Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them

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john832

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easter is the closest thing we have to celebrating our saviour. even if some call it a pagon feast.
No, not even close, here is the the Feast that predicted the risen Savior presenting Himself to the Father as the perfect sacrifice...

Lev 23:9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Lev 23:12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
Lev 23:14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

This always occurs on a Sunday and in the Passover week of 31AD occured on the morning after the resurrection.
 
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Karraster

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and the lord said to moses and arron, the restriction to be put in place.(hello) however moses and arron were not at penticost,(god must be want his plan to go some ware)
a law being put in place,( the birth of a jewish nation)
to a law being forfilled (the life of jesus)
to a new covenant. (Hebrews) (the birth of a gentile christain.)a
jew and a jewish christain are different because of what jesus did.
a gentile christain is different because of this meeting in acts. they could have , said gentile should do the same as law given to moses. (to keep it short)

jesus s had his last supper, but also was arrested in the same evening, telling judus to go etc it was this law that moses was given they tried to find charge. and could not find any charge. etc ( father forgive them they don't know what they do.) so penticost has more value because it proves that death is not the end. and god now lives in the heart and minds of a believer.
but the bibles story, makes straight paths, through history of creation. (showing god plan)

if there both the same brother ( why did jesus have to die), why send the holy spirit. at and after penticost, we could have got the holy spirit like jesus , when he had water baptised. this way we get to see the eternal plan. not just to remember these festival every year.
peter said baptise cornelious in the name of jesus. (water) so the bigger(gods) plan must , have had gentiles in mind too.
he could have kept animal sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. or he was rescuing the people of the world of certain death , adam and eve. the joy of faith and truth,( it can take us to fresh air in our minds ) the double edge sword. lol
The truth is...we are supposed to be watching. Do you want to be a child of the light (knowledge and truth) or a child of darkness? (deception and ignorance) The Feasts are God's appointments, not Easter, not Christmas, not your momma's birthday.
The Day of the Lord

(Zephaniah 1:7-18; 2 Peter 3:10-13)
1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
 
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animal sacrifice for forgiveness, you will find it was jesus who forfilled it.(the law) Passover of the angel of death and and what jesus did are two different storys. again this Passover in dut 12 has a restriction. for non jewish people.
I don't even see Deuteronomy 12 mentioning Passover or the feast of unleavened bread. Maybe you meant Exodus.

I ask again, what is the restriction that Exodus 12 presents? Please quote from Acts also if you wouldn't mind being redundant for me. Is not the escape from captivity likened unto the escape from sin? The carnal mind would look at what God gave during that time all as temple worship with animal's blood. They can't see the divine relationship.

John 1:29-30 (KJV)

[SUP]29 [/SUP]The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

Doesn't John the baptist put the relationship of Jesus and the Passover/lamb together very well when he "looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!"? John 1:35

Revelation 7:9-10 (KJV)

[SUP]9 [/SUP]After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
 
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You keep misspelling it. It is spelled I-S-H-T-A-R and pronounced just as you misspelled it.
fertility goddess. I think that's where the bunnies and eggs come in because by nature they are the most prolific. But isn't that for children though? NOT! Passover is not sex education.
 
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this is fact , the restriction in exod 12, are clear. acts 15 say there is a difference between jew and gentile.(in the law of moses) yet I, backed it up, with scripture. and the meeting in acts 15 happened after penticost. so you, can think what you want.
This is also fact that Acts 15:21 indicated gentile believers are to learn the whole Law once they are accepted into the fold.
It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.

This is also fact that some prefer to celebrate Easter, which is never taught in the bible and in fact spoken against, to Passover, which is to commemorate salvation, for the Jews out of Egypt which is a type for His people out of the bondage of sin, for the Jews by the blood of the lamb which is a type for the blood of the Lamb.
The multitudes who came out of Egypt wanted no restriction and had big influence on the Jews is a type to the unbelieving world which, through His blood, has been freed from the bondage of sin but chooses to stay in sin and has big influence on believers.
At the end only 2 of that generation was able to enter the promised land is a type to the narrow is the way.
Of course, you can think what you want.
 
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Karraster

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You keep misspelling it. It is spelled I-S-H-T-A-R and pronounced just as you misspelled it.
Quite right. sorry....anyways, I am never dying another egg! Also, I regret very much that I was ignorant of the pagan roots of that horrible holiday, and that I raised my kids in ignorance too. I am making amends for the rest of my life, however long that is.

It's really creepy how Satan disguises himself, weaves and insinuates himself into virtually every aspect of life. To think, things Christians "celebrate" that have nothing to do with Messiah. To learn that the Feasts of the LORD are rehearsals, then it is not a stretch to consider pagan holidays like Christmas and E.....are rehearsals for ...I shudder to think.
 

TheAristocat

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For those of you who are blessed by celebrating Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Passover starts the night of Monday, April 14th (depending on the calendar you use).

It might not be a bad time to start looking through the house to see what you need to get rid of.

More importantly, it's a great time to start looking through your life to see what you need to get rid of.
And maybe more importantly, its a great time to start looking for ways to add the "unleavened bread" of Messiah into your life.

Looking forward to another awesome season of God's special days!
Matt
I'll try posting a link to this thread in the Messianic Jewish Believers group. I think I'm going to have to hurry my butt up and order some matzah online as there is nearly no unleavened bread here in China. It's even difficult to find good western bread.
 

TheAristocat

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Observing the festivals certainly does add to my life. I remember celebrating Sukhot once in Michigan (not exactly the greatest place for it, especially since it should be observed in Jerusalem I believe). But it was interesting sleeping under the stars, narrowly avoiding the freezing rain, falling asleep listening to all the wild life, waking up with the sunrise and the frost on the end of my sleeping bag...

I'd definitely like to get some peanut butter and nutella for my matzah this time, but I'll have to double check on the ingredients. Leavening and yeast show up in the strangest places these days.
 
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and the lord said to moses and arron, the restriction to be put in place.(hello) however moses and arron were not at penticost,(god must be want his plan to go some ware)
a law being put in place,( the birth of a jewish nation)
to a law being forfilled (the life of jesus)
to a new covenant. (Hebrews) (the birth of a gentile christain.)a
jew and a jewish christain are different because of what jesus did.
a gentile christain is different because of this meeting in acts. they could have , said gentile should do the same as law given to moses. (to keep it short)

jesus s had his last supper, but also was arrested in the same evening, telling judus to go etc it was this law that moses was given they tried to find charge. and could not find any charge. etc ( father forgive them they don't know what they do.) so penticost has more value because it proves that death is not the end. and god now lives in the heart and minds of a believer.
but the bibles story, makes straight paths, through history of creation. (showing god plan)

if there both the same brother ( why did jesus have to die), why send the holy spirit. at and after penticost, we could have got the holy spirit like jesus , when he had water baptised. this way we get to see the eternal plan. not just to remember these festival every year.
peter said baptise cornelious in the name of jesus. (water) so the bigger(gods) plan must , have had gentiles in mind too.
he could have kept animal sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. or he was rescuing the people of the world of certain death , adam and eve. the joy of faith and truth,( it can take us to fresh air in our minds ) the double edge sword. lol
If we didn't have what came before the fulfillment in Christ, we would have no idea all of what was fulfilled. "The end of the law" should be seen as a finishing process including the beginning. The foundation of a house is not the same as the shingles, because they are different materials. Nevertheless, how can one build a house without a foundation that was once there and all of a sudden it vanishes when the first nail is pounded into the finished work?

Speaking of the double edged sword, why do you think that there is 2 edges on one product? Meditation time. Selah.
 

KohenMatt

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Observing the festivals certainly does add to my life. I remember celebrating Sukhot once in Michigan (not exactly the greatest place for it, especially since it should be observed in Jerusalem I believe). But it was interesting sleeping under the stars, narrowly avoiding the freezing rain, falling asleep listening to all the wild life, waking up with the sunrise and the frost on the end of my sleeping bag...

I'd definitely like to get some peanut butter and nutella for my matzah this time, but I'll have to double check on the ingredients. Leavening and yeast show up in the strangest places these days.
I'm in Colorado, so I know what you mean about the cold. We have 4 small kids which makes it even more interseting.
Sukkot is in mid October this year. Going to be cold, but awesome.

It's great to hear about your experiences.
Matt
 

john832

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Quite right. sorry....anyways, I am never dying another egg! Also, I regret very much that I was ignorant of the pagan roots of that horrible holiday, and that I raised my kids in ignorance too. I am making amends for the rest of my life, however long that is.

It's really creepy how Satan disguises himself, weaves and insinuates himself into virtually every aspect of life. To think, things Christians "celebrate" that have nothing to do with Messiah. To learn that the Feasts of the LORD are rehearsals, then it is not a stretch to consider pagan holidays like Christmas and E.....are rehearsals for ...I shudder to think.
Don't beat yourself up too much. We are called to repentance, not pennance. Big difference. One repents, is forgiven and goes on with obeying God.

Something else I have noticed is that God's Feasts begin in the spring and continue during the sunny and bright time of the year. Now, who's holidays begin with all saints day and continue through winter?
 

john832

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Observing the festivals certainly does add to my life. I remember celebrating Sukhot once in Michigan (not exactly the greatest place for it, especially since it should be observed in Jerusalem I believe). But it was interesting sleeping under the stars, narrowly avoiding the freezing rain, falling asleep listening to all the wild life, waking up with the sunrise and the frost on the end of my sleeping bag...I'd definitely like to get some peanut butter and nutella for my matzah this time, but I'll have to double check on the ingredients. Leavening and yeast show up in the strangest places these days.
Unleavened Bread Recipes - COGWA Members
 

john832

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I'm in Colorado, so I know what you mean about the cold. We have 4 small kids which makes it even more interseting.Sukkot is in mid October this year. Going to be cold, but awesome.It's great to hear about your experiences.Matt
Went to Sheboygan for Tabernacles in 2013. Weather was great. Might be a little colder this year.
 
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This is how I celebrate the Passover and what it stood for:

And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said Take eat: for this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he too the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cut is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lords' death till he come.
1 Cor. 11:24-26
 
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chubbena

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I'll try posting a link to this thread in the Messianic Jewish Believers group. I think I'm going to have to hurry my butt up and order some matzah online as there is nearly no unleavened bread here in China. It's even difficult to find good western bread.
You're in China? There should be tons of flat bread there though they are not called matzah.
 
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chubbena

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This is how I celebrate the Passover and what it stood for:

And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said Take eat: for this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he too the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cut is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lords' death till he come.
1 Cor. 11:24-26
Guess that's how you celebrate Easter eh? Just asking. No offense.
 
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This is how I celebrate the Passover and what it stood for:

And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said Take eat: for this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he too the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cut is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lords' death till he come.
1 Cor. 11:24-26
As you can see I liked what you wrote.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/87836-comparing-feasts-christ.html

You might be interested in post # 11
 
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I don't even see Deuteronomy 12 mentioning Passover or the feast of unleavened bread. Maybe you meant Exodus.

I ask again, what is the restriction that Exodus 12 presents? Please quote from Acts also if you wouldn't mind being redundant for me. Is not the escape from captivity likened unto the escape from sin? The carnal mind would look at what God gave during that time all as temple worship with animal's blood. They can't see the divine relationship.

John 1:29-30 (KJV)

[SUP]29 [/SUP]The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

Doesn't John the baptist put the relationship of Jesus and the Passover/lamb together very well when he "looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!"? John 1:35

Revelation 7:9-10 (KJV)

[SUP]9 [/SUP]After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb

john is taking to a jewish people. and if you think a man is the same as a lamb, then you have mist the metaphor.
jesus and john were sent to a jewish people' revelations is a metaphor book,( can it be quoted as read, or gives hidden meaning. so since you again have total disregard to my last post and back tracked, to pick fault. two quotes exodus and acts 15 . the men at this meeting are responsible for most of the new testament going to print. take it up with them. its evident the metaphor of lamb of god, and jesus Christ and jew and gentile have gave way to back tracking. the lord said to moses and arron these are the restrictions to the Passover. read if and you will find the restrictions .

john 832 I would worry more about the yeast of the Pharisee, to your quote 1cor, and the lamb and jesus Christ I would say understand the metaphor.

a new covent.

means change. how that changed, ask the lamb of god.

anyway 2 quotes , about Passover celebration. feel free to take these quotes, and take the up with the writer of these books. after all you can pray the same as me. and the wonderful councillor, may open all our eyes.





 
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john is taking to a jewish people. and if you think a man is the same as a lamb, then you have mist the metaphor.
jesus and john were sent to a jewish people' revelations is a metaphor book,( can it be quoted as read, or gives hidden meaning. so since you again have total disregard to my last post and back tracked, to pick fault. two quotes exodus and acts 15 . the men at this meeting are responsible for most of the new testament going to print. take it up with them. its evident the metaphor of lamb of god, and jesus Christ and jew and gentile have gave way to back tracking. the lord said to moses and arron these are the restrictions to the Passover. read if and you will find the restrictions .

john 832 I would worry more about the yeast of the Pharisee, to your quote 1cor, and the lamb and jesus Christ I would say understand the metaphor.

a new covent.

means change. how that changed, ask the lamb of god.

anyway 2 quotes , about Passover celebration. feel free to take these quotes, and take the up with the writer of these books. after all you can pray the same as me. and the wonderful councillor, may open all our eyes.

So do you think what John said is not relevant to the Gentile?

Romans 10:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

O ya, I forgot, when Paul was in Rome He was talking to the Jew also. I'l quote some more scripture.
Let's see... Oh Ya, Jesus was a Jew too. That rhymes. LOL

1 Corinthians 1:22-24 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
[SUP]24 [/SUP]But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Galatians 3:28 (KJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

I'll repeat some of the old Testament

Exodus 12:49 (KJV)
[SUP]49 [/SUP]One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Jesus taught the old Testament ya know.

Hebrews 9:15-18 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

John 1:36 (KJV)
[SUP]36 [/SUP]And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

The sacrifice of Christ is law.
 
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