Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them

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CWJ

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Hello CWJ,

This may seem to be a stupid question, but for the sake of clarity would you please refer me, with chapter and verse to the Scripture where God tells you to 'Keep' the Lent or keep the resurrection or the Easter? I would really like to understand where you are coming from.

Just book chapter and verse, no explanation.
Hello jag1977,

I don't 'keep' lent, (for God does not ask me to), I don't 'keep' Easter (because God does not ask me to), and I rejoice in His resurrection every day, does that help you to understand where I am coming from?


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CWJ

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Hello John832,

This may seem to be a stupid question, but for the sake of clarity would you please refer me, with chapter and verse to the Scripture where God tells you to 'Keep' the Passover? For I would really like to understand where you are coming from.

Just book chapter and verse, no explanation.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
John832,

This question was asked from a genuine desire to understand, I hope that you will not subject it to mockery too.

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Hello jag1977,

I don't 'keep' lent, (for God does not ask me to), I don't 'keep' Easter (because God does not ask me to), and I rejoice in His resurrection every day, does that help you to understand where I am coming from?


:)
Is that your final answer or do you need more time to edit? You keep the Passover. I does not. They Lent. I does not. Did you do that on purpose or were you just referring to yourself as I?

[SUP]8 [/SUP]And all these thy servants shall come down unto me, and bow down themselves unto me, saying, Get thee out, and all the people that follow thee: and after that I will go out. And he went out from Pharaoh in a great anger.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the Lord said unto Moses, Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you; that my wonders may be multiplied in the land of Egypt.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh: and the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go out of his land.


[SUP]35 [/SUP]And the children of Israel did according to the word of Moses; and they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment:

[SUP]36 [/SUP]And the Lord gave the people favour in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they lent unto them such things as they required. And they spoiled the Egyptians.




[SUP]2 [/SUP]This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the Lord's passover.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, """"" I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.""""""
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
 
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I didn't realize you had trouble comprehending the fact that Paul was CORRECTING them for coming together to eat "the Lord's supper". He then tells them to eat a meal at their homes. Then Paul goes on to explain what they were supposed to be there for...




And so you left off the the next verse which tells them what they are there for...

1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

He gave them the command to do what Christ had done. What did Christ do?

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

so they were not their for the purpose of "the Lord's supper", they were there to take the Passover. Now, Christ institutes the New Testament symbols for the Passover that replace the Old Testament symbols.

Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

The OT symbols looked forward to Christ, the NT symbols commemorate Christ. The Corinthians, just like the church today, is supposed to come together on the Passover to take a small piece of unleavened bread and small glass of wine to commemorate the sacrifice of Christ.

There is one more part of the Passover service we are to do...

Joh 13:4 He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself.
Joh 13:5 After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.
Joh 13:6 Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet?
Joh 13:7 Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.

Joh 13:12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?
Joh 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
Joh 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
Joh 13:15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

Jesus says here that if He is our Lord and Master, then we should be washing one another's feet at the Passover service.

Joh 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
Joh 13:17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.
If you know the law so well then why do you leave this out?

Exodus 12

43 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “These are the regulations for the Passover meal:
“No foreigner may eat it. 44 Any slave you have bought may eat it after you have circumcised him,45 but a temporary resident or a hired worker may not eat it.
46 “It must be eaten inside the house; take none of the meat outside the house. Do not break any of the bones. 47 The whole community of Israel must celebrate it.
48 “A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the Lord’s Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it. 49 The same law applies both to the native-born and to the foreigner residing among you.”

The church at Corinth was a mixed church of both Jew and Gentile,circumcised and uncircumcised. Paul having been a PHARISEE would have well known of this part of the law and would have KNOWN that for an UNCIRCUMCISED GENTILE to partake of the Passover would have been OFFENSIVE to a circumcised Jew. Paul is NOT speaking of the Passover meal.

By the way Jesus plainly says He is using it as an EXAMPLE. Jesus is NOT giving us another ritual. Jesus taught on being a servant time and time again,and then He shows it by EXAMPLE.
 
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I didn't realize you had trouble comprehending the fact that Paul was CORRECTING them for coming together to eat "the Lord's supper". He then tells them to eat a meal at their homes. Then Paul goes on to explain what they were supposed to be there for...
the lengths some will go to teach false doctrine.

paul taught them when they come together as a church to take the Lord's supper. your theory is that the church meets once a year? can you read?

1 Corinthians 11
17 Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse. 18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you. 20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. 21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.

23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.

paul doesn't teach them anything about supposedly "keeping" the passover feast. he calls it ON THE NIGHT HE WAS BETRAYED.
 

KohenMatt

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A big part of Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread is also eating un-leavened bread over the course of the week.

Exodus 12:15
"Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, but on the first day you shall
remove leaven from your houses"

So our family is just about done getting the yeast out, but now we are preparing to eat unleavened bread every day.

For those of you who have already de-leavened, what are you planning on doing to "eat un-leavened bread" this week?


 
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Galatians 3
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
 
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Here's an interesting article that I read recently by Charles Spurgeon about "priests and Levites."
"And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the Lord."—Isaiah 66:21.
HIS chapter is surrounded with critical difficulties, and yet it is full of spiritual instruction. The verse before us is by some referred to Gentiles, and supposed to mean that the Lord promises that he will take out of the heathen nations a people whom he will make into priests and Levites. Others would say it points to the Jews, rejected for their unbelief and dispersed in judgment among all nations. When their own Messiah came, it was not with a devout faith, but with a profane imprecation, they said, "His blood be on us, and on our children." The curse they invoked did come upon them. The retribution they challenged has been meted out to them in full measure. To the letter it was verified. Have you never read how, when Titus was besieging Jerusalem, five hundred Jews were sometimes crucified in a day? Do you not remember that Josephus, speaking as an eye-witness, said, "There wanted room for crosses, and crosses for bodies"? To this day their children are scattered in all lands, and have found no rest for the soles of their feet. But they are to be restored; they are to be brought back to their own land, and to worship God in his holy mountain; and in the latter days, when they are restored, then will God take of them for priests and Levites. To me it appears of very small consequence to which this verse refers, for in Christ Jesus there is neither Gentile nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision; and this promise seems to me to stand good to the whole human race considered in its fallen state. "I will take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the Lord." Under the gospel dispensation God will select both out of Jews and Gentiles a chosen people, who shall stand before him spiritually as the priests and the Levites stood before him typically.
To read the entire article:

A New Order of Priests and Levites

I also wanted to add a passage from 1 Peter:

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
1 Peter 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
 

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You should let Paul in on the secret...

Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

Paul was at Philipi for the Days of Unleavened Bread. Why not for Ishtar? Because they did not keep Ishtar, they kept Unleavened Bread.

1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Paul says here to keep the Feast.


The Feast that Paul says to keep is not the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

The Feast Paul said to keep is the Feast of the Lord's Supper.

It cannot be the Jewish Feast of Unleavened Bread, because in order for one to keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread, they must have first kept Passover.





Paul also kept the Passover...

1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
1Co 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.


Paul is telling the Corinthians believers how to properly observe the Lord's Supper.

1 Cor. 11 could not be referring to the Passover, because no passover Lamb was eaten in the upper room on that night.





Notice here what he received is what Christ did on the night He was betrayed? What did He do?

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.


And this Feast which the Lord and His Disciples kept was a preparatory meal before the Passover.


It could not have been the passover itself because they crucified Christ on the day of the Passover, when they were slaughtering the lambs.





Really? Not for the stranger (Gentile)?

Exo 12:49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.


Well let's keep the Scriptures in context.



Exodus 12:37-50

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)


37 And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children. 38 And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle. 39 And they baked unleavened cakes of the dough which they brought forth out of Egypt, for it was not leavened; because they were thrust out of Egypt, and could not tarry, neither had they prepared for themselves any victual.
40 Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. 41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt. 42 It is a night to be much observed unto the Lord for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the Lord to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations.
43 And the Lord said unto Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance of the passover: There shall no stranger eat thereof: 44 but every man’s servant that is bought for money, when thou hast circumcised him, then shall he eat thereof. 45 A foreigner and an hired servant shall not eat thereof.46 In one house shall it be eaten; thou shalt not carry forth ought of the flesh abroad out of the house; neither shall ye break a bone thereof. 47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. 48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
50 Thus did all the children of Israel; as the Lord commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they.




So John, let me ask you, have you been circumcised?

For a Gentile to be able to keep the Passover with the Children of Israel, then they had to be circumcised first.





Deu 5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.



Yes; the Sabbath was to be kept and obeyed by all in Israel. It was a part of the Mosaic Covenant of the Old Testament Law.

But remember; we are discussing the keeping and observing of the Passover here.




Isa 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.

Doesn't say blessed is the Jew, it says blessed is the man.

Isa 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.


And the much of Isaiah 57; especially the verses which you highlighted is Doctrinally pointed at the Millennial Kingdom.

During the 1,000 year Reign of Jesus Christ, all nations (Gentiles) will be required to go up to Jerusalem from year to year to worship the LORD of Hosts and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles (See Zechariah 14).

Therefore in the Millennial Kingdom, the Gentiles will also be keeping the Sabbath. The Sabbath will be reinstituted in the Millennial Kingdom. In fact, the Sabbath will even be reinstituted in the time of Jacob's trouble (Daniel's 70th week), See Matthew 24:20 and Mark 13:18.



In the Millennial Kingdom; the LORD's House (In Jerusalem) will be called a House of Prayer for all people (Isa. 56:7).



Then when Christ returns...

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.


Yep, and Isaiah 66 is also pointed Doctrinally at the Millennial Kingdom.



Not "Jewish flesh" but ALL FLESH will keep the Sabbath!

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

The Gentile nations WILL KEEP the Feast Days or they will receive no rain and other plagues until they do.


Again John; yes, in the Millennial Kingdom, both Jews and Gentiles will keep the Sabbath and also the Feast Days.


That is the program which God will have in effect during His Millennial Reign.


But today in the Church Age, the Sabbath is not a Law.



Now we can follow and keep the principle of the Sabbath, by taking a day of rest each week from our work, for our benefit (healthwise).


But as a Law, the Sabbath is not in effect today. Why? Because we are living in the Dispensation of the Church. We are not under the Mosaic Law.





Hmmm, clever argument...

1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,



We are to consent to the words of our Lord Jesus Christ.

And if we (Christians) are going to take it upon ourselves to keep Passover and the Feast of Unleavened bread, well then we better seek to keep ALL of it and not just some parts which we want to keep while avoiding other parts of it.


And by the way; Jesus Christ our Lord is our passover (1 Cor. 5:7).

So to try to put yourself back under the Mosaic Law and keep an OT ordinance which was given to the Nation of Israel, and to try to justify yourself by keeping the Law, you are implying that the sacrifice which Jesus gave on the cross of calvary was not enough.





But really, let me help you out...

Eze 20:25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;

Now this verse lifted out of context is quite often used to say the Laws are not good. Let's understand it...

Eze 20:19 I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;
Eze 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.
Eze 20:21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness.



And the context is the Nation of Israel. That is who God is addressing in Ezekiel 20.

The passage in Ezekiel 20 is about God's dealings with the Nation of Israel and how He gave them His Laws, Statues, and Sabbaths.



God gave them WONDERFUL Laws, but they would not keep them, in fact they could not keep them...


They could keep those Laws which God gave them.

But they chose not to.





So, you partake of the Lord's supper, do you?

1Co 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

The ONLY place this practice is mentioned in scripture is here where Paul admonishes the Corinthians NOT TO DO IT.


Again; what is the context of the passage which you cited?



1 Corinthians 11:20-34

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord’s supper. 21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. 22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. 23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. 27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. 33 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. 34 And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.


What Paul was instructing the saints at Corinth here was to tarry and wait for one another when and as they were assembling to partake of the ordinance of the Lord's supper.

There were saints coming in hungry, and therefore were eating the bread before the other saints had assembled. And Paul was rebuking them for doing this.

 
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A big part of Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread is also eating un-leavened bread over the course of the week.

Exodus 12:15
"Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, but on the first day you shall
remove leaven from your houses"

So our family is just about done getting the yeast out, but now we are preparing to eat unleavened bread every day.

For those of you who have already de-leavened, what are you planning on doing to "eat un-leavened bread" this week?


One of my favorites anytime of year is barley cakes and hummus. I also like to make pita pockets with them too
 
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You should let Paul in on the secret...

Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

Paul was at Philipi for the Days of Unleavened Bread. Why not for Ishtar? Because they did not keep Ishtar, they kept Unleavened Bread.
the very fact that he was at philipi proves you again to be a false teacher.

after the days of unleavened bread; or the passover; which is mentioned only to observe the time of year when this voyage was taken; and not to suggest to us that Paul and his company stayed at Philippi, and kept this feast there; for the passover was only kept at Jerusalem

1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Paul says here to keep the Feast.
again, you have no intention of teaching correctly, but will be corrected again for those who do not understand.

Therefore let us keep the feast

the is not in the greek. paul said let us keep feast. this is a verb. keep feasting. all this talk of grasping the spiritual significance is bogus on your part.

the subject is not gentiles at corinth scouring their cupboards for yeast. the subject is what leaven signified: SIN.
the leaven they were to purge was the incestuous fornicator.
 
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This has everything to do with Passover, and finally Moses striking the rock for Israel to receive water.

Psalm 81
1 Sing aloud unto God our strength: make a joyful noise unto the God of Jacob.
2 Take a psalm, and bring hither the timbrel, the pleasant harp with the psaltery.
3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.
4 For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob.
5 This he ordained in Joseph for a testimony, when he went out through the land of Egypt: where I heard a language that I understood not.
6 I removed his shoulder from the burden: his hands were delivered from the pots.
7 Thou calledst in trouble, and I delivered thee; I answered thee in the secret place of thunder:
I proved thee at the waters of Meribah. Selah.
8 Hear , O my people, and I will testify unto thee: O Israel, if thou wilt hearken unto me;
9 There shall no strange god be in thee; neither shalt thou worship any strange god.
10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide , and I will fill it.
11 But my people would not hearken to my voice; and Israel would none of me.
12 So I gave them up unto their own hearts' lust: and they walked in their own counsels.
13 Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways!
14 I should soon have subdued their enemies , and turned my hand against their adversaries.
15 The haters of the LORD should have submitted themselves unto him: but their time should have endured for ever.
16 He should have fed them also with the finest of the wheat: and with honey out of the rock should I have satisfied thee.
 
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Have you thought about how silly all the arguing must seem to the Lord? God wanted us to be sure to understand and celebrate that Christ came. We are human and see things spiritual through how we relate it to what we see in our world. When he freed the Hebrews from slavery, he expected us to be able to relate that physical happening to the spiritual of Christ freeing us. People were to celebrate that it would happen in our time and world before it happened.

Then it happened. I am sure that God wanted us to celebrate that it happened, God gave a way to do that to reflect what happened spiritually. It was to be a party, God gave the plans for it. When God gave the Holy Spirit to all who believed in Him, God must have expected a more profound celebration, without the physical doing having no meaning. God also gave us holy communion, more celebration.

Here we are arguing about it, picking at each other not building each other up, pulling each scripture apart without even trying to see it from God's point of view.

We can't know how God is reacting to our childishness in this. We are made in His image. If God has man type reactions he must be wringing his hands over how we are acting.

I am sure there was disgust about men saying they knew a better way to celebrate than God did, when Easter was made into church law, that long, long time ago.
 

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Is that your final answer or do you need more time to edit? You keep the Passover. I does not. They Lent. I does not. Did you do that on purpose or were you just referring to yourself as I?

[SUP]8 [/SUP]And all these thy servants shall come down unto me, and bow down themselves unto me, saying, Get thee out, and all the people that follow thee: and after that I will go out. And he went out from Pharaoh in a great anger.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the Lord said unto Moses, Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you; that my wonders may be multiplied in the land of Egypt.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh: and the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go out of his land.


[SUP]35 [/SUP]And the children of Israel did according to the word of Moses; and they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment:

[SUP]36 [/SUP]And the Lord gave the people favour in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they lent unto them such things as they required. And they spoiled the Egyptians.




[SUP]2 [/SUP]This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the Lord's passover.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, """"" I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.""""""
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
You appear to have a problem, jag1977.

:)
 

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A big part of Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread is also eating un-leavened bread over the course of the week.

Exodus 12:15
"Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, but on the first day you shall
remove leaven from your houses"

So our family is just about done getting the yeast out, but now we are preparing to eat unleavened bread every day.

For those of you who have already de-leavened, what are you planning on doing to "eat un-leavened bread" this week?
After re-reading what I posted, I realized that it might have come across as confusing, so....

What will you be doing this week to eat from the Bread of Life that is without sin (leaven)?
 
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After re-reading what I posted, I realized that it might have come across as confusing, so....

What will you be doing this week to eat from the Bread of Life that is without sin (leaven)?
interesting retraction, in words.
are you planning to grow up with your actions (which are "confusing" people)?

Galatians 5
7 You were running well; who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8 This persuasion didnot come from Him who calls you. 9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough. 10 I have confidence [e]in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view; but the one who isdisturbing you will bear his judgment, whoever he is.
 
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Getting ready for Passover is spiritually cleansing as well as cleansing our abode. So many examples Messiah performed, such as cleansing the temple of moneychangers,for His Father, has a deeper meaning by way of observing and studying Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread. He was obedient unto death, our Savior.

YaH knew we are party animals, He created us. He knew we need ways to celebrate, and He gave us rich and meaningful Feasts of YHWH, His Feasts, His appointments. Nothing man can create will ever compare.
 
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An excellent thread by sister Least:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/89311-bible-verse-list-about-drinnking-cup.html

reminded me I wanted to look more carefully to what the 4 cups during Passover Seder represents.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

[SUP]5 [/SUP]Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
[SUP]6 [/SUP]To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;


chosen, holy and without blame before Him, accepted, redeemed.

This is from a teaching by Mark Biltz. I'm new to observing the Passover, and welcome other insights about what the 4 cups represent.:)
 
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This is from a teaching by Mark Biltz. I'm new to observing the Passover, and welcome other insights about what the 4 cups represent.:)
I'm fairly new at this too! Trying to follow the dates from Aviv onward keeps me busy each year.
I'm so used to the Gregorian calendar...I hope that one day it will be easier to keep up with the months and times (Biblical calendar) for the feasts. I have miscounted a few times...

I've never heard of the four cups. It sounds interesting. I'll have to Google Mark Blitz. :)
 
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