PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

[TheDivineWatermark]

I don't think it is a matter of people bending or twisting or pretending the Last Day is not in scripture. It is a matter of interpreting what scripture means when it talks about the The Last Day. You seem so convinced that the prophesy of the Last Day is a final 24 hour day but when you examine all the scriptures on the subject the Great Day of His Wrath in Revelation covers more than one day so this MUST be taken into consideration. They start saying that The Great Day of his wrath has come and then many judgments are poured out which cover more than one day, and yet it is all called the DAY of THE LORD in prophesy. This is not difficult to see when all of the scriptures that use that phrase are laid out for your examination. Therefore it is not possible to prove a point based on only a couple of verses that use this phrase while ignoring all others that shed more light as to its meaning.

Well said. Yes.

 

[Truth7t7]

...and you use "red" which is perfectly okay. No problems "reading" that. Got it.

Good to know. Thanks.

Near perfect response, keep that format going, same size, hyphens for notice, and bold with the same color, yes I use red.

Serious: 90% better, easy to read.

 

[Absolutely]

I agree 100% scripture interprets itself

The greatest scripture quoted 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 to falsely claim a (pre-trib) rapture, is nothing more than the second coming of Jesus Christ, and the "Last Day Resurrection" of the believer.

1. The Lord Himself descends from heaven
2. The Dead in Christ shall rise first

1 Thess 4:16-17KJV
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumph of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The resurrection of the believer takes place on "The Last Day" simple, will you now bend and twist the scripture, regarding the meaning of "The Last Day" or perhaps pretend as if it dosent exist

John 6:40KJV
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:23-24KJV
23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

You leave off ;Lot and noah,the foolish virgins,the 2 escape verses,the last supper dialog,and the catching away of rev 14 during the gt.

How sound!
What a great position!

...iow you have to reframe verses or,as you have demonstrated,leave them off.

 

[Absolutely]

A little wiggle from the clear truth presented, gotta keep that pre-trib rapture alive

We will add 1 Corinthians 15:21-24 below, we clearly see the second coming, the last day resurrection?

(Then Cometh The End)

Will you now wiggle and remove God's clear words below concerning (The Last Day) resurrection?

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The resurrection of the believer takes place on "The Last Day" simple, will you now bend and twist the scripture, regarding the meaning of "The Last Day" or perhaps pretend as if it dosent exist

John 6:40KJV
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:23-24KJV
23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

"Last day" is not a magic phrase to void the pretrib verses.

You isolate to reframe.

Your entire deal is a shell game and blatant disregard for our verses.

" trump"
"Last trump"
"7 th trump"
"Last day"
"Mcdonald"
"Lahaye"
"Dispensation"
....and others


Your entire deal is just a string of extra biblical cliches

 

[Truth7t7]

You leave off ;Lot and noah,the foolish virgins,the 2 escape verses,the last supper dialog,and the catching away of rev 14 during the gt.

How sound!
What a great position!

...iow you have to reframe verses or,as you have demonstrated,leave them off.

You have six subjects mentioned above, please present your claim one at a time, I look forward to you presented claims with scripture referenced

 

[Truth7t7]

"Last day" is not a magic phrase to void the pretrib verses.

You isolate to reframe.

Your entire deal is a shell game and blatant disregard for our verses.

" trump"
"Last trump"
"7 th trump"
"Last day"
"Mcdonald"
"Lahaye"
"Dispensation"
....and others


Your entire deal is just a string of extra biblical cliches

Speak to the presented scripture, we started with 2 Thess 4:16-17, it clearly states

"The Lord Himself Shall Descend"

"The Dead In Christ Rises First"

1 Corinthians 15:21-24 below shows this same second coming and resurrection with added info.

(Afterward They That Are Christ At His Coming. Then Cometh The End)

Do you have a hard time with God's words in presented truth?

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 isnt a pre-trib rapture, it's (Then Cometh The End)

We will add 1 Corinthians 15:21-24 below, we clearly see the second coming, the last day resurrection?

(Then Cometh The End)

Will you now wiggle and remove God's clear words below concerning (The Last Day) resurrection?

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The resurrection of the believer takes place on "The Last Day" simple, will you now bend and twist the scripture, regarding the meaning of "The Last Day" or perhaps pretend as if it dosent exist

John 6:40KJV
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:23-24KJV
23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

 

[Prycejosh1987]

Blessings family! I am asking you what you believe scripturally! I am NOT asking for a fierce debate of "why I'm right and you are wrong" here! I and most likely others want to know the facts about His end time coming. I'm not looking for any of you to tell me what you've been taught nor what your Pastor says! I am sincere in my asking and I need feed back that is easy to understand in the word,organized and precise! Simplistic terms please but be concise to prove your point. I have been serving the Lord many years and until now,no one has satisfied my question. There seems to be MUCH division on this study! So plz play nice and help myself and others to understand! Thank you in advance for your input and your Christian behaviour!🙏🙏🙏

I think it that the rapture is pre-tribulation. We have to be rescued from the devils wrath and God's which are in the tribulation. The bible says, we have to see if we are accounted worthy to escape. Escape what? the tribulation.