictionary and look them up.
The only correction that I made on this is that diatheke can be used to REFERENCE covenant and testament, instead of using "mean the same" I should have said reference.
You keep highlighting those words, please get a dictionary and look them up.
Re: Gods covenants
God's
rainbow covenant,
land grant covenant,
Phinehas covenant, and
Davidic covenant
were all unilateral covenants, involving nothing to be done by the recipients.
Therefore, the recipients could not break and nullify them.
And since God does not break his covenants, but fulfills them,
they have been fulfilled.
However, God's
Abrahamic covenant to be his God and the God of his descendants, and
Sinaitic covenant of Mosaic laws
were both bilateral, which required compliance by the participants,
in which non-compliance by either party broke and nullified the covenant.
The Abrahamic covenant required circumcision of the flesh and also of the heart (Ro 2:28-29),
and is inherited by those in Christ, who are the seed of Abraham (Gal 3:29).
The Sinaitic covenant required obedience to the Mosaic law (Dt 7:12),
and was broken and nullified by the people(Jer 11:1-5, 10-11, 14; Heb 8:8).
The only OT covenant still in force is the Abrahamic covenant inherited by those in Christ.
The Sinaitic covenant was nullified by the people (Jer 11:10),
and has been replaced with the new covenant of Jer 31:31 (Heb 8:6-3; Lk 22:20).
There were no Sabbath or feasts covenants.
Both were part of the Mosaic law on which the Sinaitic covenant was based.
fulfilled in Jesus Christ seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven.
God's
rainbow covenant,
land grant covenant,
Phinehas covenant, and
Davidic covenant
were all unilateral covenants, involving nothing to be done by the recipients.
Therefore, the recipients could not break and nullify them.
And since God does not break his covenants, but fulfills them,
they have been fulfilled.
However, God's
Abrahamic covenant to be his God and the God of his descendants, and
Sinaitic covenant of Mosaic laws
were both bilateral, which required compliance by the participants,
in which non-compliance by either party broke and nullified the covenant.
The Abrahamic covenant required circumcision of the flesh and also of the heart (Ro 2:28-29),
and is inherited by those in Christ, who are the seed of Abraham (Gal 3:29).
The Sinaitic covenant required obedience to the Mosaic law (Dt 7:12),
and was broken and nullified by the people(Jer 11:1-5, 10-11, 14; Heb 8:8).
The only OT covenant still in force is the Abrahamic covenant inherited by those in Christ.
The Sinaitic covenant was nullified by the people (Jer 11:10),
and has been replaced with the new covenant of Jer 31:31 (Heb 8:6-3; Lk 22:20).
There were no Sabbath or feasts covenants.
Both were part of the Mosaic law on which the Sinaitic covenant was based.
fulfilled in Jesus Christ seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven.
Re: Gods covenants
[There were no Sabbath or feasts covenants.
Both were part of the Mosaic law on which the Sinaitic covenant was based.]
no they are seperate covenents still valid, not part of the laws.
or covenent of Davids of physical man to reign on throne ?
[fulfilled in Jesus Christ seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven.]
so where was Davids physical king sitting on his throne,
between Zedekiah, the last king of Judah , and Jesus.
also Jesus has not taken over Davids physical throne,
that he will take over on his return.
[There were no Sabbath or feasts covenants.
Both were part of the Mosaic law on which the Sinaitic covenant was based.]
no they are seperate covenents still valid, not part of the laws.
or covenent of Davids of physical man to reign on throne ?
[fulfilled in Jesus Christ seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven.]
so where was Davids physical king sitting on his throne,
between Zedekiah, the last king of Judah , and Jesus.
also Jesus has not taken over Davids physical throne,
that he will take over on his return.
Why do you insist, your persistence is becoming annoying, rather than edifying. You have not said one thing to disprove what I have stated. Out of courtesy, I am replying to your ridiculous post, please, for the last time, STOP. Feel free to comment on any other persons comments on this thread; I don't want to engage in any way, type, shape or form with you.
Re: Gods covenants
As the rainbow was a sign of the covenant not to ever again destroy life by flood (Ge 9:15), and
as circumcision was the sign of the covenant with Abraham (Ge 17:11),
so the Sabbath was a sign of the Sinaitic covenant (Ex 31:16-17).
The Sinaitic covenant has been nullified by the disobedience of the people (Jer 11:10; Heb 8:8).
There is no longer any sign of the Sianaitic covenant (Sabbath),
just as there is no longer any sign of the Abrahamic covenant (circumcision
of the flesh). (Ro 2:25-29).
As the rainbow was a sign of the covenant not to ever again destroy life by flood (Ge 9:15), and
as circumcision was the sign of the covenant with Abraham (Ge 17:11),
so the Sabbath was a sign of the Sinaitic covenant (Ex 31:16-17).
The Sinaitic covenant has been nullified by the disobedience of the people (Jer 11:10; Heb 8:8).
There is no longer any sign of the Sianaitic covenant (Sabbath),
just as there is no longer any sign of the Abrahamic covenant (circumcision
of the flesh). (Ro 2:25-29).
Re: Gods covenants
In Jer 11:10 Israel broke the law. That does not mean that they can keep breaking the law. God punished them and in Jer 31:33 he will bring them back at a later time and giving them a new covenant where he will put the law in their mind and writes the law on their heart. That is the new covenant. The sin was forgiven them through christ and he now fills them with the holy spirit so they will now follow the laws. They are still required to follow the law as the Holy Spirit leads them.
Jer 11:10-19 10They have returned to the sins of their ancestors, who refused to listen to my words. They have followed other gods to serve them. Both Israel and Judah have broken the covenant I made with their ancestors. 11Therefore this is what the Lord says: ‘I will bring on them a disaster they cannot escape. Although they cry out to me, I will not listen to them.
Jer 31:31-33
31“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[SUP]d[/SUP] them,[SUP]e[/SUP] ”
declares the Lord.
33“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
The Law is not done until heaven and earth pass away. Breaking the law causes someone to be the least in heaven. I myself do not want to be least.
Matt 5:17-18 17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Heaven and Earth do not pass away until Revelation 21.
1Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[SUP]a[/SUP] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[SUP]b[/SUP] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
In Jer 11:10 Israel broke the law. That does not mean that they can keep breaking the law. God punished them and in Jer 31:33 he will bring them back at a later time and giving them a new covenant where he will put the law in their mind and writes the law on their heart. That is the new covenant. The sin was forgiven them through christ and he now fills them with the holy spirit so they will now follow the laws. They are still required to follow the law as the Holy Spirit leads them.
Jer 11:10-19 10They have returned to the sins of their ancestors, who refused to listen to my words. They have followed other gods to serve them. Both Israel and Judah have broken the covenant I made with their ancestors. 11Therefore this is what the Lord says: ‘I will bring on them a disaster they cannot escape. Although they cry out to me, I will not listen to them.
Jer 31:31-33
31“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[SUP]d[/SUP] them,[SUP]e[/SUP] ”
declares the Lord.
33“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
The Law is not done until heaven and earth pass away. Breaking the law causes someone to be the least in heaven. I myself do not want to be least.
Matt 5:17-18 17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Heaven and Earth do not pass away until Revelation 21.
1Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[SUP]a[/SUP] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[SUP]b[/SUP] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”