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Animals do not have souls.. sorry .....if they Did. then Christ went to the Bloody Tree. not only to 'die' for lost soul of a person.. but of animals also. I find now where in the Word of God that says Jesus the Christ , died for the soul of an animal.. sorry.. man likes to pull God down to his/her level and tell Him how He is suppose to act.. even using the Word of God to twist and turn His Arm.. Not gonna Happen.. Appeasement at the Tree was for lost man.. body soul and spirit.. not animals. ANIMALS do not have souls.. but are made up of flesh/bone (animals) those types differ .. and a spirit which is the life/breathe in them.. sorry..
I don't think that Jesus died for plants and trees either but I am guessing that these will be in the New Heaven and the New Earth too. I guess that God is not powerful enough to resurrect our pets and maybe He just doesn't care. The way some people described heaven makes you wonder why you would even want to go there. It seems to be a boring place.
 
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I don't think that Jesus died for plants and trees either but I am guessing that these will be in the New Heaven and the New Earth too. I guess that God is not powerful enough to resurrect our pets and maybe He just doesn't care. The way some people described heaven makes you wonder why you would even want to go there. It seems to be a boring place.
Perhaps the person you quoted thinks animals are robots that run out of battery and fall over when they run out of juice :rolleyes:.......
 
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JesusIsAll

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It does seem one needs to account for the requirement of being born again to see the kingdom of God and how this would apply to animals. And why just somebody's pet? Is the God not a respecter of persons a respecter of animals? It seems you'd have to include all animals, in this case, and I'm not sure that cow I had part of in a cheeseburger last week would find me welcome company on the other side, for understandable reasons. I'm also uncertain of wanting to see some mosquitoes again. In any event, the confusion over the basic gospel that goes on around here would seem to indicate we need to get the theology of humans down, first, if this is at all possible. Just sayin'.
 
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It does seem one needs to account for the requirement of being born again to see the kingdom of God and how this would apply to animals. And why just somebody's pet? Is the God not a respecter of persons a respecter of animals? It seems you'd have to include all animals, in this case, and I'm not sure that cow I had part of in a cheeseburger last week would find me welcome company on the other side, for understandable reasons. I'm also uncertain of wanting to see some mosquitoes again. In any event, the confusion over the basic gospel that goes on around here would seem to indicate we need to get the theology of humans down, first, if this is at all possible. Just sayin'.
Dude let me wade through all that straw for a few.......:rolleyes:
Are we talking about life in pets here or misquitos and cheeseburgers?........ Mosquitoes are pests and cattle is for food but i'm sure many have made both their pets here just like bed bugs and fleas. Do Misquitos and cows run on batteries or was life put in them? will the life not return to God when their body drops? Perhaps you have been to heaven and will educate us with your great insight of knowledge of all things then?
 
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In any event, the confusion over the basic gospel that goes on around here would seem to indicate we need to get the theology of humans down, first, if this is at all possible. Just sayin'.
Amen, must have been to many squitos and cheeseburgers and cattle and hay and fleas and bed bugs and what not that confused me sooo bad :p
Btw i agree with the quote above and once again Amen brother Jesusisall.
Say on another note been awhile since we seen you around here,......have you checked out the Harding U swim cap or was that the church of the false prophet thingy shower cap? once again i get confused easily so please do forgive me :eek:
 
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JesusIsAll

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Mosquitoes are pests and cattle is for food
There are surely mosquitoes and cows that may take umbrage at this! What makes you think all cattle is thinking they's just food?

Perhaps you have been to heaven and will educate us with your great insight of knowledge of all things then?
Would never be so presumptuous, enough of a problem to prayerfully hope some of you only get your pets, then, that God's also prejudiced against skeeters. And at least I have some twinge of regret over the cow, hope Daisy didn't hear you call her food. You know, some Asians have different ideas about what's food... Dude.
 
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There are surely mosquitoes and cows that may take umbrage at this! What makes you think all cattle is thinking they's just food?



Would never be so presumptuous, enough of a problem to prayerfully hope some of you only get your pets, then, that God's also prejudiced against skeeters. And at least I have some twinge of regret over the cow, hope Daisy didn't hear you call her food. You know, Chinese have some different ideas about what's food... Dude.
ROFL.......k i'll let you tell it brother cause dang now i'm really confused again. i'll just trust God and hope we all see fluffy,whiskers, and all our friends with 4 legs,wings, or whatever when we get there. .......
and the goldfish too well maybe not, anyway thank you for the laughs brother Jesusisall and hope to see you and all our other brothers and sisters in heaven one day too :) will you be wearing a shower cap thingy or swim cap? well we will find out then.......sigh.....:confused:
 
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Amen, must have been to many squitos and cheeseburgers and cattle and hay and fleas and bed bugs and what not that confused me sooo bad :p
Btw i agree with the quote above and once again Amen brother Jesusisall.
Say on another note been awhile since we seen you around here,......have you checked out the Harding U swim cap or was that the church of the false prophet thingy shower cap? once again i get confused easily so please do forgive me :eek:
No, forgive me, a helpless incorrigible. I was off doing other things, but really got repulsed by Hebrew roots stuff taking over the site awhile back, began to find some things of a certain darkness not worthwhile, personally, no sense in indulging in some incessant war with cult stuff in most every thread. But, no, must find out about this, what, shower cap of anointing or something? Is it something one should do on a full stomach? As for confusion, don't worry about it. I was born that way and somehow have survived, much to the dismay of some.
 
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No, forgive me, a helpless incorrigible. I was off doing other things, but really got repulsed by Hebrew roots stuff taking over the site awhile back, began to find some things of a certain darkness not worthwhile, personally, no sense in indulging in some incessant war with cult stuff in most every thread. But, no, must find out about this, what, shower cap of anointing or something? Is it something one should do on a full stomach? As for confusion, don't worry about it. I was born that way and somehow have survived, much to the dismay of some.
Amen and Amen......perhaps we can enjoy a nice song together?.....

[video=youtube;w_er72QbMpk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_er72QbMpk[/video]
 
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JesusIsAll

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all our friends with 4 legs,wings, or whatever when we get there. .......
and the goldfish too well maybe not
Amen, and why not? I'll try not to slather anybody's goldfish in tartar sauce. Tell you what, keep your eye on your dog, while hanging out at the Vietnamese mansions.
 
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phil112

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It is my personal opinion that all animals go to heaven. God created them and gave them a soul. I think that heaven would not be complete without animals. :)
That is pure speculation. Nowhere in my bible does it say anything about animals having souls. A soul is eternal and nowhere does the bible say an animal will live beyond its' years on this earth.
Stick with what scripture says, don't guess about what it doesn't say.
 

p_rehbein

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Just guessing here, but there has not been a decision reached that is of one accord?
 
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phil112

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Animals don't have souls. Some people astound me with their shallowness in the word. We don't know what heaven will be like. We don't have the ability to even imagine it. Yet here some of you folks have this little cozy scene all set up in your mind...prolly chicken coops and hound dogs and maybe you favorite parrot or kitten or poodle.
Mercy sakes, how silly to try to imagine something that God has already told you that you can't. If your heavenly life won't be complete unless little Fluffy is there, I'm pretty sure God has that problem solved already.
Oh ye of little faith...............sigh
 

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How do you know animals don't have souls? Have you ever been an animal? I know they feel love, pain and loneliness. My Father had a cat that was very attached to him. When my Dad died our cat was mourning, she would sort of cat howl for him, she would sleep on the slippers he wore everyday and she kept looking for him in his favorite chair. Open your hearts and minds.
 
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Jasher

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It is understood that animals do not have a spirit so when they are dead they are gone forever. But in the Kingdom of God at the end of time I cannot imagine not having animals as they are such wondrous and lovable creatures. I think there will be animals in heaven but I think they will be redesigned and the wildness taken out of them. The original blueprints are still in eternity. I know the lion laying down with the lamb is a metaphor of the coming of the New Covenant but I also have to think it is literal as well.
 
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Animals do not have souls.. sorry .....if they Did. then Christ went to the Bloody Tree. not only to 'die' for lost soul of a person.. but of animals also. I find now where in the Word of God that says Jesus the Christ , died for the soul of an animal.. sorry.. man likes to pull God down to his/her level and tell Him how He is suppose to act.. even using the Word of God to twist and turn His Arm.. Not gonna Happen.. Appeasement at the Tree was for lost man.. body soul and spirit.. not animals. ANIMALS do not have souls.. but are made up of flesh/bone (animals) those types differ .. and a spirit which is the life/breathe in them.. sorry..

I'm not convinced animals have a soul, because the scriptural evidence is pretty scant. This may be by design, as there is not a lot of scriptural discussion of what heaven is like period, save that there is a resurrection. Seriously some people can't even agree on the concept that a resurrection implies that you do have a physical body. Animals are... pretty far down the line.

However, if animals have souls, I would say those souls never needed saving to begin with. Sin entered the world through Adam. It has always been humanity that needed saving. Animals just sort of do whatever it is they do, and I'm guessing without guilt, or that would have been mentioned scripturally.
 
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phil112

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How do you know animals don't have souls? Have you ever been an animal? I know they feel love, pain and loneliness. My Father had a cat that was very attached to him. When my Dad died our cat was mourning, she would sort of cat howl for him, she would sleep on the slippers he wore everyday and she kept looking for him in his favorite chair. Open your hearts and minds.
You know that some botanists and plant lovers will swear that talking to plants or playing certain kinds of music, is beneficial to them and arguing or yelling hurts them, right? Do plants have souls?
Where in the bible does it hint that animals have souls? You think that ANY of God's creations don't have the ability to appreciate good care? You really have no clue what God is capable of, do you?
I have had many pets and miss them all. I have 5 dogs now. I harbor no illusions that they will got to heaven, but when I make it I have all the confidence in the world that if God thinks I need pets He'll provide some heavenly ones for me.
Gaaaagghhhhhh................It is better to build doctrine on what the bible says, rather than what it doesn't say.
Silliness beyond belief in here sometimes.
 

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That is pure speculation. Nowhere in my bible does it say anything about animals having souls. A soul is eternal and nowhere does the bible say an animal will live beyond its' years on this earth.
Stick with what scripture says, don't guess about what it doesn't say.
It is not written in the Bible that animals have souls.

Neither is it written in the Bible that animals do not have souls.

Jesus tells us to ask and it will be given to us according to our faith.

I've asked that He grant all animals, especially my pets, to be in Heaven forever, and so shall it be.
 
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phil112

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I'm not convinced animals have a soul, because the scriptural evidence is pretty scant. ......................
Pretty scant???? Ridiculous!!!! It is nonexistent.
 
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phil112

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It is not written in the Bible that animals have souls.

Neither is it written in the Bible that animals do not have souls.

Jesus tells us to ask and it will be given to us according to our faith.

I've asked that He grant all animals, especially my pets, to be in Heaven forever, and so shall it be.
You think so, huh? Because lil utah wants it God's gonna grant it.
Son, you better get off the computer and get you eyes back in the bible because you are doing it wrong and you're thinking wrong.
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts