Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them

[Karraster]

I was talking about RITUALS, not FEASTS, like:
do I REALLY need to go look for stale pieces of bread all around the house to be a christian?
I don't think so.

What gives you the right to suggest I'm NOT a christian?
No offence, but if wisdom comes from fearing the Lord,
I'm probably smarter than you, bro.

Why are you posting on a thread with the title ??????????
[h=2]Re: Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them[/h]

If you don't celebrate them, why bully those who do? Who's judging who? Get over yourself..man.

 

[guestno2]

I was talking about RITUALS, not FEASTS, like:
do I really NEED to go look for stale pieces of bread all around the house to be a christian?
I don't think so.

What gives you the right to suggest I'm NOT a christian btw?
No offence, but if wisdom comes from fearing the Lord,
I'm probably smarter than you, bro.

Off topic
Lol, hahaha, dude, she is not bro, she is lady.. I mean woman, and more than twice your age.. haha you are doomed, you should probably apologize to her and move on.. This whole misunderstanding is age difference thing, it is not personal from her side, I think … be blessed

 

[MarkMulder]

Why are you posting on a thread with the title ??????????
Re: Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them



If you don't celebrate them, why bully those who do? Who's judging who? Get over yourself..man.

You started the "judging" by doubting my sincerity as a christian, remember?
I'm not bullying anyone, just giving my own opinion on the topic as a CHRISTIAN,
is that not allowed anymore?

Anywho, if that bothers you too much I will just leave your lil' thread, ok?
Carry on.

Thanks for the advice @guest2

 

[jkalyna]

You started the "judging" by doubting my sincerity as a christian, remember?
I'm not bullying anyone, just giving my own opinion on the topic as a CHRISTIAN,
is that not allowed anymore?

Anywho, if that bothers you too much I will just leave your lil' thread, ok?
Carry on.

A word of wisdom, your avatar is very attractive. I've noticed most of the comments that are a little angry are coming from women, there's a problem with this, and it is not you. Better not go into dark currents,

 

[RedTent]

It would be so uplifting if we did more of seeing the spiritual in all we do. Like going through the house looking for pieces of yeast. We could sit for hours thinking about cleansing ourselves of sin, but when we humans think of our acts as representing God's words to us, it makes it real. That poor guy who butts in here wouldn't be capable of seeing the spiritual truths represented in how he acts physically.

If you think about it, most of what we do has a spiritual dimension. Creating order in our physical house, and creating order in our spiritual house, feeding our physical body as it relates to feeding out spiritual body, feeding our minds with books and TV about sin and feeding our minds with the good of the Lord.

 

[royalscot]

There is an interesting study on CC about Elijah, a Jew. He was not to eat with a gentile, according to the synagogue, or to eat any unclean foods. Yet when he was hiding from Jezebel so she wouldn't kill him, He was fed by an unclean bird. Then he went to a gentile widow who fed him and lived in Phoenicia a gentile nation, then Elijah resurrected a gentile boy. This is just one time scripture tells us of God being a God of the gentiles who used the Jews to explain Himself to us. And you say God is only for the Jews? I don't think so.

this is fact , the restriction in exod 12, are clear. acts 15 say there is a difference between jew and gentile.(in the law of moses) yet I, backed it up, with scripture. and the meeting in acts 15 happened after penticost. so you, can think what you want.

 

[KohenMatt]

3 weeks away.....Have you gotten the leaven our of your house? Our of your hearts? Are you ready celebrate God's mark on your life and his merciful salvation?

Our church will be having a seder/dinner of about 130 people. There will be some community readings, but we will have individual table leaders going through most of the seder so that people can feel free to ask any questions they'd like.
Food this year? Lamb shish-kabobs!

Matt

 

[john832]

this is fact , the restriction in exod 12, are clear. acts 15 say there is a difference between jew and gentile.(in the law of moses) yet I, backed it up, with scripture. and the meeting in acts 15 happened after penticost. so you, can think what you want.

A difference concerning God's Feast Days? Why then is Paul exhorting a Gentile church in a Gentile city to keep the Feast?

1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

 

[Selihah]

I was talking about RITUALS, not FEASTS, like:
do I really NEED to go look for stale pieces of bread all around the house to be a christian?
I don't think so.

What gives you the right to suggest I'm NOT a christian btw?
No offence, but if wisdom comes from fearing the Lord,
I'm probably smarter than you, bro.

I think I understand what you are driving at Mark. But one of the things to do during Hag Hamatzot is to not let any leaven be found in your house. I understand that commandmennt as being part of the remembrance of the haste in which Israel and the multitude that went with them had to flee Egypt.

Furthermore I see no problem in establishing a 'tradition' of how one goes about getting rid of the leaven. Me, I simply take get it off my property a few days before with little or no fanfare. Others may want to get the whole familly involved and make it a funand teachable moment, especially for children. Personally I see absolutley nothing wrong with tradition in so far that it doesn't add or diminish from the meaninng or context of the commandment.

So lighten up Frances and have fun.

 

[just-me]

this is fact , the restriction in exod 12, are clear. acts 15 say there is a difference between jew and gentile.(in the law of moses) yet I, backed it up, with scripture. and the meeting in acts 15 happened after penticost. so you, can think what you want.

the Jew and the Gentile in the law. Good that we notice.

Exodus 12:48-49 (KJV)
[SUP]48 [/SUP]And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.
[SUP]49 [/SUP]One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Leviticus 24:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.

 

[RedTent]

this is fact , the restriction in exod 12, are clear. acts 15 say there is a difference between jew and gentile.(in the law of moses) yet I, backed it up, with scripture. and the meeting in acts 15 happened after penticost. so you, can think what you want.

I am not interested in what you and I think, I am interested in what God thinks. Scripture talks of "the stranger among us" often in the OT, and we are the stranger among the Jews. When that stranger accepted God, then the Jews were to accept them. Scripture makes it clear through the bible that we are included. "I" don't think it, I am only one of millions of God's creation, Scripture tells us God thinks it.

In our day, we talk about the current event that affects us. We have had many ways we describe it. I remember when "the old war" meant lots of things. In Paul's day the current event was that the Jews wanted gentiles to become Jews to be accepted by God, they had two names for that. One was "Law of Moses" and the other was "circumcision". They wouldn't have known what we meant by cold war, but we have history to tell us what "Law of Moses" meant. Otherwise, we would have to think that Paul opposed God's and Christ's word. We would have to rewrite a good part of the NT to get the OT out of it.

 

[royalscot]

I am not interested in what you and I think, I am interested in what God thinks. Scripture talks of "the stranger among us" often in the OT, and we are the stranger among the Jews. When that stranger accepted God, then the Jews were to accept them. Scripture makes it clear through the bible that we are included. "I" don't think it, I am only one of millions of God's creation, Scripture tells us God thinks it.

In our day, we talk about the current event that affects us. We have had many ways we describe it. I remember when "the old war" meant lots of things. In Paul's day the current event was that the Jews wanted gentiles to become Jews to be accepted by God, they had two names for that. One was "Law of Moses" and the other was "circumcision". They wouldn't have known what we meant by cold war, but we have history to tell us what "Law of Moses" meant. Otherwise, we would have to think that Paul opposed God's and Christ's word. We would have to rewrite a good part of the NT to get the OT out of it.

the bible is full of truth. must be a fundamental flaw to understanding fresh air. but since you comment on my post in the first place , and this forum is about Passover celebration etc . our current events have no bairing, to what the bible says. and the bible quotes I quoted, are scripture truth. not wrote by me. so spiritual love shows it foundation by(your quote) I am not interested in what you and I think. that I agree with, since I never wrote exodus or acts.

 

[just-me]

this is fact , the restriction in exod 12, are clear. acts 15 say there is a difference between jew and gentile.(in the law of moses) yet I, backed it up, with scripture. and the meeting in acts 15 happened after penticost. so you, can think what you want.

I'm curious. What is the restriction in Exodus chapter 12, if you wouldn't mind quoting from that particular chapter?

 

[royalscot]

curious , since you quoted, most of the bible against anything I said. I would have thought a man of your understanding, would know the difference between a jew and a gentile believer. evidently I must have been mistaken. if you like to reread , you will find why I quoted them. 2 quotes against , your many.

 

[just-me]

curious , since you quoted, most of the bible against anything I said. I would have thought a man of your understanding, would know the difference between a jew and a gentile believer. evidently I must have been mistaken. if you like to reread , you will find why I quoted them. 2 quotes against , your many.

It's all God's word. If it seems to be contradictory, then us humans have it wrong somewhere. I was looking so forward to being edified with Exodus chapter 12. Harumph May GBU richly.

 

[royalscot]

It's all God's word. If it seems to be contradictory, then us humans have it wrong somewhere. I was looking so forward to being edified with Exodus chapter 12. Harumph May GBU richly.

it don't contradict , you need to dig up roots. seek and you will find. the word of god has to find root. if you cant see, the birth of a jewish people, in exodus, to the time of jesus, to the change, that happens in acts,(even they were confused to what should be done concerning jew and gentiles.)and by the 2 quote I made, in my humble opinion, is why there was much debate over cercumsied and law. but don't change the fact these feasts have jewish origin, (and why the lord put a restriction to the Passover) and how god got them out of Egypt. because of the new covenant. the fact that a gentile believer believes in a risen jesus, easter is the closest thing we have to celebrating our saviour. even if some call it a pagon feast.

 

[KohenMatt]

Matthew 5:17-19

"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

 

[Karraster]

it don't contradict , you need to dig up roots. seek and you will find. the word of god has to find root. if you cant see, the birth of a jewish people, in exodus, to the time of jesus, to the change, that happens in acts,(even they were confused to what should be done concerning jew and gentiles.)and by the 2 quote I made, in my humble opinion, is why there was much debate over cercumsied and law. but don't change the fact these feasts have jewish origin, (and why the lord put a restriction to the Passover) and how god got them out of Egypt. because of the new covenant. the fact that a gentile believer believes in a risen jesus, easter is the closest thing we have to celebrating our saviour. even if some call it a pagon feast.

Easter has "roots"..and it ain't in Messiah!

 

[just-me]

it don't contradict , you need to dig up roots. seek and you will find. the word of god has to find root. if you cant see, the birth of a jewish people, in exodus, to the time of jesus, to the change, that happens in acts,(even they were confused to what should be done concerning jew and gentiles.)and by the 2 quote I made, in my humble opinion, is why there was much debate over cercumsied and law. but don't change the fact these feasts have jewish origin, (and why the lord put a restriction to the Passover) and how god got them out of Egypt. because of the new covenant. the fact that a gentile believer believes in a risen jesus, easter is the closest thing we have to celebrating our saviour. even if some call it a pagon feast.

Speaking of Acts, and Pentecost and all, did you know that Moses went up on Mount Sinai to receive the stone tablets the same day that the Comforter came recorded after Jesus' ascension. Ain't that amazing? Would you say that's coincidental? I think Pentecost, and Shavot are exactly the same.

 

[royalscot]

Speaking of Acts, and Pentecost and all, did you know that Moses went up on Mount Sinai to receive the stone tablets the same day that the Comforter came recorded after Jesus' ascension. Ain't that amazing? Would you say that's coincidental? I think Pentecost, and Shavot are exactly the same.

and the lord said to moses and arron, the restriction to be put in place.(hello) however moses and arron were not at penticost,(god must be want his plan to go some ware)
a law being put in place,( the birth of a jewish nation)
to a law being forfilled (the life of jesus)
to a new covenant. (Hebrews) (the birth of a gentile christain.)a
jew and a jewish christain are different because of what jesus did.
a gentile christain is different because of this meeting in acts. they could have , said gentile should do the same as law given to moses. (to keep it short)

jesus s had his last supper, but also was arrested in the same evening, telling judus to go etc it was this law that moses was given they tried to find charge. and could not find any charge. etc ( father forgive them they don't know what they do.) so penticost has more value because it proves that death is not the end. and god now lives in the heart and minds of a believer.
but the bibles story, makes straight paths, through history of creation. (showing god plan)

if there both the same brother ( why did jesus have to die), why send the holy spirit. at and after penticost, we could have got the holy spirit like jesus , when he had water baptised. this way we get to see the eternal plan. not just to remember these festival every year.
peter said baptise cornelious in the name of jesus. (water) so the bigger(gods) plan must , have had gentiles in mind too.
he could have kept animal sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. or he was rescuing the people of the world of certain death , adam and eve. the joy of faith and truth,( it can take us to fresh air in our minds ) the double edge sword. lol