Elin said:
We have no authorization in the NT for the mingling of flour and oil as a type of Jesus' "mingling" with the Holy Spirit.
is it an ancient recipe for pancakes?
The oil is the Spirit, both in Old and New, as quoted to you.
Scripture does not state that the Holy Spirit is oil.
Oil is only a representation of the Spirit, it is not the Spirit.
You're going to have to decide if the persons of the Trinity are "distinct," or "mixed" as you propose
in the mingling of flour and oil.
They can't be both.
Jeus Christ's humanity is the fine flour, unleavened.
The New Testament even tells you what leaven is.
The New Testament even tells you what leaven is.
Jesus is the Bread of Life, not flour.
And their daily bread was leavened.
You're going to have to decide if the persons of the Trinity are "distinct" or "mixed,"
they can't be both.
they can't be both.
Father, Son, and Spirit abide in One Another,
yet are still distinct Persons.
"Abide in" and "indwell" are not used of God the Father and God the Son in the NT's original language.
That's you talking. . .not Scripture.
No text states "abide in" nor "indwell" regarding the spirit Trinity.
Scripture does not state the spirit Trinity "indwells" or "abides in" one another.
they do not state "indwell" nor "abide in" within the spirit Trinity.
Scripture does not state the spirit Trinity "indwells" or "abides in" one another.
they do not state "indwell" nor "abide in" within the spirit Trinity.
The Son said He was in the Father on earth.
"The Father is in Me and I am in the Father" John 10:38.
And on earth His Father told Him what to say.
"Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me?
As the "oneness" of the Trinity does not mean their "sameness," for the persons are not the same person, so "in" does not mean their "location," it refers to their "oneness" (Jn 10:38) which has been previously discussed.
The words that I say to you I do not speak from Myself, but the Father who abides in Me does His works" 14:10.
You need a better translation.
(Cf "The Spirit of reality...will guide you into all the reality; for He will not speak from Himself, but what He hears He will speak...He will glorify Me, for He will receive of Mine and will declare it to you" 16:13-14.)
You need a better translation.
Father, Son, and Spirit are present in the humanity and the body of Jesus, the Son of God and the Son of Man.
"For in Him all the fullness was pleased to dwell...For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily."
"For in Him all the fullness was pleased to dwell...For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily."
"In Him dwells all...In Him all the fullness was pleased to dwell" Colossians 2:9; 1:19.
"The Father who abides in Me" John 14:10.
"Jesus full of the Holy Spirit" Luke 4:1.
"The Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming upon Him" Matthew 3:16.
"Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen, My Beloved in whom My soul has found delight. I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will announce justice to the Gentiles" Matthew 16:18, quoting Isaiah.
"The Holy Spirit descended in bodily form as a dove upon Him" Luke 3:22.
"I go...I am coming...My Father...henceforth you know Him and have seen Him...He who has seen Me has seen the Father...I am in the Father and the Father is in Me...I will give you another Comforter, that He may be with you forever, even the Spirit of reality...you know Him, because He abides with you and shall be in you...I am coming to you...In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you...Me...and My Father...We will come to him and make an abode with him"
John 14:3-23.
"He breathed into them and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit" 20:22.
You need a better translation. . .are you using the ESV?
The "seed" in 1 John 3:9 is the Spirit who is the Son.
"In this we know that we abide in Him and He in us, that He has given to us of His Spirit" 4:13.
"He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life" 5:12.
"The last Adam became a life-giving Spirit" 1 Corinthians 15:45.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit" 2 Corinthians 3:17.
"We will come to him and make an abode with him" John 14:23.
"As You Father are in Me and I in you, that they also may be in Us; that the world may believe that You have sent Me...
I in them and You in Me" 17:21-23.
"In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you [disciples] in Me, and I in you" 14:20.
"One Body and One Spirit...One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all" Ephesians 4:4-6.
To the contrary of this gross error:
"For in Him all the fullness was pleased to dwell...For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily"
Colossians 1:19; 2:9.
"The Father who abides in Me" 14:10.
"As You Father are in Me and I in you" 17:21.
"I am not alone, but I and the Father who sent Me" 8:16.
"Come to know and continue to know that the Father is in Me and I am in the Father" 10:38.
"Jesus full of the Holy Spirit" Luke 4:1.
"In that hour He exulted in the Holy Spirit" 10:21.
"He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for He gives the Spirit" John 3:34.
"The last Adam became a life-giving Spirit" 1 Corinthians 15:45.
"That which has been begotten in [Mary] is of the Holy Spirit" Matthew 1:20.
"In this we know that we abide in Him and He in us, that He has given to us of His Spirit" 4:13.
"He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life" 5:12.
"The last Adam became a life-giving Spirit" 1 Corinthians 15:45.
"Now the Lord is the Spirit" 2 Corinthians 3:17.
"We will come to him and make an abode with him" John 14:23.
"As You Father are in Me and I in you, that they also may be in Us; that the world may believe that You have sent Me...
I in them and You in Me" 17:21-23.
"In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you [disciples] in Me, and I in you" 14:20.
"One Body and One Spirit...One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all" Ephesians 4:4-6.
To the contrary of this gross error:
"For in Him all the fullness was pleased to dwell...For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily"
Colossians 1:19; 2:9.
"The Father who abides in Me" 14:10.
"As You Father are in Me and I in you" 17:21.
"I am not alone, but I and the Father who sent Me" 8:16.
"Come to know and continue to know that the Father is in Me and I am in the Father" 10:38.
"Jesus full of the Holy Spirit" Luke 4:1.
"In that hour He exulted in the Holy Spirit" 10:21.
"He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for He gives the Spirit" John 3:34.
"The last Adam became a life-giving Spirit" 1 Corinthians 15:45.
"That which has been begotten in [Mary] is of the Holy Spirit" Matthew 1:20.
Previously addressed. . .review the record.
Unless?...............what do you mean Elin, by your phrase: "the spirit Trinity"?
Since you mention text and Scripture, is "the spirit Trinity" a Scriptural phrase?
If so, where is it located?
Since you mention text and Scripture, is "the spirit Trinity" a Scriptural phrase?
If so, where is it located?
I think I asked you my same question before:
How do those 2 things contradict?
How does 'Eternally Begotten' contradict 'Dwelling In'?
Can not.........................both be true?
If not....................why not?
Thanks
How do those 2 things contradict?
How does 'Eternally Begotten' contradict 'Dwelling In'?
Can not.........................both be true?
If not....................why not?
Thanks
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