Pondering Revival of the saints.

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p_rehbein

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Magenta said:
OP has stated in another thread that they'd either most likely or for certain previously heard the gospel.
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Hmm.......so why discount it here? I have no idea of the spiritual status of the OP, but I can discern that his writings are confusing at best, and deceptive at worst.

He could be a wonderful Christian, full of the Holy Spirit, or not.......hard to tell from his writings which is true.
 
Magenta

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p_rehbein said:
Hmm.......so why discount it here? I have no idea of the spiritual status of the OP,
but I can discern that his writings are confusing at best, and deceptive at worst.

He could be a wonderful Christian, full of the Holy Spirit,
or not.......hard to tell from his writings which is true.
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I don't know. Since they had previously heard the gospel, the fact that they were
saved on a day when the gospel was not preached to them does not seem to mean
much, really. Plants can sprout and grow on a day when there is neither rain nor sunshine.

I wonder how many are saved sitting all by themselves as they ponder the meaning of life.
 
p_rehbein

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I DO like your comments on China, and I have studied the growth of the Christian Church there, and how it still grows, but at a terrible cost....

I would have posted all sorts of "likes" on your OP IF you had left out all that stuff posted BEFORE your comment

THE MERCY OF GOD

What followed that was a very informative read. What came before was not so much, and IMO, was borderline "differing Gospel.)

Anyway, these are my thoughts........
 
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The way to revival is with ads in the paper, foot, stomping music, a guest speaker. Shouting and phony mesmerizing tricks O the emotionalism is so heavy. Must be the Holy Spirit ... (sarcasm)
 
Rhomphaeam

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p_rehbein said:
One other point. In your OP, you speak of how Revival begins or some such....

(this)

All revivals begin with a few men and women who pray, intercede and groan for the hand of God on his people,

in Truth, ALL REVIVALS BEGIN with the Holy Spirit, and His touching of the Saints, and bringing them into the awareness of the need for their celebrating Revival.

This is an example of what I am saying as to how you ignore the Holy Spirit, the Gospel, and rely on the "works" of man.
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The Hebridean revival began in prayer. Not the prayer of Donald MacPhail and not the prayer of the praying men of Barvas - but in the hearts of two elderly sisters who were burdened for the church in Lewis. What are you burdened for, brother?
 
Magenta

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Beckie said:
The way to revival is with ads in the paper, foot stomping music, a guest speaker. Shouting and
phony mesmerizing tricks O the emotionalism is so heavy. Must be the Holy Spirit ... (sarcasm)
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What about laughing uncontrollably while rolling around on the floor,
barking like a dog, and falling down backwards in a swoon? :unsure:;):geek:
 
CS1

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Rhomphaeam said:
Brother, if you wish to imply an even harsher judgement than the one you have agreed to @#14 then you must do that as you are led of the Holy Spirit in obedience. And neither will I answer your question either. It does not concern me that men make of others what they are inclined to make of them. It is a necessary effect that sifts spiritual realities and can only be borne witness of by the Holy Spirit. Do as you wish, brother.
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answer the question
 
CS1

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Beckie said:
The way to revival is with ads in the paper, foot, stomping music, a guest speaker. Shouting and phony mesmerizing tricks O the emotionalism is so heavy. Must be the Holy Spirit ... (sarcasm)
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scoffing is no better. One can't speak to what one has never experienced would you not agree?
 
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Rhomphaeam said:
Brother, if you wish to imply an even harsher judgement than the one you have agreed to @#14 then you must do that as you are led of the Holy Spirit in obedience. And neither will I answer your question either. It does not concern me that men make of others what they are inclined to make of them. It is a necessary effect that sifts spiritual realities and can only be borne witness of by the Holy Spirit. Do as you wish, brother.
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imply are you saying you were never a satanist?
 
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imply are you saying you were never a satanist?
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Your command of English is really very poor, brother - especially in comprehension. Why would the Holy Spirit witness to you or anyone else whether any man really was, or really was not a one time Satanist? A present Satanist - perhaps - but a one time Satanist - why?

Stop looking for hidden meaning, brother - that is a mistaken mind - start reading the plain text. If you want to inflect such a meaning then you are able to do so - even as you have done. That is a matter between you and the Lord.
 
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answer the question
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You are so demanding, brother. Do you take that approach when speaking with unbelievers? I guess not. The Apostle Paul did say,, "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?" On that basis, seeing that I have borne witness of Christ and have stated plainly in threads you have read, that I have the gift of the Holy Spirit and am born again - then I ought to be encouraged by your stern attitude. What I won't do, brother is yield to your spirit.
 
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Rhomphaeam said:
Your command of English is really very poor, brother - especially in comprehension. Why would the Holy Spirit witness to you or anyone else whether any man really was, or really was not a one time Satanist? A present Satanist - perhaps - but a one time Satanist - why?

Stop looking for hidden meaning, brother - that is a mistaken mind - start reading the plain text. If you want to inflect such a meaning then you are able to do so - even as you have done. That is a matter between you and the Lord.
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very simple question are you saying you were never a satanist? very simple yes or no.
 
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Rhomphaeam said:
You are so demanding, brother. Do you take that approach when speaking with unbelievers? I guess not. The Apostle Paul did say,, "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?" On that basis, seeing that I have borne witness of Christ and have stated plainly in threads you have read, that I have the gift of the Holy Spirit and am born against - then I ought to be encouraged by your stern attitude. What I won't do, brother is yield to your spirit.

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Listen I am not demanding and which is it? I can't speak the English language well enough but I am too demanding?
Also, that cry of judging will not work with me ok, so please if you think I am judging you you are wrong if you think I am judging your words and drawing an understanding of your Biblical perspective you are right. Put that judgment calling snowflake ideology used to silence and shame people to not ask the truth of people. It will not work :)
 
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Rhomphaeam said:
You are so demanding, brother. Do you take that approach when speaking with unbelievers? I guess not. The Apostle Paul did say,, "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?" On that basis, seeing that I have borne witness of Christ and have stated plainly in threads you have read, that I have the gift of the Holy Spirit and am born again - then I ought to be encouraged by your stern attitude. What I won't do, brother is yield to your spirit.
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I am asking you to yield to the truth and answer the question yes or no were you ever a satanist?
 
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p_rehbein said:
So, I guess we just throw away our Bibles because the Scriptures within are not Truth?

Romans, Chapter 10:

9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

16) But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


I do not know what Church Group/Denomination you belong to, or, if you even belong to one, but whatever it is, they teach a different Gospel than the one I read in my KJV.

In truth, it sounds much like a mix between pagan teachings and Christian teachings, and that ain't the Gospel of Jesus IMO....
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Amen , There’s only the one gospel in which we were warned many would come along later and distort.

to Know the truth we have only one place to go and one word to believe those spoken by the lord. If we do that all Of the rest makes perfect sense of we reject Jesus doctrine the rest becomes misunderstood and twisted into fallacy

one form of grace rejects Jesus words that teach us to repent and live right .

Gods grace is found in accepting and believing Jesus words that teach us how to repent and live right there’s Amit of people who believe the word grace saves and others who understand the word of Jesus Christ saves and is full of grace and truth we’re called to believe the truth and receive his grace not reject his word and embrace the word grace as defined by Webster
 
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Rhomphaeam said:
Your command of English is really very poor, brother - especially in comprehension. Why would the Holy Spirit witness to you or anyone else whether any man really was, or really was not a one time Satanist? A present Satanist - perhaps - but a one time Satanist - why?

Stop looking for hidden meaning, brother - that is a mistaken mind - start reading the plain text. If you want to inflect such a meaning then you are able to do so - even as you have done. That is a matter between you and the Lord.
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were you a satanist?
Why did you leave Satanism? That should be a difficult thing to speak on one's testimony, is it?
 
Rhomphaeam

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Listen I am not demanding and which is it? I can't speak the English language well enough but I am too demanding?

Also, that cry of judging will not work with me ok, so please if you think I am judging you you are wrong if you think I am judging your words and drawing an understanding of your Biblical perspective you are right. Put that judgment calling snowflake ideology used to silence and shame people to not ask the truth of people. It will not work :)
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Brother, you need to calm down and stop utilising political psychology to judge me to hold to a snowflake ideology. I genuinely don't hold your concern in any more regard than recognising your right to express it. That is a matter between you and the Lord. It is your obedience and so praise the Lord. Just expect to have to give an account from the Lord - as I must do also.

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I am asking you to yield to the truth and answer the question yes or no were you ever a satanist?
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No, brother, you are asking that I yield to yourself. I have already said plainly I won't do it. And for the record I have stated five times on this forum what my condition was when I was found by Christ in 1984. My profile is available for you or anyone to read along with the entirety of what I have posted. God bless.
 
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