Obama The Christian

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Budman

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I'm so tired of hearing the mainstream liberal media proclaim that President Obama is a Christian.

Here's six reasons that prove he is not a Christian:

1. Obama believes there are many paths to heaven

2. Obama denies the authority of the Bible

3. Obama supports homosexuality

4. Obama supports abortion

5. Obama affirms Islam

6. Obama has no bona fide Christian testimony


Add more as you see fit.
 
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Change the title of this thread or let it die quickly! Please!
 
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atwhatcost

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I'm so tired of hearing the mainstream liberal media proclaim that President Obama is a Christian.

Here's six reasons that prove he is not a Christian:

1. Obama believes there are many paths to heaven

2. Obama denies the authority of the Bible

3. Obama supports homosexuality

4. Obama supports abortion

5. Obama affirms Islam

6. Obama has no bona fide Christian testimony


Add more as you see fit.
Have this thread sent to the news forum. It's not talking about the Bible. (Not to mention you didn't even go with his religious beliefs to start with.)
 
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Perhaps it should have been;

Obama the "Christian"

:D
That's better. :)

And why is it that the Left hate Christianity, love obama, but really want to sell that oboy is Christian? To whom are they pandering?
 
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KennethC

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I'm so tired of hearing the mainstream liberal media proclaim that President Obama is a Christian.

Here's six reasons that prove he is not a Christian:

1. Obama believes there are many paths to heaven

2. Obama denies the authority of the Bible

3. Obama supports homosexuality

4. Obama supports abortion

5. Obama affirms Islam

6. Obama has no bona fide Christian testimony


Add more as you see fit.

Please provide proof and sources to prove your stance on this, or it is just opinion based on another's bias opinion from what they have heard.....

1) Show me proof on this one because have never heard such thing........

2) Again same as point one......

3-4) Separation of church and state requires all laws to be equal rights to all individuals in the country regardless of religious beliefs and customs. Plus Obama has made statements in the past that he does not support abortion, but believes by law people have the right to freedom of choice........

5) Completely false as this has been proven false many of times....
Obama a Muslim? No he's not. The evidence has not changed. | PolitiFact

6) Again false: Barack Obama's Religious Beliefs and Background

This site shows how Obama grew up in a Christian background by his Christian mother....
 
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KennethC

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That's better. :)

And why is it that the Left hate Christianity, love obama, but really want to sell that oboy is Christian? To whom are they pandering?

Because the conservative bias sources have falsely pinned him as being Muslim, which has been proven false multiple times yet they still want to spread this lie about.......
 
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kaylagrl

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Please provide proof and sources to prove your stance on this, or it is just opinion based on another's bias opinion from what they have heard.....

1) Show me proof on this one because have never heard such thing........

2) Again same as point one......

3-4) Separation of church and state requires all laws to be equal rights to all individuals in the country regardless of religious beliefs and customs. Plus Obama has made statements in the past that he does not support abortion, but believes by law people have the right to freedom of choice........

5) Completely false as this has been proven false many of times....
Obama a Muslim? No he's not. The evidence has not changed. | PolitiFact

6) Again false: Barack Obama's Religious Beliefs and Background

This site shows how Obama grew up in a Christian background by his Christian mother....




Quote-- I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.

Quote--I’m a big believer in tolerance. I think that religion at it’s best comes with a big dose of doubt. I’m suspicious of too much certainty in the pursuit of understanding just because I think people are limited in their understanding...
there’s an enormous amount of damage done around the world in the name of religion and certainty.

Quote-- {to the question who is Jesus to you?} Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history. {he later speaks of a personal relationship,but it seems at odds with what he first answered}

Quote--I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell...I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell...I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity.

Quote---{Do you believe in heaven?}What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded. I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die.

Excerpt from an early interview Obama did.I could post more on the subject but dont have time at the moment.I know some here dont believe in the traditional hell but Im sure they still believe you must be born again to get to heaven.
 
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KennethC

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Quote-- I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.

Quote--I’m a big believer in tolerance. I think that religion at it’s best comes with a big dose of doubt. I’m suspicious of too much certainty in the pursuit of understanding just because I think people are limited in their understanding...
there’s an enormous amount of damage done around the world in the name of religion and certainty.

Quote-- {to the question who is Jesus to you?} Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history. {he later speaks of a personal relationship,but it seems at odds with what he first answered}

Quote--I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell...I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell...I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity.

Quote---{Do you believe in heaven?}What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded. I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die.

Excerpt from an early interview Obama did.I could post more on the subject but dont have time at the moment.I know some here dont believe in the traditional hell but Im sure they still believe you must be born again to get to heaven.

Well you give quotes that might have come from Obama from a interview he might have done, but once again you did not give the source that did this interview.

I could post all kinds of things and say this person said it, and is his personal quotes but if I don't post the source we don't know if it is credible or not. Example is that FOX should never be considered a credible source, as it is a bias conservative source in which I can prove this bias just on the immigration issue alone.....
 
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popeye

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Because the conservative bias sources have falsely pinned him as being Muslim, which has been proven false multiple times yet they still want to spread this lie about.......
Ken,what do you mean?????

There is tons of evidence he is muslim.

Rev wright
Mansour
Faraakkan

All black separatist/nation of islam
All tied to obama
he is filthy with it.

he bowed and kissed the hand of the saudi king.

DREAMS OF MY FATHER.........OBAMA'S BOOK exposing his and his dad' white hating muslim roots????????

His pastor and mentor HATES ISRAEL,God's people?????????
 

Budman

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Please provide proof and sources to prove your stance on this, or it is just opinion based on another's bias opinion from what they have heard.....

1) Show me proof on this one because have never heard such thing........

2) Again same as point one......

3-4) Separation of church and state requires all laws to be equal rights to all individuals in the country regardless of religious beliefs and customs. Plus Obama has made statements in the past that he does not support abortion, but believes by law people have the right to freedom of choice........

5) Completely false as this has been proven false many of times....
Obama a Muslim? No he's not. The evidence has not changed. | PolitiFact

6) Again false: Barack Obama's Religious Beliefs and Background

This site shows how Obama grew up in a Christian background by his Christian mother....

I truly wonder if you simply skim through posts and not actually comprehend what was written.

1) Show me proof on this one because have never heard such thing........
"So, I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people. That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived." - From an interview with Chicago Sun-Times religion reporter, March 27, 2004, Chicago, Ill.

2) Again same as point one......


He denies the authority of the Bible when he claims other religions, and religious writings (such as the Koran) are as valid as Christianity and the Bible.

3-4) Separation of church and state requires all laws to be equal rights to all individuals in the country regardless of religious beliefs and customs. Plus Obama has made statements in the past that he does not support abortion, but believes by law people have the right to freedom of choice........
It doesn't matter in regard to the separation of church and state - what matters is what God thinks about it. God condemns both homosexuality and abortion. And it's rather funny you say Obama doesn't support abortion when he is one of the most pro-abortion Presidents ( and before that - Senator) in recent American history. Take a look at his voting history in regard to abortion when he was a Senator. Obama even said "God bless you" to an assembly of baby-killing Planned Parenthood employees and supporters in 2013.

5) Completely false as this has been proven false many of times...


I never said he was a muslim. Again, you are not really reading posts. I said he "affirms" Islam. Affirm means: To offer support and encouragement.

This site shows how Obama grew up in a Christian background by his Christian mother....

Obama's mother was an agnostic. Obama wrote in The Audacity of Hope: "I was not raised in a religious household ... My mother's own experiences ... only reinforced this inherited skepticism. Her memories of the Christians who populated her youth were not fond ones ... And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known." - "Religion for her was "just one of the many ways—and not necessarily the best way—that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives,"

Her own daughter, Maya Soetoro-Ng, when asked later if her mother was an atheist, said, "I wouldn't have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic." Chicago Tribune 04-02-2012


 
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KennethC

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Ken,what do you mean?????

There is tons of evidence he is muslim.

Rev wright
Mansour
Faraakkan

All black separatist/nation of islam
All tied to obama
he is filthy with it.

he bowed and kissed the hand of the saudi king.

DREAMS OF MY FATHER.........OBAMA'S BOOK exposing his and his dad' white hating muslim roots????????

His pastor and mentor HATES ISRAEL,God's people?????????


Come on now as once again all sources from a bias standpoint to keep that lie alive............

Did you even read the link I gave that exposes this lie ???
 
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popeye

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This is just a start to the gold mine of evidence


[video=youtube;tCAffMSWSzY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY[/video]



Please provide proof and sources to prove your stance on this, or it is just opinion based on another's bias opinion from what they have heard.....

1) Show me proof on this one because have never heard such thing........

2) Again same as point one......

3-4) Separation of church and state requires all laws to be equal rights to all individuals in the country regardless of religious beliefs and customs. Plus Obama has made statements in the past that he does not support abortion, but believes by law people have the right to freedom of choice........

5) Completely false as this has been proven false many of times....
Obama a Muslim? No he's not. The evidence has not changed. | PolitiFact

6) Again false: Barack Obama's Religious Beliefs and Background

This site shows how Obama grew up in a Christian background by his Christian mother....
 
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Speaking at the White House later in the morning, Obama said "Americans should be very proud," because small acts of courage "slowly made an entire country realize that love is love."

Sounds like the pres wants more love....the more the merrier....so....next up, make polygamy legal in all 50 states!

And....why stop there?

Many people love their pets....so let them marry their pets....!


After all....the President said it himself.....'love is love'....and to make it unconditional love, you MUST be able to marry anyone, or anything that you want, right?


Our president is a joke.
 
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popeye

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Come on now as once again all sources from a bias standpoint to keep that lie alive............

Did you even read the link I gave that exposes this lie ???
WATCH IT AND PRAY MY FRIEND.....we have been had



[video=youtube;RJzU056ccV4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJzU056ccV4[/video]
 
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KennethC

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I truly wonder if you simply skim through posts and not actually comprehend what was written.



"So, I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people. That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived." - From an interview with Chicago Sun-Times religion reporter, March 27, 2004, Chicago, Ill.



He denies the authority of the Bible when he claims other religions, and religious writings (such as the Koran) are as valid as Christianity and the Bible.



It doesn't matter in regard to the separation of church and state - what matters is what God thinks about it. God condemns both homosexuality and abortion. And it's rather funny you say Obama doesn't support abortion when he is one of the most pro-abortion Presidents ( and before that - Senator) in recent American history. Take a look at his voting history in regard to abortion when he was a Senator. Obama even said "God bless you" to an assembly of baby-killing Planned Parenthood employees and supporters in 2013.



I never said he was a muslim. Again, you are not really reading posts. I said he "affirms" Islam. Affirm means: To offer support and encouragement.




Obama's mother was an agnostic. Obama wrote in The Audacity of Hope: "I was not raised in a religious household ... My mother's own experiences ... only reinforced this inherited skepticism. Her memories of the Christians who populated her youth were not fond ones ... And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known." - "Religion for her was "just one of the many ways—and not necessarily the best way—that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives,"

Her own daughter, Maya Soetoro-Ng, when asked later if her mother was an atheist, said, "I wouldn't have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic." Chicago Tribune 04-02-2012



First point there is only way to heaven and that is through Jesus Christ, however did you come to Christ the same way I came to Christ. I bet you probably didn't as some come to him from growing up in a well rooted household in the faith, and others do not come to him tell later on in life do to a hardship or so on that leads them for help. They then turn to the Lord for that help, so technically our paths are different that lead us to Christ.

Second I am glad you posted some sources, but in some points they were again opinion based on what you have heard.
If he has made that statement of the Koran being just as valid as the bible for salvation then he is wrong.

Third separation of Church and State does matter because even our Lord Jesus said we are not to force our beliefs on others, and if our laws here in America were only based on God's laws (Which I wish they were!!!) it would be forcing our beliefs on others who live here that do not believe the same.

Forth Obama has said all along do to the separation of church and state that he is pro-choice not pro-abortion, as there is a difference between the two. One does not have to support a situation if they are giving all people the right to choose how they live. Even God gives us the choice to follow Him or follow the ways of the world !!!

God does not take our free will to choose away (Joshua 24:15) so why do you want to take the free will away from others to choose...........

Lord Jesus says we are to show love to all people, including those who are our enemies.
Jesus says to pray for them and do good to them (Matthew 5:43-48), nowhere does Jesus say to show hatred or condemn these people. We are to show them love, help, and encouragement, and in the process show them the Lord's truth..........

The source I posted said this about Obama;

"Barack Obama abandoned this non-conformism and skepticism to be baptized as an adult in the Trinity United Church of Christ."

"The United Church of Christ emphasizes the freedom of the individual conscience over adherence to creeds or hierarchical authority. This is similar to traditional Baptist Christianity and something that is honored more in theory than in practice when it comes to the Southern Baptist Convention. "

It says the teachings of his church are similar to that of the Southern Baptist teachings, as it refuses to follow creeds or hierarchical authority, which is something the Catholic church teaches as they have been known to place their personal creeds and the authority of their church and pope over the teachings of the Lord in the bible.....

I don't believe in allowing gay marriage as this church has come to do in some of its branches as it shows this denomination is split, yet I also know it is not my place to enforce my beliefs on others nor to tell another person they can't have equal rights to choose how to live......
 
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KennethC

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This is just a start to the gold mine of evidence


[video=youtube;tCAffMSWSzY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY[/video]
WATCH IT AND PRAY MY FRIEND.....we have been had



Your video's are not posting through, and once again if they are trying to prove Obama to be Muslim then again most likely a bias source. This has been talked about and disproven multiple times.....
 
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KennethC

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WATCH IT AND PRAY MY FRIEND.....we have been had



Your video's are not posting through, and once again if they are trying to prove Obama to be Muslim then again most likely a bias source. This has been talked about and disproven multiple times.....

Wow when I post to your post then it comes through............Amazing