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Define "lust". Then define "in his heart". There is a world of difference between noting that you have sexual desire in your sex organs because you see a woman, and letting that observation cause you to want to have sex with her in your heart. Gen 2:23 is a long way from Gen. 4:1 (arguably that should say Gen. 4:25).
Look at what he is admitting here: I have had an issue of visual interpretation that goes on in my mind-happening so fast-when for instance i see a gorgeous woman(curvy) and immediately i may not necessarily think sexual about her but i definitely find her attractive. Then the drama begins..
The first clue of lust is his word (CURVY) then he says i may not necessarily think sexual about her. ....May not is not the same as not. And the fact that he says (may not think SEXUAL)....SCREAMS SEX....
The first clue of lust is his word (CURVY) then he says i may not necessarily think sexual about her. ....May not is not the same as not. And the fact that he says (may not think SEXUAL)....SCREAMS SEX....
Define lust....It is thinking (which is thought) I want that. The same meaning that King David had when he thought (I want what's his names wife for sex and sent the man to the front of the battle field to make sure the man would die. His simple thought of lust caused premeditated murder and adultery.
Define in his heart... Now you are trying to disassociate words. Love the Lord thy God with all thy.... the key word here is all.
Lust includes all. That includes the mind and the heart and the soul.
I'm sure you've heard the phrase..let's get to the heart of the matter? You're putting sin in the space of the heart where the Holy Spirit belongs.
I had to cut off a woman lower part of her swim suit and bear it all to bandage a bad wound. There was no lust in my heart.
Lust includes all. That includes the mind and the heart and the soul.
I'm sure you've heard the phrase..let's get to the heart of the matter? You're putting sin in the space of the heart where the Holy Spirit belongs.
I had to cut off a woman lower part of her swim suit and bear it all to bandage a bad wound. There was no lust in my heart.
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i believe the flesh has a mind of it own and it tries to do it own thing but you gotta stand up and say you know better and don't give into that flesh or it's thoughts it's a constant battle brother don't accept everything you see in your head, the enemy sometimes put things there to make it believe it's you but once you know better you would know that it isn't you that is thinking that way, same thing happens to me too some ridiculous stuff comes into my head sometimes then i snap out of it and say this isn't me, but yea gotta be very aware and watch yourself
Hi direct2iam. I think desire is present as our sex drive. Yes, just like animals, it is an autonomous push by our natural human impulses. Lust is born when we act on that drive and form a willful thought. A natural glance in passing and quickly turning away before the thought can be conceived, I think, is a successful resisting of the temptation.
If we allow our drive to hold our eyes in place on the object to be lusted after, and then form a coherent thought involving that object, that is lust. That lust can go even further if it turns into a physical action. If we had no natural desire, or impulse, we'd have no driving force in order to promote procreation.
If we allow our drive to hold our eyes in place on the object to be lusted after, and then form a coherent thought involving that object, that is lust. That lust can go even further if it turns into a physical action. If we had no natural desire, or impulse, we'd have no driving force in order to promote procreation.
You are going through the fight between flesh and Spirit of God that is not uncommon to man
Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.
[h=3]James 1[/h]New Life Version (NLV)
1 This letter is from James. I am a servant owned by God and the Lord Jesus Christ. I greet the twelve family groups of the Jewish nation living in many parts of the world.
[h=3]Take Hope When Tests Come[/h][SUP]2 [/SUP]My Christian brothers, you should be happy when you have all kinds of tests. [SUP]3 [/SUP]You know these prove your faith. It helps you not to give up. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Learn well how to wait so you will be strong and complete and in need of nothing.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]If you do not have wisdom, ask God for it. He is always ready to give it to you and will never say you are wrong for asking. [SUP]6 [/SUP]You must have faith as you ask Him. You must not doubt. Anyone who doubts is like a wave which is pushed around by the sea. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Such a man will get nothing from the Lord. [SUP]8 [/SUP]The man who has two ways of thinking changes in everything he does.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]A Christian brother who has few riches of this world should be happy for what he has. He is great in the eyes of God. [SUP]10 [/SUP]But a rich man should be happy even if he loses everything. He is like a flower that will die. [SUP]11 [/SUP]The sun comes up with burning heat. The grass dries up and the flower falls off. It is no longer beautiful. The rich man will die also and all his riches will be gone. [SUP]12 [/SUP]The man who does not give up when tests come is happy. After the test is over, he will receive the crown of life. God has promised this to those who love Him.
[h=3]God Does Not Tempt Us[/h][SUP]13 [/SUP]When you are tempted to do wrong, do not say, “God is tempting me.” God cannot be tempted. He will never tempt anyone. [SUP]14 [/SUP]A man is tempted to do wrong when he lets himself be led by what his bad thoughts tell him to do. [SUP]15 [/SUP]When he does what his bad thoughts tell him to do, he sins. When sin completes its work, it brings death.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]My Christian brothers, do not be fooled about this. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Whatever is good and perfect comes to us from God. He is the One Who made all light. He does not change. No shadow is made by His turning. [SUP]18 [/SUP]He gave us our new lives through the truth of His Word only because He wanted to. We are the first children in His family.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]My Christian brothers, you know everyone should listen much and speak little. He should be slow to become angry. [SUP]20 [/SUP]A man’s anger does not allow him to be right with God. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Put out of your life all that is unclean and wrong. Receive with a gentle spirit the Word that was taught. It has the power to save your souls from the punishment of sin.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Obey the Word of God. If you hear only and do not act, you are only fooling yourself. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Anyone who hears the Word of God and does not obey is like a man looking at his face in a mirror. [SUP]24 [/SUP]After he sees himself and goes away, he forgets what he looks like. [SUP]25 [/SUP]But the one who keeps looking into God’s perfect Law and does not forget it will do what it says and be happy as he does it. God’s Word makes men free.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]If a person thinks he is religious, but does not keep his tongue from speaking bad things, he is fooling himself. His religion is worth nothing. [SUP]27 [/SUP]Religion that is pure and good before God the Father is to help children who have no parents and to care for women whose husbands have died who have troubles. Pure religion is also to keep yourself clean from the sinful things of the world.
Galatians 6:8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.
[h=3]James 1[/h]New Life Version (NLV)
1 This letter is from James. I am a servant owned by God and the Lord Jesus Christ. I greet the twelve family groups of the Jewish nation living in many parts of the world.
[h=3]Take Hope When Tests Come[/h][SUP]2 [/SUP]My Christian brothers, you should be happy when you have all kinds of tests. [SUP]3 [/SUP]You know these prove your faith. It helps you not to give up. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Learn well how to wait so you will be strong and complete and in need of nothing.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]If you do not have wisdom, ask God for it. He is always ready to give it to you and will never say you are wrong for asking. [SUP]6 [/SUP]You must have faith as you ask Him. You must not doubt. Anyone who doubts is like a wave which is pushed around by the sea. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Such a man will get nothing from the Lord. [SUP]8 [/SUP]The man who has two ways of thinking changes in everything he does.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]A Christian brother who has few riches of this world should be happy for what he has. He is great in the eyes of God. [SUP]10 [/SUP]But a rich man should be happy even if he loses everything. He is like a flower that will die. [SUP]11 [/SUP]The sun comes up with burning heat. The grass dries up and the flower falls off. It is no longer beautiful. The rich man will die also and all his riches will be gone. [SUP]12 [/SUP]The man who does not give up when tests come is happy. After the test is over, he will receive the crown of life. God has promised this to those who love Him.
[h=3]God Does Not Tempt Us[/h][SUP]13 [/SUP]When you are tempted to do wrong, do not say, “God is tempting me.” God cannot be tempted. He will never tempt anyone. [SUP]14 [/SUP]A man is tempted to do wrong when he lets himself be led by what his bad thoughts tell him to do. [SUP]15 [/SUP]When he does what his bad thoughts tell him to do, he sins. When sin completes its work, it brings death.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]My Christian brothers, do not be fooled about this. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Whatever is good and perfect comes to us from God. He is the One Who made all light. He does not change. No shadow is made by His turning. [SUP]18 [/SUP]He gave us our new lives through the truth of His Word only because He wanted to. We are the first children in His family.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]My Christian brothers, you know everyone should listen much and speak little. He should be slow to become angry. [SUP]20 [/SUP]A man’s anger does not allow him to be right with God. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Put out of your life all that is unclean and wrong. Receive with a gentle spirit the Word that was taught. It has the power to save your souls from the punishment of sin.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Obey the Word of God. If you hear only and do not act, you are only fooling yourself. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Anyone who hears the Word of God and does not obey is like a man looking at his face in a mirror. [SUP]24 [/SUP]After he sees himself and goes away, he forgets what he looks like. [SUP]25 [/SUP]But the one who keeps looking into God’s perfect Law and does not forget it will do what it says and be happy as he does it. God’s Word makes men free.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]If a person thinks he is religious, but does not keep his tongue from speaking bad things, he is fooling himself. His religion is worth nothing. [SUP]27 [/SUP]Religion that is pure and good before God the Father is to help children who have no parents and to care for women whose husbands have died who have troubles. Pure religion is also to keep yourself clean from the sinful things of the world.
K
This is true, and this is why counselling is best done in private rather than in public, where questions can be asked, and body language and tone of voice can be noted. Discernment needs to be exercised, and either of us, or both, could be reading into the post our own needs, or experiences, instead.