Nothing new about the "new" covenant?

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yes i celebrate the feast like God commands,

was wondering if anyone else does it in the proper way ?

and not on easter as we men teach us now to do.
I have been also learning the feasts and trying to celebrate them.
 

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Actually, that was Passover, the first of the eight days,
where Unleavened Bread was the last seven of the days.
They were two separate feasts, back to back.

What is the source of these distortions of the NT?
new testament command

22And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said,
Take, eat: this is my body.
23And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.

24And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine,
until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

deciples keep feast after Christs death
Acts 12:3 (KJV)

And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also.
(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

Acts 20:6 (KJV)
And we sailed away from Philippi after (the days of unleavened bread),
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.


1 Corinthians 5:7 (KJV)
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV)
Therefore let us keep the feast,
not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

passover was once a year, not anytime church wants to drink his blood.

If we keep unleavened bread we would know that easter is a lie.
people do not want to put sin out of there lives and believe a lie.

1What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

“Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day,
every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes”

“Take heed
to thyself that thou be not snared by following them [pagan
religious customs] … and that thou inquire not after their gods

Verily (my sabbaths) ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout
your generations that ye may know that I am the [Eternal] that doth sanctify you”
 
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Actually, that was Passover, the first of the eight days,
where Unleavened Bread was the last seven of the days.
They were two separate feasts, back to back.

What is the source of these distortions of the NT?
Passover is not a feast, it's the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Passover represents a sacrifice only. There are only 3 feasts that God required Israel to keep. The feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks, and the Feast of Tabernacles.

2 Chronicles 8:13 Even after a certain rate every day, offering according to the commandment of Moses, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts, three times in the year, even in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles.

In my signature there is a link to three feasts.
 
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Elin said:
prove-all said:
There were no Sabbath or feasts covenants.
Both were part of the Mosaic law on which the Sinaitic covenant was based.
no they are seperate covenents still valid, not part of the laws.
Addressed in post #117, here.

or covenent of Davids of physical man to reign on throne ?
fulfilled in Jesus Christ seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven.
so where was Davids physical king sitting on his throne
Previously addressed in post #109, here.

between Zedekiah, the last king of Judah , and Jesus.

also Jesus has not taken over Davids physical throne,
that he will take over on his return.
That is private and uncertain interpretation of prophetic riddles,
which can be, and are, interpreted by others to mean things entirely different.

What is certain in NT teaching is that Jesus sits at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty
in heaven now.

There is nothing in certain NT teaching about Jesus sitting on David's earthly throne.

I take my understanding from certain NT teaching,
not from prophetic riddles subject to private and uncertain differing interpretations.
 
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and i adressed it in # 96 and other posts,

i say my neighbor does not know Jusus yet.

does the jews neighbors know the Lord
?
That was addressed in post #89, here.

This is your private and uncertain interpretation of a prophetic riddle.

I have another interpretation.

Neither of them is authoritative.
 
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I have studied the feasts, and they are in relation to past present, and future. It was the most interesting study I have ever done. I even wrote a short book. Here's the link, and I hope whoever reads it will enjoy it as much as I have.

Three Feasts of the Pentateuch
I have viewed your Three feast study. First of Fruits uses Barley and not regular Maze for corn. Barley ripens before Wheat and also Maze. Corn is a generic term for many types of grain plants. Barley can ripen as early around the Spring Equinox using fire. Christ was the first fruits and rose after his death at passover. First fruits should start the day after the weekly sabbath after passover.
 
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Why do you insist, your persistence is becoming annoying, rather than edifying.
You have not said one thing to disprove what I have stated.
You just showed from two sources in post #92 that "testament" and "covenant"
have the same meaning in Greek--diatheke, which is their NT meaning.

The English meanings have no bearing on the NT meaning in Greek.
Out of courtesy, I am replying to your ridiculous post, please, for the last time, STOP. Feel free to comment on any other persons comments on this thread;
I understand your frustration at not being able to show your view from the NT.

But this is an open forum.

I don't want to engage in any way, type, shape or form
with you.
Are you not in complete control of that?
 
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I have viewed your Three feast study. First of Fruits uses Barley and not regular Maze for corn. Barley ripens before Wheat and also Maze. Corn is a generic term for many types of grain plants. Barley can ripen as early around the Spring Equinox using fire. Christ was the first fruits and rose after his death at passover. First fruits should start the day after the weekly sabbath after passover.
That is correct. I mentioned that is the book. Corn, as we know today, wasn't in the feast of weeks, but the scriptures can be misleading until one looks up the original Hebrew. Thanks for your input.
 
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In Jer 11:10 Israel broke the law.
In Jer 11:10, Israel broke the berith, which is covenant, not the law.

In breaking the covenant, they nullified it.

Let's not alter the Word of God in Jer 11:10 to fit our own fancies.

What is the source of all these distortions of the Word of God?
 
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In Jer 11:10, Israel broke the berith, which is covenant, not the law.

In breaking the covenant, they nullified it.

Let's not alter the Word of God in Jer 11:10 to fit our own fancies.

What is the source of all these distortions of the Word of God?
In Jer 11:10 Israel broke the covenant by sinning!

Jer 11:10-19 10They have returned to the sins of their ancestors, who refused to listen to my words. They have followed other gods to serve them. Both Israel and Judah have broken the covenant I made with their ancestors.

Sin is the trangression of the Law!

1 John 3:4Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
 
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Let's not alter the Word of God in Jer 11:10 to fit our own fancies.

What is the source of all these distortions of the Word of God?
Oh the irony, this sounds like you are being legalistic in your defence for not following the law.
 
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In Jer 11:10 Israel broke the covenant by sinning!

Jer 11:10-19 10They have returned to the sins of their ancestors, who refused to listen to my words. They have followed other gods to serve them. Both Israel and Judah have broken the covenant I made with their ancestors.

Sin is the trangression of the Law!

1 John 3:4Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
Many people (Christians as well) don't believe that the Abrahamic Covenant applies to Israel today. But know that It's an everlasting covenant. Yes, Israel sins today (as we all do) but they're still God's chosen people.The promises that God made to Israel are eternal. Promises that still apply to Israel today and will forever and ever.
 
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new testament command

22And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said,
Take, eat: this is my body.
23And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.

24And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine,
until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

deciples keep feast after Christs death
Acts 12:3 (KJV)

And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also.
(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)
Yes, the disciples attended the Jewish feasts, no so much to keep them,
as to preach the gospel to the multitudes that were required to attend them (e.g., Ac 2:5-40).

Acts 20:6 (KJV)
And we sailed away from Philippi after (the days of unleavened bread),
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
Yes, observant Jews kept the OT feasts in Jerusalem until its destruction ~40 years
after the gospel, and the Jewish calendar was still their reference point.

1 Corinthians 5:7 (KJV)
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
So Christ was sacrificed on Passover, not on Unleavened Bread.

1 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV)
Therefore let us keep the feast,
not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Yes, that is how the OT annual feast is spiritually observed daily in the NT, by purging sin from our lives.

passover was once a year, not anytime church wants to drink his blood.
Take it up with the Jewish apostles (Ac 20:7; 1Co 11:20; Ac 2:42).

And the sacrifices for sin were daily, and that is what Christ is, our sacrifice of propitiation for sin.

What is the source of all this foolish distortion of the NT?
 
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In Jer 11:10, Israel broke the berith, which is covenant, not the law.

In breaking the covenant, they nullified it.

Let's not alter the Word of God in Jer 11:10 to fit our own fancies.

What is the source of all these distortions of the Word of God?
Psalm 89:39 Thou hast made void the covenant of thy servant: thou hast profaned his crown by casting it to the ground.

David is talking about the covenant God made with him. God never pronounced making it void. This is the only scripture, that I can find, in the old testament that talks about making a covenant void.

1 Kings 11:39 And I will for this afflict the seed of David, but not for ever.

Obviously the covenant with David still stands.

John 7:42 Hath not the scripture said , That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

Micah 5:2 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting .

2 Samuel 7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled , and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.

I agree that Judah broke covenant with God, but that doesn't make the words within the covenant void. The covenant contained God's word same as the wineskin contains the wine. One cannot put new win into old skins, but in reality the wine in the old skin is still good.

Jeremiah11:10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers , which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.

Lamentations 3:31 For the Lord will not cast off for ever
 
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Passover is not a feast, it's the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
Passover represents a sacrifice only.
Passover is one of the eight holy seasons they were required to observe.

There are only 3 feasts that God required Israel to keep. The feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks, and the Feast of Tabernacles.
Nope. . .those are the only holy seasons they were required to go to Jerusalem to observe.

They were required to observe all eight of them.
 
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Passover is one of the eight holy seasons they were required to observe.


Nope. . .those are the only holy seasons they were required to go to Jerusalem to observe.

They were required to observe all eight of them.
There is a difference between holy days and feasts. Trumpets and atonment are observed also, but are not feasts. Trumpets contain 9 days and atonement 5.
 
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In Jer 11:10 Israel broke the covenant by sinning!

Jer 11:10-19 10They have returned to the sins of their ancestors, who refused to listen to my words. They have followed other gods to serve them. Both Israel and Judah have broken the covenant I made with their ancestors.

Sin is the trangression of the Law!

1 John 3:4Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
No need to string verses together to create your own meaning.

It's clearly stated in Jer 11:10--they broke the covenant (berith), not the law (dath).

The Sinaitic covenant was based on the Mosaic law.

To break the law was to break the covenant.

They broke the covenant (Jer 11:10).

Let's not handle the Word of God loosely.

What is the source of all this foolish distortion of the Word of God, unbelief of the NT?
 

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apostles preached the gospel everyday, they did not say here feast everyday, feast was past

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Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things,
and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.


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When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.
21For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.

22What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

they where breaking bread (eating a meal)everyday honoring lords supper,

Jesus said that was wrong, we keep it once a year , on feast day
only those worthly where allowed to keep it.

[the sacrifices for sin were daily]

so the feasts days of God was yearly
what does sacrifices have to do with it,

take away everyday of sacrifices and you still have the feasts.
 
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Oh the irony, this sounds like you are being legalistic in your defence for not following the law.
That's kinda' lame, don't you think?

"Sounds like" is without merit.

The facts of the actual statement are what matter.
 
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Many people (Christians as well) don't believe that the Abrahamic Covenant applies to Israel today. But know that It's an everlasting covenant. Yes, Israel sins today (as we all do) but they're still God's chosen people.The promises that God made to Israel are eternal. Promises that still apply to Israel today and will forever and ever.
You need to review Ro 9-11.i

Lotta' ignorance of the NT going on here.