(poll) Do We Choose Him or Does he choose us?
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Very good scriptures but IMO,where It says “If I be lifted up I will draw all unto me” Is talking about death on a cross which would pay the penalty for sin satisfying the demand of the law which meant
death and GOD who loves righteousness would accept that sacrifice and then whosoever believes In the WORD of GOD In CHRIST could receive salvation.
death and GOD who loves righteousness would accept that sacrifice and then whosoever believes In the WORD of GOD In CHRIST could receive salvation.
Did you read Psalms 53:2-3, to see, by God's foreknowledge, who would accept the invitation? Christ sacrifice on the cross was a sacrifice made to God, for God's acceptance and not to man for man's acceptance. Read the account of regeneration in Eph 2:5. I do not see where the natural man accepted any invitation when he was yet dead (spiritually) in sins. Eternal salvation is not an invitation for man to accept, otherwise, it would not be by God's sovereign grace and that not of man's work of accepting.
When Christ choose to come to the earth and Die for us He choose us. When we choose to die to self and live for Him we choose Him. Jesus loves all of us and wants all to choose Him.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
He did everything, all we have to do is respond.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
He did everything, all we have to do is respond.
Jer 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
I agree that we can't do good in our own power.
But with the Spirit in us, With Christ in my heart can i be empowered to choose the right way.
Christ can empower us. And continual surrender to His will, my character is transformed.
Eph 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
I agree that we can't do good in our own power.
But with the Spirit in us, With Christ in my heart can i be empowered to choose the right way.
Christ can empower us. And continual surrender to His will, my character is transformed.
Eph 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
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We don't choose HIM and HE doesn't choose us?
Could you expound more on why you say that?
Could you expound more on why you say that?
1 Peter 1:1-5 NASB
Doesn't Scripture say that none come to Jesus unless the Father draws him, and about those whom He chose He did predestine, God knowing the end from the beginning, even before the creation of the world, He being eternal and the Creator of all things? God knew before He created the world who would come to Him--we think we're making choices but if God knows everything that's ever going to happen then are there really multiple potentials for the future? Weren't we given our good works beforehand to walk into? I don't know that we have free will if everything that's going to happen will happen (according to God's foreknowledge)... We're quick to trust Him and to say that's He's in control but I believe that those who die in Christ were chosen (I never considered myself a Calvinist before)
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