Popeless Catholics

[dcontroversal]

While I am not for Catholic Doctrine at all, I also have to admit that I can't remember any part of the Bible dealing with any cannonical selection process of specific books.

I agree with this, but will add....the Word of God does not contradict itself.....

Baptism (immersion) cannot be sprinkling (Rantizo)

Jesus as the 1 and only mediator between God and men cannot also include Mary or a Pope

we can rightfully and biblically deduce if something is correct and or false based upon the revealed truth found within scripture...or a lack thereof...right?

 

[phil36]

Hi Phil,

It's me again.

FORGET Trent.
FORGET Vatican I

Go to Vatican II------OK
Go to the CCC, depend on THAT.

Fran

HiFran,

Your post is very confusing as you have posted my answer to Bladerunner, and I connot see the connection between that and your post? (cf;post #72)

I looked ccc up, and I got ccc shoes and bags??? Yes the RC have a catechism, so do a lot of protestants churchs, like the Presbyterian one I go to. But the official doctrine of the RC is Vatican II. (I don't agree with it, but at least I know what I disagree with).

Regarding your earlier post, you asked this:

If you tell me who John Knox is, I'll tell you what I think of him.

I'll answer, He was a Christian man.

 

[Ahwatukee]

No Jerry not you.
Here's a point.
Who so far has mentioned the Episcopal church?
I asked about it in the OP?
Does nobody know anything about it?
Or do those that know about it think their views on the RCC is more important to talk about?
If that's the case, you should start your own thread.
As episcopalians go, what can we say of them in comparison to the RCC.

This would be a legitimate post concerning the OP as far as I can see.

Greetings AllenW,

Why are you concerned about denominations? Are these not the things that divide those in Christ. I follow Apollos, I follow Paul, I follow Peter. There should be no denominations, but only those who follow Christ. Our claim should be that of Paul's:

"As for me, may I never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ."

 

[Magenta]

Even though Magenta's rep power is off da charts....I tried to rep this post but need to spread a bit before I can....somebody do it for me!

I already did.

Thank you DC.

Allen, you actually repped a previous post of mine

But who's counting? *runs for cover*

 

[Ariel82]

Would you like to do a study of Church history and their various branching off and why with me?

Been meaning to research more into it but will post an image when I get a chance.

 

[dcontroversal]

Thank you DC.

Allen, you actually repped a previous post of mine

But who's counting? *runs for cover*

Thanks back........peace!

 

[Ariel82]

Here is a basic then protestant denominations branch even more.

 

[AllenW]

HiFran,

Your post is very confusing as you have posted my answer to Bladerunner, and I connot see the connection between that and your post? (cf;post #72)

I looked ccc up, and I got ccc shoes and bags??? Yes the RC have a catechism, so do a lot of protestants churchs, like the Presbyterian one I go to. But the official doctrine of the RC is Vatican II. (I don't agree with it, but at least I know what I disagree with).

Regarding your earlier post, you asked this:



I'll answer, He was a Christian man.

I think you love trouble.
I think you purposely did not give her the answer just to cause her trouble.
Are you like this all the time?
I'm surprised anyone even talks to you.
Is that why I'm talking to you?
Because I'm new here?
Once I get to know you, I won't bother, right?

 

[phil36]

I think you love trouble.
I think you purposely did not give her the answer just to cause her trouble.
Are you like this all the time?
I'm surprised anyone even talks to you.
Is that why I'm talking to you?
Because I'm new here?
Once I get to know you, I won't bother, right?

Hi Allen,

It's easy for people to read what I have written.

As I said in earlier, Your Posts are: (just look at the above).

Argumentum ad Hominem

 

[AllenW]

Hi Allen,

It's easy for people to read what I have written.

As I said in earlier, Your Posts are: (just look at the above).

Argumentum ad Hominem

I like that avatar of yours.
Everytime I look at it, I imagine blackening in a few teeth.
I get a good chuckle.
Thanx

 

[Depleted]

Hey Magenta, look!
We have an all knowing Christian with us.
Aren't we the lucky ones.

Hey. I was Catholic. And now I'm reformed. (With a few other churches in between.) No one has to be "all knowing" to get the general gist of services. Just because you haven't taken the time to figure it out, doesn't mean no one has.

So basically, you want people to guess what you want and only accept those things you want -- real or not?

I think I get why you have such a problem with the in-laws.

 

[phil36]

I like that avatar of yours.
Everytime I look at it, I imagine blackening in a few teeth.
I get a good chuckle.
Thanx

Praying for you AllenW. That you find peace from your anger. I mean that in a caring and loving manner.

 

[FranC]

drop the internet searching
drop the customs and traditions
drop all the twisted fancy words
read the bible for how the early church operated
find a church that worships and operates as the first century church did
mission accomplished


There was only 1 church in the beginning. With mans wisdom, we now believe there to be many many churches (denominations). I'm sure there are many who go into buildings every week where people talk about God and pray and teach, but if they are not following the order that God instituted in the bible then they are not the church and will likely hear the words of Jesus in the end say:

[h=1]Matthew 7:21-23English Standard Version (ESV)[/h] [SUP]21 [/SUP]“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [SUP]22 [/SUP]On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ [SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Could you please give some examples?
Do you follow the Didache?

Fran

 

[FranC]

Hi Jerry,

There is only one church. No one when referring to denominations is saying any different.

Hey Phil,

There are many churches.

There is only one Church. (the body of Christ).

Fran

 

[Ariel82]

Wow, hitting below the belt to drag in law troubles into a simple thread about various church denominations.

But I have only read the 1st and last page...probably missed the fighting in the middle.

 

[Ariel82]

This splits the major protestant branches more....many stemed from the Church of England split.

I haven't really researched much about it but have been meaning to. Will share if you are interested, otherwise will just keep gathering notes and figuring it out myself.

As for how it all plays in the end times? God people are scattered among all denominations and nations..wheat and tares mixed in the churches and the world. Only God can truly tell the difference.

 

[dcontroversal]

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Here is a basic then protestant denominations branch even more.

This chart lacks a bunch of truth......

1. Straight through a line of true churches.....Jesus started his church and promised the perpetuity of it.
2. Many groups left off that held to the main tenants of truth
3. Some groups listed did not have their roots in some that are listed

 

[AllenW]

Greetings AllenW,

Why are you concerned about denominations? Are these not the things that divide those in Christ. I follow Apollos, I follow Paul, I follow Peter. There should be no denominations, but only those who follow Christ. Our claim should be that of Paul's:

"As for me, may I never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Hi I asked about denominations.
Why is it so difficult for people to discuss them?
Isn't it something that separates us in certain ways?
Are people here on this forum offended in some way if we talk about Lutherans, or Methodists, or Presbyterians, or Episcopalians?
Are there not people on this forum that belong to these denominations?
Are their beliefs in some ways molded from these denominations?
Aren't there barriers to be broken here?
Am I the only one here on this forum with these concerns?
And even if I were, shouldn't I be treated with a little more respect, if for no other reason than that you are all born again Christians and you want to put your best foot forward instead of attacking someone you think doesn't agree or believe what you do?
Do you see my point?
Or should I add more?

 

[Ariel82]

It's an overview. Which denomination do you feel isn't represented?

It covers the basic ones the OP lists.

 

[Ariel82]

Denominations give you a blanket idea of church beliefs. However each church and each member is different and what they stress is different.

In our new members class we go through church history in a limited scope.

I have always put it on my list to study the differences more.