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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begottten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Animals cannot believe in Jesus or have a personal relationship with Him, so how can they have everlasting life?
Animals can have everlasting life if God choses to allow that. I hope that He does. That would make me happy.
 
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begottten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Animals cannot believe in Jesus or have a personal relationship with Him, so how can they have everlasting life?
I beg to differ. Who are we to say that God does not have a relationship with His animals? Besides, animals have a keen sense of awareness that we do not possess. If Jesus walked among animals I am confident they would recognize Him for who He is while we on the other hand Crucified Him.
 
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Thank you all for your responses, a lot of them were comforting and thank you for taking the time to share your experiences with me. It has mean a lot. Your pets are like family...Bless you all.
 
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I started this thread over the loss of our dog and so many of you have made a mockery out of this thread. I have grieved, over it, so keep having fun!
Dear sister, many of us are praying for you that God's comfort and peace will surround you today and always. Take comfort in knowing Jesus is always with you. Remember, Jesus said, "Blessed are you when people revile you and make fun of you on my account." He's fully aware of your loss and the mockery that has ensued. It's because you love your dog so much that you hurt as you do, but you are blessed, and in time your tears of sorrow will turn into smiles of joyful remembrance. And through it all, God is well pleased at the depth of your love. God bless you!
 
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I beg to differ. Who are we to say that God does not have a relationship with His animals? Besides, animals have a keen sense of awareness that we do not possess. If Jesus walked among animals I am confident they would recognize Him for who He is while we on the other hand Crucified Him.
Incredible! You make something that returns to its own vomit worthy of the precious gift that Jesus suffered so horribly for.
 
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Incredible! You make something that returns to its own vomit worthy of the precious gift that Jesus suffered so horribly for.
And every time you sin you're bathing and gargling in your own spiritual vomit. So what's your point?
 
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And every time you sin you're bathing and gargling in your own spiritual vomit. So what's your point?
I have the option of going to the Lord and repenting. So what's your point?

Please show me one scripture reference where God speaks of animals as being His children. In all the Gospels and Epistles where is the reference that animals are wothy of salvation?

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:9,10
 
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I have the option of going to the Lord and repenting. So what's your point?

Please show me one scripture reference where God speaks of animals as being His children. In all the Gospels and Epistles where is the reference that animals are wothy of salvation?

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:9,10
You say you have the option of going to the Lord and repenting. Wrong!
You have the
indisputable, dire need of going to the Lord and repenting.
Of what sins do animals need to repent? None. They are more Christ-like than humans regarding unconditional love and lack of sin.

Regarding Scripture, I'll post Psalm 36 for the second time in this thread:

(God) Your righteousness is like the highest mountains,

your justice like the great deep.
You, Lord, preserve both people and animals.

Preserve = love = save = in Heaven. Not my words, God's.
 
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You say you have the option of going to the Lord and repenting. Wrong!
You have the
indisputable, dire need of going to the Lord and repenting.
Of what sins do animals need to repent? None. They are more Christ-like than humans regarding unconditional love and lack of sin.

Regarding Scripture, I'll post Psalm 36 for the second time in this thread:

(God) Your righteousness is like the highest mountains,

your justice like the great deep.
You, Lord, preserve both people and animals.

Preserve = love = save = in Heaven. Not my words, God's.
Your definition of preserve is interesting. How you get that it means to save in Heaven is beyond me.

The American Dictionary of The English Language by Noah Webster c.1828 gives as one of the defintions of preserve as:

"to save from injury", or destruction; to defend from evil".

And if applied to an animal that's far from going to heaven.

Man and animals share a common destiny, they both die and return to the dust and by observation no one can tell where the spirit goes. Ecc.3:21, but in (12:7) Solomon does affirm that the spirit of man returns to God for judgement when man goes to his "long home" (meaning eternal reward), and, he doesn't include animals.


Because humans can reason, we are able to make intelligent and moral decisions; animals cannot. God did not create animals with the ability to choose right or wrong, to accept or reject salvation. Only humans were given this ability to reason.
 
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Your definition of preserve is interesting. How you get that it means to save in Heaven is beyond me.

The American Dictionary of The English Language by Noah Webster c.1828 gives as one of the defintions of preserve as:

"to save from injury", or destruction; to defend from evil".

And if applied to an animal that's far from going to heaven.

Man and animals share a common destiny, they both die and return to the dust and by observation no one can tell where the spirit goes. Ecc.3:21, but in (12:7) Solomon does affirm that the spirit of man returns to God for judgement when man goes to his "long home" (meaning eternal reward), and, he doesn't include animals.


Because humans can reason, we are able to make intelligent and moral decisions; animals cannot. God did not create animals with the ability to choose right or wrong, to accept or reject salvation. Only humans were given this ability to reason.
You must not love animals and are cold hearted and do not believe.
 
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The scriptures declare that animals will still exist in the future, even after Christ’s reign begins.


Isaiah 11:6
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The wolf shall dwell with the lamb,
and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together;
and a little child shall lead them.
7The cow and the bear shall graze;
their young shall lie down together;
and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra,
and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den.
9They shall not hurt or destroy
in all my holy mountain;

for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
as the waters cover the sea.

Ecclesiastes 3:18-22
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I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. 19For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.[SUP]b[/SUP] 20All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. 21Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? 22So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot. Who can bring him to see what will be after him?
 
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You must not love animals and are cold hearted and do not believe.
Because I can accept the truth and you cannot doesn't mean I do not love animals. I love Jesus more.
 
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Have you ever heard of a metaphor? Is JESUS a little wooly Lamb in reality? Does the Lion of Judah roar and chase gazelles? Please get real. The precious blood of JESUS was not shed on the cross for your pot bellied pig or gerbils. Animals to no have everlasting souls. GOD did not fashion animals out of the dust of the earth and breath into their nostrils the breath of LIFE. God only did that to Adam, the 1st man. Where would be the dividing line, if animals were in heaven? There certainly were good dinosaurs that never bothered anything else. Who's to say that your goldfish was mean and deserves hell? If animals did go to heaven, who's pets would end up in hell? Let's cut to the chase and grow up, shall we? When was the last time you visited the zoo and took your bible to witness and pass out tracks to the rhinos and monkeys? You act as if they can accept JESUS as their Savior, like humans can, so what is holding you back? Why, you could start the very 1st NOAH's ARK church, complete with holding pens, tanks, and corrals for all of those saved and sactified heaven bound animals. LOL LOL LOL
 
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The scriptures declare that animals will still exist in the future, even after Christ’s reign begins.


Isaiah 11:6
6
The wolf shall dwell with the lamb,
and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together;
and a little child shall lead them.
7The cow and the bear shall graze;
their young shall lie down together;
and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra,
and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den.
9They shall not hurt or destroy
in all my holy mountain;

for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
as the waters cover the sea.

Ecclesiastes 3:18-22
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I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. 19For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.[SUP]b[/SUP] 20All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. 21Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? 22So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot. Who can bring him to see what will be after him?
The Thousand year reign has nothing to do with heaven it is only to show that with Jesus true peace will exist. I explained Ecc..
 

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The scriptures declare that animals will still exist in the future, even after Christ’s reign begins.


Isaiah 11:6
6
The wolf shall dwell with the lamb,
and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together;
and a little child shall lead them.
7The cow and the bear shall graze;
their young shall lie down together;
and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra,
and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den.
9They shall not hurt or destroy
in all my holy mountain;

for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
as the waters cover the sea.

Ecclesiastes 3:18-22
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I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. 19For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.[SUP]b[/SUP] 20All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. 21Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? 22So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot. Who can bring him to see what will be after him?
The Thousand year reign has nothing to do with heaven it is only to show that with Jesus true peace will exist. I explained Ecc..
Actually, this is conclusive evidence of animals in heaven.
 

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Have you ever heard of a metaphor? Is JESUS a little wooly Lamb in reality? Does the Lion of Judah roar and chase gazelles? Please get real. The precious blood of JESUS was not shed on the cross for your pot bellied pig or gerbils. Animals to no have everlasting souls. GOD did not fashion animals out of the dust of the earth and breath into their nostrils the breath of LIFE. God only did that to Adam, the 1st man. Where would be the dividing line, if animals were in heaven? There certainly were good dinosaurs that never bothered anything else. Who's to say that your goldfish was mean and deserves hell? If animals did go to heaven, who's pets would end up in hell? Let's cut to the chase and grow up, shall we? When was the last time you visited the zoo and took your bible to witness and pass out tracks to the rhinos and monkeys? You act as if they can accept JESUS as their Savior, like humans can, so what is holding you back? Why, you could start the very 1st NOAH's ARK church, complete with holding pens, tanks, and corrals for all of those saved and sactified heaven bound animals. LOL LOL LOL
There is room in the universe created by God for every human, animal, and insect ever created with room for unlimited multiplication. Yeah, room for the good dinosaurs too.
 
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I beg to differ. Who are we to say that God does not have a relationship with His animals? Besides, animals have a keen sense of awareness that we do not possess. If Jesus walked among animals I am confident they would recognize Him for who He is while we on the other hand Crucified Him.

Jonah 1

[SUP]17[/SUP]Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

Jonah 2

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And the Lord spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.

So the Lord prepared a fish,fish swallows Jonah whole without chewing. God speaks to the fish,fish spits up Jonah. Do fish understand God's voice?
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Because I can accept the truth and you cannot doesn't mean I do not love animals. I love Jesus more.
Dear Sister, everyone involved in this conversation loves Jesus, and more so than we do animals. What we are trying to say is animals are God's creation, and He loves them. And no where is it written in Scripture that animals are not in Heaven. You make that assumption yourself.

Do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink,[j] or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air; they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?

We are of more value than birds (animals) but this is not to say that animals have no worth. Jesus clearly states God values them. Who are you to shut out the Kingdom of God to His creation? That's dangerously arrogant.
 
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There is room in the universe created by God for every human, animal, and insect ever created with room for unlimited multiplication. Yeah, room for the good dinosaurs too.
Exactly! This shutting out the Kingdom of Heaven against 99% of God's creation is mind-blowing.