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K
Yes the bible clearly says that the Messiah is cut off at the end of the 69th week.
If verse 27 was referring to the Messiah then the proceeding verse should have said then Messiah is cut off half way through the 70th week.
Because the confirming of the covenant starts the 70th week, therefore Jesus could not have been the one who made this covenant since He was cut off at the end of the 69th week. He did not start His ministry at the beginning of the 70th week as by some this is how it would have to be if that was the case. We can not go and change scriptures to make them fit, if the end of the 69th week speaks to Jesus crucifixion then the covenant to start the 70th week can not be the Lord....
Shame on you for denying the Lord brought in the New Covenant, what Covenant do you think was confirmed by Messiah in his disciples? And you also suppose the Lord cannot confirm His covenant to his disciples unless he is physically present with them, foolishness!
Also, there is no mention of what week the covenant was confirmed, it just says in "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:"
1 Corinthians 1:6-8[SUP]6 [/SUP]Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Hebrews 2:3-4
[SUP]3 [/SUP]How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
Your straining at a gnat in order to swallow a whole camel of lies Ken.
Also, there is no mention of what week the covenant was confirmed, it just says in "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:"
1 Corinthians 1:6-8[SUP]6 [/SUP]Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Hebrews 2:3-4
[SUP]3 [/SUP]How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
Your straining at a gnat in order to swallow a whole camel of lies Ken.
K
Once again you are taking scriptures speaking of two different things to make them mean the same thing !!!
The covenant that is spoken of in Daniel 9:27 is not the new covenant that the Lord brought in, because the covenant the Lord made was not for only 7 years and the daily sacrifices were not put to an end at Jesus crucifixion. Those sacrifices did not end tell 70 A.D. when the temple was destroyed, and that is the only reason they stopped because there was no more temple.
That covenant the Lord issued in has now lasted almost 2,000 years, and will last many more depending on when the Lord returns and the tribulation starts. You still refuse to see by history and the Jewish calendar the prophetic weeks each lasted 7 years a piece as the first 69 weeks were exactly 483 years.
You still want to go with your undetermined time philosophy when a quick easy study can show that is false, that a prophetic week is 7 years. Therefore the 70th week is 7 years in length, any teaching that does not agree with that is false !!!
The scriptures do not say the covenant only lasts 7 years, that's your misrepresentation of the scriptures. That verse says "He shall confirm the Covenant with many for one week." It does not say it only lasts 7 years as you imply, that's your own twisting of the text.
And here's a new flash for ya, a Covenant is not in effect until the death of the Testator, which is Jesus Christ's death. So your theory that the Covenant mentioned could not be the New Covenant because Jesus was cut off before that time is bogus, as it also shows your lack of understanding.
Hebrews 9:14-17[SUP]14 [/SUP]How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
And here's a new flash for ya, a Covenant is not in effect until the death of the Testator, which is Jesus Christ's death. So your theory that the Covenant mentioned could not be the New Covenant because Jesus was cut off before that time is bogus, as it also shows your lack of understanding.
Hebrews 9:14-17[SUP]14 [/SUP]How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
K
I have not rejected anything but your interpretation of the words !!!
So please stop passing false judgment on me as you are now doing no better than those you were trying to call out about a week ago.
I nowhere denied that the Lord brought in a new covenant, just that the covenant in Daniel 9:27 is not the new covenant because it clearly says for one week. And a prophetic week is 7 years !!!
You've denied all the scriptures and testimony of Jesus I gave you concerning what temple was destroyed to fulfill AOD, the scriptures concerning antichrist and man of sin, not being a single man figure yet to come in the future, but rather a spirit working in many deceivers. And you also denied Jesus' words concerning when the Prince of this world was cast out of heaven to earth. Now your denying The Prince Messiah is the one who brought in the Covenant in Daniel 9. Shame on you!
K
Once again I denied your interpretation of scriptures, not the scriptures themselves !!!
You try to come across as being all knowledgeable in the word, but the bible shows that is a sign of pride when you do that and not even see what others have run across you. You want to mash scriptures that are speaking of different things and try to make them speaking of the same thing.
Not all scriptures in the bible of a temple are speaking of the body of believers, as you try to make all the NT scriptures say.
The A.O.D. is not the destruction of the temple, and is not speaking of being placed in the body of believers.
The bible clearly shows the A.O.D. is when an idol/abomination is placed within the holy of holies inside the temple. If the A.O.D. has already taken place then the Lord's second coming would have already happened because the bible shows this event takes place exactly 3 1/2 years before the Lord's return.
But you still want to stick with your undetermined theology that is unbiblical and can be easily refuted if you would open your mind and do a Jewish history and custom study.
Establishing a Covenant, what a concept. 
Genesis 6:18
But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.
Genesis 9:9
And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
Genesis 9:11
And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
Genesis 9:17
And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.
Genesis 17:7
And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
Genesis 17:19
And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
Genesis 17:21
But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
Exodus 6:4
And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers.
Leviticus 26:9
For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.
Deuteronomy 8:18
But thou shalt remember the Lord thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.
Isaiah 49:8
Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;
Ezekiel 16:60
Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.
Ezekiel 16:62
And I will establish my covenant with thee; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord:
Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Genesis 6:18
But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.
Genesis 9:9
And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
Genesis 9:11
And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
Genesis 9:17
And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.
Genesis 17:7
And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
Genesis 17:19
And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
Genesis 17:21
But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
Exodus 6:4
And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers.
Leviticus 26:9
For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.
Deuteronomy 8:18
But thou shalt remember the Lord thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.
Isaiah 49:8
Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;
Ezekiel 16:60
Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.
Ezekiel 16:62
And I will establish my covenant with thee; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord:
Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.