I see a lot of confusion today.
Many confuse or obfuscate the teaching of the cessation of sin with that of being perfect in the flesh.
Joh_8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
1Pe 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
1Pe 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
The cessation of sin IS NOT perfection in the flesh. The cessation of sin is simply the cessation of REBELLION to God.
The issue is very simple.
A true Christian has been reconciled to God and is NO LONGER in rebellion.
Anyone who is in rebellion to God is not in a reconciled state to God.
The "perfection in the flesh" strawman is just that, A STRAWMAN.
The cessation of rebellion has NOTHING to do with perfection. The cessation of rebellion HAS EVERYTHING to do with a departure from iniquity. True Christian's no longer walk their own way in defiance of the will of God, they are in submission to the will of God having been truly broken on the rock of Christ in through a genuine repentance experience.
All false theologies make an allowance for the continuation of rebellion whilst being at the same time in a justified state. There is NO REBELLION in justification. The moment one is in rebellion is the moment one is not justified.
Grace is not a license to sin which means grace is not a cloak for rebellion. We may fall short of the glory of God IN IGNORANCE and thus may not respond to circumstances perfectly or with the best wisdom. We might worry when we ought not, we might be impatient, we may misspeak, we may misjudge, we may be overzealous, we may prioritise wrong, but these things are not rooted in iniquity if one has a pure heart set on God. Thus there is such a thing as non-presumptuous sin (Num 15). When we do these things we have an advocate with the Father (1Joh 2:1).
Then there are the sins of the flesh which are these...
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Those things are out of the question for a true follower of Christ and that is why Paul WARNED the Church about those things and told them NOT TO BE DECEIVED. If you do those things you are not going to enter the kingdom not withstanding that heresy of a judicial substitution which is often used to CLOAK the above works of the flesh.
A Christian has CRUCIFIED their flesh with the passions and desires and NO LONGER walks according to those passions and desires. Instead they walk in SUBMISSION to the Spirit and thus don't fulfill the lusts of the flesh.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
It is so simple. Paul laid it out so clearly in his writings.
Paul said this...
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
There are two choices. 1. You Walk after the flesh and fulfill the lusts of the flesh, or 2. You walk after the Spirit as a child of God grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ.
If you are walking after the Spirit then you are adding to your faith as Peter taught and are in the PROCESS of being perfected (2Pet 1:3-11, Eph 4:11-13).
The lying wolves in the pulpits don't teach their congregations this. They teach that salvation is simply found in "trusting in the finished word of Christ' APART FROM ANYTHING YOU DO. Thus they TRULY BELIEVE that YOU CAN BE living according to the lusts of the flesh and be saved at the very same time, this is a LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL.
They teach that salvation is a mere ABSTRACT IDENTITY you possess APART FROM RIGHTEOUSNESS BEING MANIFESTED THROUGH YOU and thus the FRUIT of your life DOES NOT have to MATCH your identity in Christ. Thus ongoing rebellion is a mere identity problem instead of a lack of a "repentance unto salvation" problem. What these people teach is pure heresy and the Bible CLEARLY refutes these liars.
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
If you are not a DOER of righteousness then YOU ARE NOT a child of God. It is that simple.
Jesus plainly taught that WHAT YOU DO makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE as to whether you are going to enter the kingdom or not.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Yet so many people do not believe the plain words of Jesus. They cling to a false lying and damnable theology which gives them comfort in their rebellion as they attempt to serve too masters due to being unwilling to truly repent and crucify themselves with Christ. They love their sin too much and don't want to deny themselves, pick up their crosses and actually follow Jesus.
It is these people that Jesus was speaking of when He said...
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
MANY, SO MANY. There is a MULTITUDE of these people. These people are going to be SHOCKED to discover that they are REJECTED. They professed His name, taught in His name, they did works in His name, they even cast out devils in His name. Yet Jesus NEVER KNEW THEM because they NEVER TRULY CAME TO HIM BROKEN IN REPENTANCE. They NEVER FORSOOK the things of the world, they REMAINED WORKERS OF INIQUITY.
Don't be one of them!
Jesus taught....
Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Here is an example of a lying wolf dressed in the clothing of a lamb who is tickling the ears of his unwitting audience...
In Christ you are forgiven - YouTube
His entire foundation is premised on the PENAL SUBSTITUTION LIE which teaches that Jesus swaps track records with you. By clear implication you can go out and murder someone, under this doctrine, and you would be ALREADY FORGIVEN. Yet alone lie, cheat, steal or be a sports idolator etc. What kind of nonsense is this? Why is it that so many believe it? Jesus NEVER taught ANY SUCH THING ANYWHERE!!!
The Bible says this...
Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Yet this wolf will never point to that Scripture. Instead he twists the verses on chastisement as applying to rebellion in a context of still being in a justified state (ie. your future sins are forgiven). Yet the Bible states this...
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
The man in the above video clip is an example of these...
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
So who is the deceiver? The one who preaches a Gospel which is a cloak for ongoing rebellion?
Or is it me who is telling you to depart from iniquity and be reconciled to God through the shed blood of Jesus Christ which one accesses through repentance and faith?
It's your decision!
Penal Substitution Doctrine
1. The Penal Substitution doctrine is only 400 years old. It is a development of the Satisfaction Model of the Atonement which was first proposed by Anselm in the 1tth Century. The Reformers added a judicial element to the Satisfaction Model whereby they taught that Jesus was literally PUNISHED by God and thus bore the wrath due the sinner. This is where the FUTURE forgiveness of sins really first began to take hold due it being a logical necessity of this doctrine. The Bible clearly teaches that PAST SINS are forgiven in Christ, not future rebellion (Rom 3:25). In fact there is no sacrifice for continued rebellion (Heb 10:26-29).
Read the history of this doctrine. The early Church NEVER TAUGHT IT. Yet SO MANY blindly believe it.
Penal substitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2. Penal Substitution denies that God forgives sins. It teaches that sin is a literal transferable property and that God transferred sin to an innocent (Christ) and then punished Him in the place of the sinner. It was through this act that God's wrath was appeased and thus the sin debt was paid. Thus sins are not freely forgiven they are instead transferred and still punished. It is true that Jesus BORE our sins and that Jesus was an appeasement offering but not in the sense of a Judicial Penal Substitution. Judicial Penal Substitution is Reformed Heresy.
3. Penal Substitution logically concludes that salvation is purely forensic and that unconditional eternal security is true. Penal Substitution serves to redefine salvation as a mere book-keeping entry where the problem between God and man is rectified through a legal transaction as opposed to repentance and faith. Repentance and faith deal with the root issue of sin, ie. the actual motivation for rebellion and is dealt with once and for all. Penal Substitution removes this aspect from the reconciliation process completely and the result is that iniquity remains in the heart.
Due to the "penalty being paid" under Penal Substitution it cannot be "made due again" thus if it has been paid for on your behalf then there is no sin you can do which would forfeit your right standing before God (which is what the wolves commonly teach) which practically implies that you now have a license to sin. This license to sin is often covered up by alluding that "you SHOULD NOT sin." Thus the cessation of sin is relegated as OPTIONAL because in the mind salvation is merely forensic in nature and is totally disconnected from the deeds done in the body.
4. Penal Substitution completely negates the release from the bondage of sin. Under Penal Substitution salvation is merely "being set free from condemnation" as opposed to "being set free from condemnation and bondage." Penal Substitution gives people a false assurance of salvation whilst they remain in bondage to their sins. That is why those beholden to this error take so much offense to the message of "go and sin no more" because in their minds "going and sinning no more" has NOTHING to do with salvation, to them that would be "adding to the finished work of Christ on the cross" (ie. adding to the Penal Substitution). To imply that "going and sinning no more" is related to "being saved" is basically a direct attack upon their assurance of salvation. Thus another dangerous fruit of this doctrine is revealed and that is that this "assurance" serves as an ANTIDOTE to the TRUTH. The true Gospel of repentance proven by deeds and how it connects with an obedient trusting faith in Jesus Christ is then rejected in the mind.
5. Penal Substitution logically necessitates that Jesus died for only those who would be saved. Hence the atonement must be limited under this system. If Penal Substitution is true then Jesus could not have "paid the price" for all men because if He did then universal salvation would be true. For those who hold to Penal Substitution, to deny this would mean that they believe God pours out His wrath for the same sins twice, which in turn would deny their eternal security doctrine. The logical outcome of the Penal Substitution doctrine is that Jesus died ONLY for the elect because if He died for everyone then everyone would be saved. The Reformers rejected universalism and therefore held to the Limited Atonement view (L in TULIP).
6. If the sins of all men were literally transferred to the account of Jesus then He would not have been without spot. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus offered Himself without spot to God. If Penal Substitution is true then Jesus was spotted with sin when He offered Himself.
Being IN CHRIST means we are walking after the Spirit. There is nothing ABSTRACT about it. It is not a provisional identity like the wolf in the clip above is teaching.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
2Co 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
Paul WAS CRUCIFIED in Christ and that means that the WILL OF PAUL was in SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF GOD.
We know that we are IN HIM if we are YIELDING TO HIM.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Don't let these wolves deceive you.
God bless.
Many confuse or obfuscate the teaching of the cessation of sin with that of being perfect in the flesh.
Joh_8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
1Pe 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
1Pe 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
The cessation of sin IS NOT perfection in the flesh. The cessation of sin is simply the cessation of REBELLION to God.
The issue is very simple.
A true Christian has been reconciled to God and is NO LONGER in rebellion.
Anyone who is in rebellion to God is not in a reconciled state to God.
The "perfection in the flesh" strawman is just that, A STRAWMAN.
The cessation of rebellion has NOTHING to do with perfection. The cessation of rebellion HAS EVERYTHING to do with a departure from iniquity. True Christian's no longer walk their own way in defiance of the will of God, they are in submission to the will of God having been truly broken on the rock of Christ in through a genuine repentance experience.
All false theologies make an allowance for the continuation of rebellion whilst being at the same time in a justified state. There is NO REBELLION in justification. The moment one is in rebellion is the moment one is not justified.
Grace is not a license to sin which means grace is not a cloak for rebellion. We may fall short of the glory of God IN IGNORANCE and thus may not respond to circumstances perfectly or with the best wisdom. We might worry when we ought not, we might be impatient, we may misspeak, we may misjudge, we may be overzealous, we may prioritise wrong, but these things are not rooted in iniquity if one has a pure heart set on God. Thus there is such a thing as non-presumptuous sin (Num 15). When we do these things we have an advocate with the Father (1Joh 2:1).
Then there are the sins of the flesh which are these...
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Those things are out of the question for a true follower of Christ and that is why Paul WARNED the Church about those things and told them NOT TO BE DECEIVED. If you do those things you are not going to enter the kingdom not withstanding that heresy of a judicial substitution which is often used to CLOAK the above works of the flesh.
A Christian has CRUCIFIED their flesh with the passions and desires and NO LONGER walks according to those passions and desires. Instead they walk in SUBMISSION to the Spirit and thus don't fulfill the lusts of the flesh.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
It is so simple. Paul laid it out so clearly in his writings.
Paul said this...
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
There are two choices. 1. You Walk after the flesh and fulfill the lusts of the flesh, or 2. You walk after the Spirit as a child of God grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ.
If you are walking after the Spirit then you are adding to your faith as Peter taught and are in the PROCESS of being perfected (2Pet 1:3-11, Eph 4:11-13).
The lying wolves in the pulpits don't teach their congregations this. They teach that salvation is simply found in "trusting in the finished word of Christ' APART FROM ANYTHING YOU DO. Thus they TRULY BELIEVE that YOU CAN BE living according to the lusts of the flesh and be saved at the very same time, this is a LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL.
They teach that salvation is a mere ABSTRACT IDENTITY you possess APART FROM RIGHTEOUSNESS BEING MANIFESTED THROUGH YOU and thus the FRUIT of your life DOES NOT have to MATCH your identity in Christ. Thus ongoing rebellion is a mere identity problem instead of a lack of a "repentance unto salvation" problem. What these people teach is pure heresy and the Bible CLEARLY refutes these liars.
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
If you are not a DOER of righteousness then YOU ARE NOT a child of God. It is that simple.
Jesus plainly taught that WHAT YOU DO makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE as to whether you are going to enter the kingdom or not.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Yet so many people do not believe the plain words of Jesus. They cling to a false lying and damnable theology which gives them comfort in their rebellion as they attempt to serve too masters due to being unwilling to truly repent and crucify themselves with Christ. They love their sin too much and don't want to deny themselves, pick up their crosses and actually follow Jesus.
It is these people that Jesus was speaking of when He said...
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
MANY, SO MANY. There is a MULTITUDE of these people. These people are going to be SHOCKED to discover that they are REJECTED. They professed His name, taught in His name, they did works in His name, they even cast out devils in His name. Yet Jesus NEVER KNEW THEM because they NEVER TRULY CAME TO HIM BROKEN IN REPENTANCE. They NEVER FORSOOK the things of the world, they REMAINED WORKERS OF INIQUITY.
Don't be one of them!
Jesus taught....
Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Here is an example of a lying wolf dressed in the clothing of a lamb who is tickling the ears of his unwitting audience...
In Christ you are forgiven - YouTube
His entire foundation is premised on the PENAL SUBSTITUTION LIE which teaches that Jesus swaps track records with you. By clear implication you can go out and murder someone, under this doctrine, and you would be ALREADY FORGIVEN. Yet alone lie, cheat, steal or be a sports idolator etc. What kind of nonsense is this? Why is it that so many believe it? Jesus NEVER taught ANY SUCH THING ANYWHERE!!!
The Bible says this...
Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Yet this wolf will never point to that Scripture. Instead he twists the verses on chastisement as applying to rebellion in a context of still being in a justified state (ie. your future sins are forgiven). Yet the Bible states this...
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
The man in the above video clip is an example of these...
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
So who is the deceiver? The one who preaches a Gospel which is a cloak for ongoing rebellion?
Or is it me who is telling you to depart from iniquity and be reconciled to God through the shed blood of Jesus Christ which one accesses through repentance and faith?
It's your decision!
Penal Substitution Doctrine
1. The Penal Substitution doctrine is only 400 years old. It is a development of the Satisfaction Model of the Atonement which was first proposed by Anselm in the 1tth Century. The Reformers added a judicial element to the Satisfaction Model whereby they taught that Jesus was literally PUNISHED by God and thus bore the wrath due the sinner. This is where the FUTURE forgiveness of sins really first began to take hold due it being a logical necessity of this doctrine. The Bible clearly teaches that PAST SINS are forgiven in Christ, not future rebellion (Rom 3:25). In fact there is no sacrifice for continued rebellion (Heb 10:26-29).
Read the history of this doctrine. The early Church NEVER TAUGHT IT. Yet SO MANY blindly believe it.
Penal substitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2. Penal Substitution denies that God forgives sins. It teaches that sin is a literal transferable property and that God transferred sin to an innocent (Christ) and then punished Him in the place of the sinner. It was through this act that God's wrath was appeased and thus the sin debt was paid. Thus sins are not freely forgiven they are instead transferred and still punished. It is true that Jesus BORE our sins and that Jesus was an appeasement offering but not in the sense of a Judicial Penal Substitution. Judicial Penal Substitution is Reformed Heresy.
3. Penal Substitution logically concludes that salvation is purely forensic and that unconditional eternal security is true. Penal Substitution serves to redefine salvation as a mere book-keeping entry where the problem between God and man is rectified through a legal transaction as opposed to repentance and faith. Repentance and faith deal with the root issue of sin, ie. the actual motivation for rebellion and is dealt with once and for all. Penal Substitution removes this aspect from the reconciliation process completely and the result is that iniquity remains in the heart.
Due to the "penalty being paid" under Penal Substitution it cannot be "made due again" thus if it has been paid for on your behalf then there is no sin you can do which would forfeit your right standing before God (which is what the wolves commonly teach) which practically implies that you now have a license to sin. This license to sin is often covered up by alluding that "you SHOULD NOT sin." Thus the cessation of sin is relegated as OPTIONAL because in the mind salvation is merely forensic in nature and is totally disconnected from the deeds done in the body.
4. Penal Substitution completely negates the release from the bondage of sin. Under Penal Substitution salvation is merely "being set free from condemnation" as opposed to "being set free from condemnation and bondage." Penal Substitution gives people a false assurance of salvation whilst they remain in bondage to their sins. That is why those beholden to this error take so much offense to the message of "go and sin no more" because in their minds "going and sinning no more" has NOTHING to do with salvation, to them that would be "adding to the finished work of Christ on the cross" (ie. adding to the Penal Substitution). To imply that "going and sinning no more" is related to "being saved" is basically a direct attack upon their assurance of salvation. Thus another dangerous fruit of this doctrine is revealed and that is that this "assurance" serves as an ANTIDOTE to the TRUTH. The true Gospel of repentance proven by deeds and how it connects with an obedient trusting faith in Jesus Christ is then rejected in the mind.
5. Penal Substitution logically necessitates that Jesus died for only those who would be saved. Hence the atonement must be limited under this system. If Penal Substitution is true then Jesus could not have "paid the price" for all men because if He did then universal salvation would be true. For those who hold to Penal Substitution, to deny this would mean that they believe God pours out His wrath for the same sins twice, which in turn would deny their eternal security doctrine. The logical outcome of the Penal Substitution doctrine is that Jesus died ONLY for the elect because if He died for everyone then everyone would be saved. The Reformers rejected universalism and therefore held to the Limited Atonement view (L in TULIP).
6. If the sins of all men were literally transferred to the account of Jesus then He would not have been without spot. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus offered Himself without spot to God. If Penal Substitution is true then Jesus was spotted with sin when He offered Himself.
Being IN CHRIST means we are walking after the Spirit. There is nothing ABSTRACT about it. It is not a provisional identity like the wolf in the clip above is teaching.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
2Co 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
Paul WAS CRUCIFIED in Christ and that means that the WILL OF PAUL was in SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF GOD.
We know that we are IN HIM if we are YIELDING TO HIM.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Don't let these wolves deceive you.
God bless.
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i heard he was giving away cookies and pizza.