it is only self-gratification that only benefits the one doing it. Therefore the world calls it " self-love" which is not love at all.
it is an act of selfishness and a lack of self-control.[/quote
I care not what “the world” calls it, I only care what my Lord and Savior calls it and instructs us according to it biblically. That’s what this thread is all about. I find no condemnation or blessings of it biblically, thus I’ve ask my fellow Christians to teach and or opine to me about the issue and ask for their input. Apparently you believe I intend to pervert the forum with Satanic conversation. I assure you if this is what’s being displayed here, I apologize to you, it’s not my intent.
"Are you calling a loving physical sexual relationship with one’s wife/husband an addiction to what, sex or love?"
Likely both! A love so strong it can be defined as an “addiction” is a thing of beauty, in my opinion. Apparently, unlike you I fail to see a loving marital sexual relationship as anything other than beautiful. I find no sin in it.
Just so you know Masturbating is not a loving physical sexual relationship with one's wife/husband.
I believe masturbation is a “natural” act, as proven by extensive research by sexologist . I believe masturbation only becomes sin when in accord with its mental stimulation it incorporates mental sinful actions.
I believe masturbation can be a loving and gratifying experience when it incorporates loving bedroom memories of one’s departed wife/husband.
You need two people for that, one wife and one husband. Masturbating falls short on love and a sexual relationship.
Two people are incorporated in what I’m defining as a mental and physical memorial relationship. Explain please why they are not.
If you truly seek " Bible " and the context to how Gods sees this act you are greatly defending, it is clear you are not seeing the deception in your Biblical understanding.
You’ve tried very hard to convince me I’m posting self deception and fail biblical understanding. I can’t agree with your opinions, because they fail producing any evidence. The evidence I rely on is God’s nature and his scriptural offerings. God is silent on masturbation by any other name. But God tells us what sin is and Jesus warns us about “mental” sin. And even you have posted scripture about the innocence of the loving marital bedroom. I propose that those mental memories do not depart with most because of a departure of one’s spouse.
I am not be condemning, the word of God does not support your self-gratifying acts of what you think is love.
Nor does scripture condemn what I believe can be a loving memorial relationship with a departed spouse.
I believe love is the fondness of the heart, the desire to please another. The greater those emotions, the greater the love. How do you define love?
You cannot express love to a dead person nor can the dead person express it to you. That is self-deception.
Love doesn’t require a display of it by more than one person. You buy flowers for you wife to display your love, is she required to then give you a gift? Your wife is maybe a nurse or doctor called away abroad to serve others in distress for a long period, do you simply forget her?
You are acting like a person suffering from an addiction to being a voyeur.
Your opinion is noted and rejected!
Lies you created about masturbation :
Your opinion is noted and rejected!
The act of MB is love being expressed to another that is dead.
And the sin is?
The act of MB is a sexual relationship without two people.
The sin is?
One can have a sexual relationship without being in a relationship
And a loving memory fails your “relationship” test because?
Love is an expression that some who is dead can enjoy
I will stop there because I think I have made a very strong point.
And who has insinuated that a person that has passed away can enjoy a sexual relationship?