Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

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Melach

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@Ahwatukee you are right and in other times there was no way you could cause all people to take a mark or even most people. it was so easy to be just somewhere in the wilderness. today's technology makes it impossible to just live in the wilderness unnoticed.
 
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No, everything does not related to the Tanakh! All you are doing is repeating a teaching that has been going around, which is false. In order to come to a right conclusion, we must pay attention to the context.

Scripture states that the mark will go in/on the right hand or forehead. Unless anyone receives the mark they will not be able to buy or sell. That said, it is pretty hard to wear a piece of gold on your hand or forehead to make purchases.

"The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants what things it behooves to take place in quickness"

The word "anastasis" translated as "revelation" is defined as " an unveiling, uncovering, revealing, a disclosure of truth, instruction, concerning divine things before unknown. Therefore, this coming mark is something that will have previously been unknown.

In John's vision he was trying to describe something that he had nothing to compare to and that because there was nothing like the technology that we have today. However, the technology for mark has been here and has been evolving. Sine 2015, employees of a certain company in Sweden have been receiving RFID chips under the skin of their hands which allows them entrance into the building, access to equipment and to be able to purchase food at the local café. This technology is also here in the US where one company is offering the RFID chip in order to make purchases in the break room.

The system which the mark will use has been in place for some time. It is the electronic crediting and debiting system that allows people to pay by the swiping of their debit or credit cards and/or via cell phone bank apps. This technology will continue to evolve to something more applicable in preparation for that coming antichrist. Very soon, we will begin to see people making purchases by the scanning of their hands, replacing the swiping of cards.

The generation that we live in is the only one where the mark could be fulfilled and that because of the system of electronic crediting and debiting (buying and selling). Paper money, checks and all other forms of buying and selling will become obsolete when that antichrist/beast proclaims himself to be God and the mark in the right hand or forehead will be the only valid method for making purchases.
I really don't see how a microchip is the same as a mark, nor how you could make so many people accept a microchip willingly. Plus the chips, like they are easy to break and your body will actually reject them and push them out. I would think the mark is simply a tattoo, tattoos are referred to as marks in the Bible (ie: Leviticus 19:28), and then looking around at society today it probably wouldn't be much of a stretch to make people tattoo themselves willingly, especially in this generation and the generations to soon grow up.
 
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How is it then so-called "prophetic time" does not adhere to the prophecy of the prophet? Is this to say Daniel was a false prophet? I think it is more likely people that came way later are the ones lying rather, and that Daniel told the truth.
Because the 70 weeks of Daniel was prophetic time, a day to a year conversion. That is how we know.
 

Ahwatukee

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The man of sin already came, it is the Roman popes, which is why the prostitute of Babylon is seated in the seven mountains of Rome, which is Vatican City, and she rules over all the kings of the earth through money, for all the central banks of the world issue her form of money to all the inhabitants of the world, which is paper money and fiat currency, and that is why when she is destroyed by the 10 nations that give their authority to the USE the entire financial system will collapse, for the "merchants of the earth will wail for her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore", because paper money and fiat currency will suddenly become worthless. This is the truth, and most people in the world already have the mark of the beast, through ignorance. It is money itself, and God has wisely chosen it to be this to condemn the world through money, and to test the inhabitants of the world to see who truly obeys the commands of God and leaves the financial system, hence "come out of her my people, so that you do not partake in her plagues".
The man of sin/antichrist, has not yet come, because his being revealed is directly linked with the Lord's return to the earth to end the age, as demonstrated below:

"But the beast was captured along with the false prophet, who on its behalf had performed signs deceiving those who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. Both the beast and the false prophet were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur." (Rev.19:20)

The above takes place as Jesus is returning to the earth to end the age. At that time, all the kings of the earth and their armies will be gathered together at Armageddon where they will all be killed by that double-edged sword. In addition, the following event also takes place as Jesus is returning to the earth:

"Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out in a loud voice to all the birds flying overhead, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings and commanders and mighty men, of horses and riders, of all men slave and free, small and great." (Rev.19:17)

Needless to say, those events, plus many, many more would have to take place in regards to the antichrist and the Lord's return to the earth, which are yet future.
 

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Just wondering, did you figure out this conspiracy all by yourself, or did you have help?
You know the answer to that Sipsey. This is a well know false teaching that has been going around for some time.
 

Ahwatukee

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I figured it out on my own, by the favor of God, because I was once blind to this evil that exists through paper money. And there are not many people preaching against this, in fact no one is, that I've seen. The only people I've seen speak out against this form of money are a group of Muslims I found on YouTube. Paper money and fiat currency is the true mark of the beast.
In keeping with the scriptures, how the mark is to be on the right hand or forehead. How do you figure that into your scenario? By the way, you didn't figure this out on your own, because it is a well known false teaching.
 

Ahwatukee

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The bible study interpreting the beasts of Revelation and the beasts of Daniel and how they relate to the mark of the beast can be found here http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/12/0...the-mark-of-the-beast-and-the-meaning-of-666/ . I am telling you the truth people, listen, and do not harden your hearts. You only bring condemnation upon yourselves for doing so.
What you have posted above is exactly the problem. These are the false teachings of men that you have adopted.
 
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In keeping with the scriptures, how the mark is to be on the right hand or forehead. How do you figure that into your scenario? By the way, you didn't figure this out on your own, because it is a well known false teaching.
Is it? Show me who teaches that paper money and fiat currency is the mark of the beast, if indeed it is so well known. I already explained that, scroll up.
 
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Because the 70 weeks of Daniel was prophetic time, a day to a year conversion. That is how we know.
But that's not what the prophecy says. That means either Daniel has to be lying outright and is a false prophet OR that someone probably closer to our time in history is merely lying to try to force Daniel's prophecies to confirm their own. My guess by the anti-Catholic undertones is it is probably the Protestants that made this up.
 
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But that's not what the prophecy says. That means either Daniel has to be lying outright and is a false prophet OR that someone probably closer to our time in history is merely lying to try to force Daniel's prophecies to confirm their own. My guess by the anti-Catholic undertones is it is probably the Protestants that made this up.
70 prophetic weeks is 490 literal years. Read this bible study so you can see http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2019/01/21/why-the-70-weeks-of-daniel-were-fulfilled-entirely/
 

Ahwatukee

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@Ahwatukee you are right and in other times there was no way you could cause all people to take a mark or even most people. it was so easy to be just somewhere in the wilderness. today's technology makes it impossible to just live in the wilderness unnoticed.
This electronic crediting and debiting system will continue to evolve leading up to the emergence of the antichrist/beast. But before it becomes mandatory, the Lord will appear and gather His church. Then the rest of the inhabitants who remain will be faced with the decision of receiving or rejecting the mark. Those who reject it, will be those who will have become believers in Christ after the church has been gathered and during the time of God's wrath.

The reason why this system will work, is because all other methods of buying and selling will no longer be valid.

The mark will become the only valid method of performing electronic crediting and debiting to ones bank account. All transactions at that time will be virtual.
 

Dan_473

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Again, thanks for the info.

So, it sounded like from what you had written earlier that you bought seven years worth of food and that's what you will eat in addition to whatever you can grow in your rooftop garden or receive in donations.

I assume it's mostly cans that you bought. How much space does that take up?
 
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Again, thanks for the info.

So, it sounded like from what you had written earlier that you bought seven years worth of food and that's what you will eat in addition to whatever you can grow in your rooftop garden or receive in donations.

I assume it's mostly cans that you bought. How much space does that take up?
Not as much as you'd think. I am establishing a community here in Medellin of other people that are also leaving the financial system, and as each person converts into necessities and gold and silver it will provide for their own needs and also the needs of others who are poorer and do not have much to convert, as we all await the second coming.
 
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Well there's no need, I have all ready read the entire Bible multiple times.
Yet you've understood nothing apparently. How can one persuade a flat earther that the earth is spherical if they believe nothing one says? By just letting them be.
 
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This electronic crediting and debiting system will continue to evolve leading up to the emergence of the antichrist/beast. But before it becomes mandatory, the Lord will appear and gather His church. Then the rest of the inhabitants who remain will be faced with the decision of receiving or rejecting the mark. Those who reject it, will be those who will have become believers in Christ after the church has been gathered and during the time of God's wrath.

The reason why this system will work, is because all other methods of buying and selling will no longer be valid.

The mark will become the only valid method of performing electronic crediting and debiting to ones bank account. All transactions at that time will be virtual.
Sounds fantastical.
 
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Yet you've understood nothing apparently. How can one persuade a flat earther that the earth is spherical if they believe nothing one says? By just letting them be.
No, I understood the Bible, it's not hard to understand when you just let the words speak for themselves.

As for the flat earther, I suppose you could do the earth curvature calculations online pretty easily to see how much curve ought be visible in the spherical earth model between two locations of which the distance is known and at an altitude of about 10,000-15,000 feet (which is the altitude commercial planes fly, the captain will inform you of the altitude also during the flight), take a plane ride, get the window seat, and see if the calculations prove true or false.
 
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No, I understood the Bible, it's not hard to understand when you just let the words speak for themselves.

As for the flat earther, I suppose you could do the earth curvature calculations online pretty easily to see how much curve ought be visible in the spherical earth model between two locations of which the distance is known and at an altitude of about 10,000-15,000 feet (which is the altitude commercial planes fly, the captain will inform you of the altitude also during the flight), take a plane ride, get the window seat, and see if the calculations prove true or false.
oh.
 

Dan_473

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Not as much as you'd think. I am establishing a community here in Medellin of other people that are also leaving the financial system, and as each person converts into necessities and gold and silver it will provide for their own needs and also the needs of others who are poorer and do not have much to convert, as we all await the second coming.
You don't actually have 7 years worth of food stored up then?

In your community will you all be living in the same building? Or will people continue to live in their houses?
 
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