Perhaps the Poorest Translated Verse, found in Romans 10

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eternally-gratefull

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You are quite a fast reader. However, a good reasoning of upholding the law is neglected, like many do to the bible.
How can upholding the law be neglected. When it is impossible.

People come to Christ every day with this knowledge given them by the law. It is alive and well and working wonderful things..

Lets praise God for that.

But lets stop short of saying it will make us good people. that was not its intended purpose. nor can it do so. We are no more capably of fulfilling the law agter we are saved, then before. About all we can do is if we would foolishly put ourselves next to the law to see how good we are doing compaired how good we did before we were saved. And see a massive improvement. But we still would just realise we fal so far short of doing it. It could only get us down. Or make us like the LAWyers, and not see it for what it really is, and think we are actually righteous. WHich is just as bad for our Christian growth.
 
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I think Spurgeon covered the reason...His law is written on our hearts as believers...stone never accomplished that.

Paul tried to help us with this in romans 1. But people do not seem to like that passage (at least the LAWyers)
 
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I would say acts 2: 42 is one of the worse translated verses.

In the OLD english text you can see it but no one speaks that language so it would be hard to see. The newer ones get it wrong altogether.
 
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[SUP]18 [/SUP]But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world. [SUP]19 [/SUP]But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. [SUP]20 [/SUP]But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me. [SUP]21 [/SUP]But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

Isaiah 6:8-9 - Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Isaiah 27:9 - By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged; and this is all the fruit to take away his sin; when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, the groves and images shall not stand up.
Isaiah 59:20 - And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 31:33-34 - But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

No, God is not done with Israel. The Church has not replaced Israel. and the Law written on your heart? It is not a fuzzy feel good made up kind of one's own fantasy, no no, it is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, it is the commandments of God.
 
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Let's start with two, shall we? Acts 12:4....the word easter should not be there. The only time it is in the bible and it has no business being there the one time.
2 Kings 10:34.."Now the rest of the acts of Jehu, and all that he did, and all his might, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel?"
I challenge you to find the "rest of the acts of Jehu".
AMEN ON THAT as it is PASSOVER..........
 

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The word used their is pascha. Translated passover. I was used alot in the nt,

Luke used the same word in Luke
22 Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread drew near, which is called Passover.

also in verse 11 of the same chapter:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then you shall say to the master of the house, ‘The Teacher says to you, “Where is the guest room where I may eat the Passover with My disciples?”’
Easter....................Passover..............Passingover Easter.............Easter Passingover..........I got no problem with either.

:)

My Bible has "Easter" in that Scripture, and "Passover" in many other places...........neither confuse me about who is my Lord and Saviour when I read them............ :)
 
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Easter....................Passover..............Passingover Easter.............Easter Passingover..........I got no problem with either.

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My Bible has "Easter" in that Scripture, and "Passover" in many other places...........neither confuse me about who is my Lord and Saviour when I read them............ :)

That may be true, but it would not be seen as easter in the day it was written.

So although I agree it is not the worst mistake. it is one all the same. There are many far worse.
 

p_rehbein

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That may be true, but it would not be seen as easter in the day it was written.

So although I agree it is not the worst mistake. it is one all the same. There are many far worse.
well............................. "mistake hunters" GONNA "hunt............"

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That may be true, but it would not be seen as easter in the day it was written.

So although I agree it is not the worst mistake. it is one all the same. There are many far worse.
Well my problem with the change of the word is....

1. Do we celebrate the Passover<----which is the word used and understood by a 1st century Christian or...
2. Do we practice the present day twisted holy day that has nothing to do with Jesus?

What is there to keep us from changing and or slightly twisting other words so as to change the bible and or what is being taught by the immediate context and will it be changed if we change the word......

Everybody's understanding of EASTER notwithstanding that is!
 

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Well my problem with the change of the word is....

1. Do we celebrate the Passover<----which is the word used and understood by a 1st century Christian or...
2. Do we practice the present day twisted holy day that has nothing to do with Jesus?

What is there to keep us from changing and or slightly twisting other words so as to change the bible and or what is being taught by the immediate context and will it be changed if we change the word......

Everybody's understanding of EASTER notwithstanding that is!
Easter Sunday/Resurrection Sunday "has nothing to do with Jesus?"

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Well my problem with the change of the word is....

1. Do we celebrate the Passover<----which is the word used and understood by a 1st century Christian or...
2. Do we practice the present day twisted holy day that has nothing to do with Jesus?

What is there to keep us from changing and or slightly twisting other words so as to change the bible and or what is being taught by the immediate context and will it be changed if we change the word......

Everybody's understanding of EASTER notwithstanding that is!
My family celebrates all the holidays for the kids. Plus many people come to God during easter. God can use things even if they do come with a pagan origin. So I am not going to argue for or against it.
 

p_rehbein

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Yeah, more important things to do. And much more severe mistakes
Well, I guess we are going to have to gather up every Bible currently in circulation and destroy them 'cuz they are all one big mistake.............Well, it's true.....

The original texts were NOT divided by Chapter and Verse............(sigh)
 
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Easter Sunday/Resurrection Sunday "has nothing to do with Jesus?"

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Maybe slowwww down Paul and read what I wrote....

2. Do we practice the present day twisted holy day that has nothing to do with Jesus?

Seriously...do you honestly believe Jesus takes pleasure in his glorious death, burial and resurrection being tied to commercialized Easter bunnies, Dyed Egg hunts and Baskets of candy left by an Imaginary bunny....Serious Dude!
 
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Well, I guess we are going to have to gather up every Bible currently in circulation and destroy them 'cuz they are all one big mistake.............Well, it's true.....

The original texts were NOT divided by Chapter and Verse............(sigh)
Nah we can figure them out. God did not leave us without the ability.
 
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My family celebrates all the holidays for the kids. Plus many people come to God during easter. God can use things even if they do come with a pagan origin. So I am not going to argue for or against it.
I don't believe that.....God uses truth and nothing but the truth....that which is crooked cannot be made straight and no where does the bible teach that the end justifies the means.....
 
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I don't believe that.....God uses truth and nothing but the truth....that which is crooked cannot be made straight and no where does the bible teach that the end justifies the means.....
Well like I said.

Many people have come to Christ on that holiday.

I guess we can praise men for that wonderful thing??
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Well, I guess we are going to have to gather up every Bible currently in circulation and destroy them 'cuz they are all one big mistake.............Well, it's true.....

The original texts were NOT divided by Chapter and Verse............(sigh)
Nor do I believe that we need to go this far either.....
 

p_rehbein

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Maybe slowwww down Paul and read what I wrote....

2. Do we practice the present day twisted holy day that has nothing to do with Jesus?

Seriously...do you honestly believe Jesus takes pleasure in his glorious death, burial and resurrection being tied to commercialized Easter bunnies, Dyed Egg hunts and Baskets of candy left by an Imaginary bunny....Serious Dude!
slooooooooooooooooooow down yerself! :)

You are referring to how "the world" celebrates Easter/Resurrection Sunday...........let us focus on the Church.

And, if we are going to go down that road..............do you think Jesus takes pleasure in the incessant arguments of the Church concerning denominational/theological ideologies/differences?

Which is the greater sin?