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watchmen said:
The scriptures you give have nothing to do with our conversation, unless you are suggesting that anyone that claims Jesus is Lord does not teach anything that is false. I know you do not believe that because many people who call Jesus Lord have opposing views on many other perifocal issue. We can't all be right about everything. For instance I call Christ Lord, and Perry Stone calls Christ Lord. Yet I believe everything else he says is false. Either he is right and I am wrong or I am right and he is wrong, we can't both be right. Yet we both call Christ Lord. So the scriptures you gave were completely irrelevant to the discussion, and instead of insulting you by saying so I tried to stay on topic, and for this you insult me.


Perry Stone is just as dangerous or even more so than Oprah Winfrey because no true Christian would be swayed by Oprah, just the world, but Perry is deceiving many Christians with his false teachings.
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I do not know how I have insulted you, but if I have it was ubintentional and I apologize,
All I'm saying is evil is associated with the devil as all evil comes from him, so when you say someone is evil, then that also implies that they are from their father the devil. The scriptures that you say are irrelevant, to me they mean that to say sincerely that Jesus is Lord can only be from The Holy Spirit and if that is the case then how can he be a false teacher and have the Spirit of The Lord dwelling in him? As the Word says "A house that is divided shall not stand"
Oprah Winfrey used to profess to be a Christian, now she advocates that their are many paths to Heaven and Jesus is not the only way.

Anyway I think this is futile as I've seen that nothing is going to be gained and certainly no edifying of the Body so subject closed on my part.
 
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I absolutely agree greybeard, Oprah is allowing herself to be used by satan. I stopped watching almost a year ago when I saw the program where she said there are more than one way to heaven. Praise the Lord for the lone voice in her audience who stood up for the Lord and had the words. I was so proud of her! most of my friends are non-believers and listen to the Oprah garbage and it really makes it tough to talk to them about the Lord when they are so deceived. I pray for Oprahs true conversion, in the meanwhile I dont watch her show... if a portion of it is trash, to me it should be all discarded as trash.
 
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imoss said:
I absolutely agree greybeard, Oprah is allowing herself to be used by satan. I stopped watching almost a year ago when I saw the program where she said there are more than one way to heaven. Praise the Lord for the lone voice in her audience who stood up for the Lord and had the words. I was so proud of her! most of my friends are non-believers and listen to the Oprah garbage and it really makes it tough to talk to them about the Lord when they are so deceived. I pray for Oprahs true conversion, in the meanwhile I dont watch her show... if a portion of it is trash, to me it should be all discarded as trash.
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absolutely! amen
 
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Oprah huh didnt know she had turned from the truth, I guess influence money and fame can decieve anyone if you are not got roots grounded or faith in ruins,
 
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Oprah huh didnt know she had turned from the truth, I guess influence money and fame can decieve anyone if you are not got roots grounded or faith in ruins,
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google the words oprah denies christ & you'll see the program i'm referring to. i'm pretty sure theres utube clips of it on there.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwGLNbiw1gk Oprah is not a Christian & I dont think she ever was a true Christian. She said that when she first questioned God it was because God's word said God is a Jealous God... she figured God was jealous over HER... the arrogance of the woman is astounding and the ignorance of the woman is astounding & the passive acceptance of her new age garbage is also astounding.
 
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And Oprah also buys stuff from Walmart so she's certainly not a true Christian.
 
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imoss

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huh??? I shop at walmart?? what about walmart? while shopping in our local walmart i noticed they were playing Jars of clay (christian band) on the speaker system.
 
Semiazas

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Maybe your walmart is a Christian one.
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HA! oh really? nobody who is a christian would shop at walmart huh? really? more divinely inspired wisdom from mahogany. please expand on this mahogany, the millions of christians who shop at walmart would like to hear your reasoning behind this.
 
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I bet Jesus would shop at Wal-Mart. I can literally see him in my head buying duct tape at 2am.
 
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HA! oh really? nobody who is a christian would shop at walmart huh? really? more divinely inspired wisdom from mahogany. please expand on this mahogany, the millions of christians who shop at walmart would like to hear your reasoning behind this.
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Do you shop at Walmart?
 
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MahogonySnail said:
Maybe your walmart is a Christian one.
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or their local management are... i notice at christmas there is no rockin around the christmas tree there is oh holy night.../silent night... I really appreciate that!
 
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Harley_Angel said:
I bet Jesus would shop at Wal-Mart. I can literally see him in my head buying duct tape at 2am.
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to fix his sandals! lol, my son has a favorite pair of slippers and they are wrapped in duct tape...
 
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MahogonySnail said:
Do you shop at Walmart?
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where i shop is none of your business. but if i was looking to buy some self righteous, arrogance, i know id be able to find plenty from you.
and im still waiting for you to justify your statement that no true christian shops at walmart.
 
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by the sounds of it looks llike Austalians are in for a real surprise, weve just got the first a walmart store here in Auburn, I know nothing about it, it cant be as bad as a bottle or witchcraft shop
 
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collective said:
by the sounds of it looks llike Austalians are in for a real surprise, weve just got the first a walmart store here in Auburn, I know nothing about it, it cant be as bad as a bottle or witchcraft shop
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There is nothing wrong with wal-mart. The only thing I can think that mahogony could be talking about is a couple of years ago they didn't want their employees saying marry christmas, but rather happy holidays. However after some up roar by the customers they changed their polocy.
 
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collective

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thanks imoss for the youtube link, i have posted it on my facebook, I think God wouldve worked it in her heart with the truth, i hope so anyway
 
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Harley_Angel

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Everyone likes to think of Walmart as an "Evil" corporation. There were "problems" with child labor, unfair wages, and general employee relation problems. But we have to remember, even if only 1% of Wal-Mart associated work places had a problem, it would still number in the hundreds. They try really hard to keep problems down under 1%. Secondly, because of their business/supply model, they are able to provide a wide variety of goods relatively cheap and it tends to make little mom and pop stores shut down. But, we have to remember, the point of a business is to make a profit and provide a product/service, which Wal-mart has nearly perfected, not to mention they've opened a lot of jobs opportunties and has been known to keep some local economies afloat.

So take it or leave it, Wal-Mart is here. It's goal is profit, not morality and Christian values.
 
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