Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

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Blain

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Yes, I do believe it could be a last push of God to give humanity one last chance. Mostly the younger generations that are disconnected from any idea that God exists.

I read a Pew Research Poll where people 30 and under that only 18% believe it's possible a God could exist.

Just crazy when I was born from my Mother's Womb and in Church immediately and always had an idea about God and today young ADULTS and younger have no idea about God.

But with this last Movement I think Satan will be more blatant than ever to stop it and Believers like us will be required to be a vital part of spiritual warfare.

I also think our Biblical knowledge will be necessary to reach others with during this period.

We might be the only example of Christ these people will ever know this side of Heaven.
That is why he sent me here I stayed away for a long time because this site hurts my already damaged eyes but when I surrendered to him and swore to be his right hand that meant all of me so though it hurts and damages my eyes I am here because he said to and he sent me with a message from him to his church but then he started speaking different things like he was like the wind here and then there all laying a message after message for those who would heed it.

I expected him to speak in a more precise manner like you see all those prophets acting but he was mixing it up dropping hints here and there.

All of it because of what you have confirmed
 
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Idealsm is not what I'm bringing to the table im after truth and wont accept anything less it has to be the real thing or nothing at all
believe it or not I actually never know what I am going to say I just say to God I am the pen you are the words and then the words just spill out and I can feel his breath on my neck.

I speak of things I myself do not understand but am slowly growing in and it is because of obedience to his voice you don't just get to have the deeper things of God there are levels and ranks in his kingdom just like any other kingdom you rank up with obedience and thus are allowed more confidential things

I am not perfect in this yet there is a frequency you have to tune into it has to be his frequency then you can hear him clearly and though I am tuned it sometimes some static pops up this is where I have grace.

But I have to obey him even if I seem like im a bit off because I saw who are in him when I went to the other side where he is calling us to but many are called few are chosen I don't know really what it is that he has cooking where he would need a church that would be a representation of him unlike anything before but it must be big if he is needing us at that level.

There are some very extreme LIBERAL States and Communities within these States that are decrepit to degrees of filth and discust. I've traveled pretty much all over the United States and some places the spiritual heaviness and despair are tremendous.

But with gay marriage and gender issues wide open, these places are oppressed and dreary. They're teaching 6 year Olds they can be the opposite gender and encourage them to explore these idealisms.

Parents are wrapped up in trying to become wealthy working with status climbing the ranks of social status and their children are being used as gender puppets.

I see many places that need God. I just don't see anyone listening to God to go to these places and build Churches. Maybe God was waiting until now. I don't know but something big needs to happen that wakes these people up.
 

Blain

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There are some very extreme LIBERAL States and Communities within these States that are decrepit to degrees of filth and discust. I've traveled pretty much all over the United States and some places the spiritual heaviness and despair are tremendous.

But with gay marriage and gender issues wide open, these places are oppressed and dreary. They're teaching 6 year Olds they can be the opposite gender and encourage them to explore these idealisms.

Parents are wrapped up in trying to become wealthy working with status climbing the ranks of social status and their children are being used as gender puppets.

I see many places that need God. I just don't see anyone listening to God to go to these places and build Churches. Maybe God was waiting until now. I don't know but something big needs to happen that wakes these people up.
You know I just got out of the shower and was thinking about these things before I even saw your response and I was telling God in the shower you have church, you have tried the bible, you have triedevery which way to reach the world who if they would repent they would enter a glorious enheritence but even many of your children have their theologies and beliefs they go to church they do prayer meetings but still where they are needed most they don't go they like the idea of distant work where they can pray and not get their hands dirty.

I then said to him Lord I think the world needs a taste of the real thing a reminder of why you are God

And believe me this is going to happen I can't stand being trapped in my apartment because of my eyes I want to get into the field already but until then at the very least I want to get the church moving places like you described shouldn't happen
 
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That is why he sent me here I stayed away for a long time because this site hurts my already damaged eyes but when I surrendered to him and swore to be his right hand that meant all of me so though it hurts and damages my eyes I am here because he said to and he sent me with a message from him to his church but then he started speaking different things like he was like the wind here and then there all laying a message after message for those who would heed it.

I expected him to speak in a more precise manner like you see all those prophets acting but he was mixing it up dropping hints here and there.

All of it because of what you have confirmed

I have been good at reading people in many formats by the leading of the Holy Spirit. And Discernment has been a wonderful Gift.
 
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It took me a while, but I finally put my finger on what the issue is with the OSAS crowd.

They are all about Jesus being Savior, but they never talk about how Jesus is their Lord.

Jesus talked extensively about obeying him, keeping his commandments, and warned about lip service calling him Lord but not doing his Father’s will.
 
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You know I just got out of the shower and was thinking about these things before I even saw your response and I was telling God in the shower you have church, you have tried the bible, you have triedevery which way to reach the world who if they would repent they would enter a glorious enheritence but even many of your children have their theologies and beliefs they go to church they do prayer meetings but still where they are needed most they don't go they like the idea of distant work where they can pray and not get their hands dirty.

I then said to him Lord I think the world needs a taste of the real thing a reminder of why you are God

And believe me this is going to happen I can't stand being trapped in my apartment because of my eyes I want to get into the field already but until then at the very least I want to get the church moving places like you described shouldn't happen
You probably see what you could never see because of your eyes and dependence upon God.

Well it's not going to be too long before we know what God is doing. We just need to be ready and available.
 

Blain

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It took me a while, but I finally put my finger on what the issue is with the OSAS crowd.

They are all about Jesus being Savior, but they never talk about how Jesus is their Lord.

Jesus talked extensively about obeying him, keeping his commandments, and warned about lip service calling him Lord but not doing his Father’s will.
Bingo! You got it exactly!
 

Blain

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You probably see what you could never see because of your eyes and dependence upon God.

Well it's not going to be too long before we know what God is doing. We just need to be ready and available.
Yep I like imafine me being at the door of his just waiting for the next assignment like let go Im up for anything kind of thing
I don't know what is up ahead exactly but I see Jesus cracking his knuckles saying this is gonna be fun
I don't think he thinks it;s going to be fun in regard to what is going to happen but I think he is going to really shake things up
 
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It took me a while, but I finally put my finger on what the issue is with the OSAS crowd.

They are all about Jesus being Savior, but they never talk about how Jesus is their Lord.

Jesus talked extensively about obeying him, keeping his commandments, and warned about lip service calling him Lord but not doing his Father’s will.

All of their doctrines are packaged neatly and have little punch to them.
 
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Yep I like imafine me being at the door of his just waiting for the next assignment like let go Im up for anything kind of thing
I don't know what is up ahead exactly but I see Jesus cracking his knuckles saying this is gonna be fun
I don't think he thinks it;s going to be fun in regard to what is going to happen but I think he is going to really shake things up

Well this Nation has dug itself into a massive hole and their views on morality is disgusting so it has to be like pouring alcohol onto a open wound to wake them up.
 

Blain

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It took me a while, but I finally put my finger on what the issue is with the OSAS crowd.

They are all about Jesus being Savior, but they never talk about how Jesus is their Lord.

Jesus talked extensively about obeying him, keeping his commandments, and warned about lip service calling him Lord but not doing his Father’s will.
I honestly am so amazed at this post I mean you just flat out nailed it can we make this a sticky please?
 

Blain

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Well this Nation has dug itself into a massive hole and their views on morality is disgusting so it has to be like pouring alcohol onto a open wound to wake them up.
True and the good thing about pouring a;chohal is it cleans the infected wound which ironically is the meaning of my name rather more like boils as they are refered to as Blains in scripture my mom really didnt like me so maybe she was being clever with that
 

HeIsHere

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But, I am not given this Gift of Salvation so I can live like Satan and murder people, steal from people, be a habitual Sinner on purpose and think it's good I am Saved.
All I can say anyone who understands the concept of justification and grace as taught by Paul would never make such a ridiculous statement.

It is completely absurd, like some how a person will flourish by adopting a sinful lifestyle.

Exactly what Paul warned about, here it is again. Let it really sink in.

And why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say.

Their condemnation is just.

Roman 3:8

Do you really believe all sins were paid for at the cross?
 

Everlasting-Grace

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It took me a while, but I finally put my finger on what the issue is with the OSAS crowd.

They are all about Jesus being Savior, but they never talk about how Jesus is their Lord.

Jesus talked extensively about obeying him, keeping his commandments, and warned about lip service calling him Lord but not doing his Father’s will.
I already figured out along time ago the problem with legalists.

The claim Jesus as lord, but they reject him as savior. they are trying to save them selves by their works. and for some reason think God will accept their works as payment for sin.

while the believe the cross. they reject the cross and what it stands for.

Instead of attacking others and falsly accusing them of hating works. You should look inside and ask why you reject the cross
 

Blain

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so true,

People with different beliefs all say they are discerning what the HS is saying. they can;t all be right..
that is because there is only one truth and we have to want the truth and the truth alone and that is found in Jesus Christ only when you hunger for the truth of all matters he gives you a kind of radar your actively looking for the truth and you can read a post and while there is a wall of words something in their catches your radar as truth and it always leads to wanting to know more.