Preach flat earth and lead people to Christ.

[pckts]

Let me be specific (about my conclusion of the facts I see and determine thru my spirit first; brain second. Yet, ultimately brain as well seeking the truth which, again, my spirit testifies to)! You show signs of being a coupon shopper fact collector, which is not the same as a truth finder. Why have calculatingly altered the facts to suit your point?


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Its ironic how some people can look at the same pictures; same facts, and determine diametrically opposed arguments......(sounds like a biblically spiritual issue doesn't it?)..... The question isn't about always the facts, but its about the spirits interpretations determining the truth therein. (Also, ironically, I would image you will agree with this trying to prove your points.....). The earth is not flat - I need not pick off your coupons validity; all of which are crassly invalid.

Well I'm glad you attached my quote already, took the words out of my mouth.

 

[slave]

Explain how you get around this fact: Since the earth is rotating (see the “Foucault Pendulum” experiment for a definite proof, if you are doubtful), the consistent oval-shadow it produces in each and every lunar eclipse proves that the earth is not only round but spherical – absolutely, utterly, beyond a shadow of a doubt not flat.

 

[slave]

Also, we are told that two astronauts went out and about while one stayed in the command module. The photo shows 2 astronauts and the shadow of a third figure, the shadow doesn't belong to either of the astronauts pictured.

Does this launch look real to you?

[video=youtube;sj6a0Wrrh1g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj6a0Wrrh1g[/video]

The gold foil always looks absolutely ridiculous regardless, but does this launch look real to you?

Of course this is a real take-off......if you live on the basis of feelings you will be lost in many directions. the alignment of the background hills are identical to all the photo placements with them in person on the moon. The film back then had a widening affect which is natural, the gravity issues explain the laugh oddities and every one of your issues have answers...but who has time or will need to explain every one of them, you haven't proved a flat earth, and this is the point.

As far as the ridiculous gold foil...


The answer to your question is that gold reflects the infrared energy (heat rays)
from the sun more efficiently than silver or aluminum.

Why is this important for spacecraft and astronauts?

One of the more difficult problems in designing a spacecraft is radiating the waste heat generated within the spacecraft back into space to prevent over heating. The two greatest generators of heat on a typical communications satellite are the solar cell panels which are about 22% efficient and the microwave transmitters which are about 65% efficient. What the efficiency means is that only 22% of the solar energy incident on the solar cell arrays is converted into electricity and 78% heats the spacecraft structure.

The microwave transmitters radiate about 65% of the battery power in microwave beams for communications and 35% of the battery power used in the transmitters generates waste heating of the spacecraft structure. Today communications satellites have solar cell arrays that generate 10,000 watts of electrical power which is stored in the spacecraft batteries. This means that about 60,000 watts of waste heat are generated by the solar cells. The microwave transmitters convert about 6,000 watts of battery power into 4,000 watts of microwave power, generating 2000 watts of waste heat within the spacecraft.

Special black radiating panels are used to radiate the many thousands of watts of waste heat back into space so that the spacecraft structure stays at a reasonable temperature and the electronics and solar cells are not destroyed by overheating. These radiating panels are aimed away from the sun into cold deep space so they do not gather solar heat.

So what can we do about the thousands of watts of solar energy that illuminate the spacecraft structure and could generate even greater amounts of waste heat? We cover the exposed spacecraft structure with very lightweight, thermally reflecting blankets of metalized mylar to reflect about 98% of the solar energy back into space with only 2% heating the spacecraft. These metalized mylar blankets are similar to the metalized balloons that are now for sale in flower and party shops. However, the very thin reflective mylar coatings are gold rather that the aluminum used in the balloons.Aluminum is a very efficient reflector of visible light generated by the sun; however, there is a great deal of invisible infrared energy also generated by the sun. Aluminum is not a very efficient reflector at infrared wavelengths. Gold is an efficient reflector of both visible wavelengths and infrared wavelengths. Infrared telescopes use gold plated mirrors for the same reason. Gold is more expensive than aluminum and is softer and scratches more easily so great care must be taken when placing the gold plated mylar blankets on the spacecraft before launch.

If you look closely at the visors used by the astronauts on the moon and during space walks, you will see that they also have a very thin gold coating to reduce infrared solar heating within the helmet.

 

[pckts]

Of course this is a real take-off......if you live on the basis of feelings you will be lost in many directions. the alignment of the background hills are identical to all the photo placements with them in person on the moon. The film back then had a widening affect which is natural, the gravity issues explain the laugh oddities and every one of your issues have answers...but who has time or will need to explain every one of them, you haven't proved a flat earth, and this is the point.

As far as the ridiculous gold foil...


The answer to your question is that gold reflects the infrared energy (heat rays)
from the sun more efficiently than silver or aluminum.
Why is this important for spacecraft and astronauts?

One of the more difficult problems in designing a spacecraft is radiating the waste heat generated within
the spacecraft back into space to prevent over heating. The two greatest generators of heat on a typical
communications satellite are the solar cell panels which are about 22% efficient and the microwave
transmitters which are about 65% efficient. What the efficiency means is that only 22% of the solar energy

incident on the solar cell arrays is converted into electricity and 78% heats the spacecraft structure. The
microwave transmitters radiate about 65% of the battery power in microwave beams for communications
and 35% of the battery power used in the transmitters generates waste heating of the spacecraft structure.
Today communications satellites have solar cell arrays that generate 10,000 watts of electrical power
which is stored in the spacecraft batteries. This means that about 60,000 watts of waste heat are
generated by the solar cells. The microwave transmitters convert about 6,000 watts of battery power
into 4,000 watts of microwave power, generating 2000 watts of waste heat within the spacecraft.

Special black radiating panels are used to radiate the many thousands of watts of waste heat back into
space so that the spacecraft structure stays at a reasonable temperature and the electronics and solar cells
are not destroyed by overheating. These radiating panels are aimed away from the sun into cold deep
space so they do not gather solar heat.

So what can we do about the thousands of watts of solar energy that illuminate the spacecraft structure
and could generate even greater amounts of waste heat? We cover the exposed spacecraft structure with
very lightweight, thermally reflecting blankets of metalized mylar to reflect about 98% of the solar energy
back into space with only 2% heating the spacecraft. These metalized mylar blankets are similar to the
metalized balloons that are now for sale in flower and party shops. However, the very thin reflective mylar
coatings are gold rather that the aluminum used in the balloons.Aluminum is a very efficient reflector of
visible light generated by the sun; however, there is a great deal of invisible infrared energy also generated
by the sun. Aluminum is not a very efficient reflector at infrared wavelengths. Gold is an efficient
reflector of both visible wavelengths and infrared wavelengths. Infrared telescopes use gold plated mirrors
for the same reason. Gold is more expensive than aluminum and is softer and scratches more easily so
great care must be taken when placing the gold plated mylar blankets on the spacecraft before launch.

If you look closely at the visors used by the astronauts on the moon and during space walks, you will see
that they also have a very thin gold coating to reduce infrared solar heating within the helmet.

Explain how you get around this fact: Since the earth is rotating (see the “Foucault Pendulum” experiment for a definite proof, if you are doubtful), the consistent oval-shadow it produces in each and every lunar eclipse proves that the earth is not only round but spherical – absolutely, utterly, beyond a shadow of a doubt not flat.

I understand you have explanation for these phenomenon using your globe model, but other explanations can exist and fit just as well with the flat earth model.

The gold foil, it looks like it's about to fall off like a half opened Christmas present.

The fact you believe in rotation and the gold foil, should not stop you from questioning the space programs. That is why I started with the chinese one because you have less attachment to it and may be able to question it.

As for that launch, it looks like a low budget sci-fi movie. Tell me you think the chinese space walk video looks real, I need to measure your deductive reasoning skills.

 

[pckts]

....Again, what is the point to your question? Where are you (dragging) leading us?

I want to convince you the chinese space program is fake, so that you are open to the possibility of governments faking outer space.

Then I want you to question why the other nations do not out them, and instead CNN reports on these "achievements" as if they are real.

Then we will go from there

Here is the chinese moon landing from 2013:

[video=youtube;VxxZ2CA1JQk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxxZ2CA1JQk[/video]

And CNN reporting it:
Chinese moon rover launched successfully - CNN.com

 

[slave]

As for that launch, it looks like a low budget sci-fi movie. Tell me you think the chinese space walk video looks real, I need to measure your deductive reasoning skills.

Deductive reasoning skills I leave up to the Spirit of God communicating with my spirit, which in turn seeks knowledge out as well. I am wondering why you need to deduce my skills instead of using yours to deduce the facts I mentioned..

Since I have discerned a great 'doubting premise' in you of all things factual, let me deduce your skill level: "How real do you think these pictures are?"

 

[pckts]

Deductive reasoning skills I leave up to the Spirit of God communicating with my spirit, which in turn seeks knowledge out as well. I am wondering why you need to deduce my skills instead of using yours to deduce the facts I mentioned..

Since I have discerned a great 'doubting premise' in you of all things factual, let me deduce your skill level: "How real do you think these pictures are?"

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So you believe that Chinese moon landing occurred on the real moon, and that the space walk video occurred in outer space?

You won't say it, but you also don't deny it. Either way, this is too indirect and passive agressive of a discussion for me to enjoy. If you change your mind about either the space walk or Chinese moon landing let me know.

 

[slave]

I want to convince you the chinese space program is fake, so that you are open to the possibility of governments faking outer space.

Then I want you to question why the other nations do not out them, and instead CNN reports on these "achievements" as if they are real.

Then we will go from there

Here is the chinese moon landing from 2013:

[video=youtube;VxxZ2CA1JQk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxxZ2CA1JQk[/video]

And CNN reporting it:
Chinese moon rover launched successfully - CNN.com

...so that you are open to the possibility of governments faking outer space.

Then I want you to question why the other nations do not out them, and instead CNN reports on these "achievements" as if they are real.

Well, first of all the CNN News industry is nothing but the world system in action, thus, they will spin a story...but to become a lunatic about facts that are provable and not in error is absurd. Ask yourself, why is this so important for me to prove fallacies? To what end does thinking our world is flat change anything important over what you have , literally manufactured, as urgent? Where is God in your life in all of this?>?

I think the more I learned about you I would better be able to answer your questions about a flat earth concern. And I know if you learned more about the person of Jesus and God you would learn more about yourself...

 

[pckts]

Well, first of all the CNN News industry is nothing but the world system in action, thus, they will spin a story...but to become a lunatic about facts that are provable and not in error is absurd. Ask yourself, why is this so important for me to prove fallacies? To what end does thinking our world is flat change anything important over what you have , literally manufactured, as urgent? Where is God in your life in all of this?>?

I think the more I learned about you I would better be able to answer your questions about a flat earth concern. And I know if you learned more about the person of Jesus and God you would learn more about yourself...

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Yes of course I will learn more about me from learning Christ. I read Matthew and Mark and I'm going to re-read Mark because the first time I read KJV and I think I missed a lot in translation, then I'm going to read the next two books afterwards hopefully very soon.

I'm not allowed to research flat earth? And I don't think it's "urgent". I enjoy it and this is a thread discussing it so I talk about it here as a hobby. I don't watch TV, well I'm watching better call sual tonight, but I don't channel surf. I don't think it's wrong to have other hobbies.

You are not interested in flat earth or of seeing if the world system has spun lies that you believe are true like the Chinese space program, so why are you wasting our time in a flat earth thread?

 

[Gabriel2020]

That;s simple, they look for other explanations ,rationalizing what sounds better to them. leaning to their own understanding. let the Holy Spirit reveal the truth and confirm it. The spirit dwells in the brain,the head of man. the brain retains knowledge and keep it there.

 

[Dino246]

A relevant question for anyone in the Southern hemisphere, especially south of the Tropic of Capricorn...

Here in the Northern, in summer, the morning and evening sun appear to come from the North, which would indicate a spherical earth on a tilt, as most of us believe. This by itself does not disprove a flat earth with the North pole at the centre. However, if those in the Southern hemisphere see the summer sun coming from the South in morning and evening, that would disprove the flat-earth theory, because the angles would be impossible. So, Southerners... what see you?

 

[graceNpeace]

A relevant question for anyone in the Southern hemisphere, especially south of the Tropic of Capricorn...

Here in the Northern, in summer, the morning and evening sun appear to come from the North, which would indicate a spherical earth on a tilt, as most of us believe. This by itself does not disprove a flat earth with the North pole at the centre. However, if those in the Southern hemisphere see the summer sun coming from the South in morning and evening, that would disprove the flat-earth theory, because the angles would be impossible. So, Southerners... what see you?

Aren't the facts just so confusing...

 

[PHart]

The Earth is flat.

Some gansta dude told me you're spelling it wrong. It's phlat.

 

[88]

I think when people fly around the Earth in one direction and end up in the same place this gives me pause to think the Earth is round...

 

[Zen]