Question: "Masturbation - is it a sin according to the Bible?"

[IamWhoIam]

Get a grip (metaphorical, not actual if you think masturbating is a sin). No one is more concerned about children than I am, but it is highly unlikely a child is going to read the comments of a bunch of people on a message board. Also, the parents who let their children have unlimited access to the internet are the ones liable, not random people. We should not enforce censorship on the off chance that a little kid might read our comments.

I would be concerned if I were the parents not supervising my child and letting him imbibe whatever he happens to stumble upon on the internet. Censorship is a slippery slope.

You better get a grip, this thread is wide open to world, no child has to be logged on to see it, and if you know anything about today's children a lot of them have a computer and know how to use it.

you make me sick with your justifying.

 

[Galatea]

Somethings I don't play around with, little children being effected by growing up to fast, makes me see red and I have no remorse for such things,

I like to preserve the innocence of children, but whose fault is it if they see, hear, and watch things they ought not? The blame falls squarely on the parents. God has charged parents with a heavy responsibility to raise their children to be happy, healthy, and well adjusted. We can not as a society, do the job that parents should be doing. There is absolutely no reason why a minor child should have unlimited and unsupervised access to the internet.

 

[beastslayer1970]

You better get a grip, this thread is wide open to world, no child has to be logged on to see it, and if you know anything about today's children a lot of them have a computer and know how to use it.

you make me sick with your justifying.

I have seen mods post that you cannot tell anyone what to post or not post unless you are a mod, now really hero, you got an issue go to a mod. It's not me or Galatea's OP. We are not justifying anything!!!!

I am not going to be blackmailed into guilt or condemnation because a spiritually immature brother has issues discussing human sexuality.

Now, either go to a mod , let it go and leave me and Galatea alone. We stopped posting things on this thread anyway.

PS: Did it ever cross your mind that having a discussion about human sexuality with kids starts now at 5-7 yoa? Wanna know why, because if you wait to talk to them at 12-14 they are already exposed to it by people that truly are what you are trying to paint Galatea and I as.

Now really brother, calm down

 

[Galatea]

You better get a grip, this thread is wide open to world, no child has to be logged on to see it, and if you know anything about today's children a lot of them have a computer and know how to use it.

you make me sick with your justifying.

I’m sure I make a lot of people sick. I make myself sick. I am well aware that children are exposed to all sorts of things they should not hear, see, or read. Who is the monitor? Society or parents? Would you REALLY want society to assume the rights of parents? That is not very conservative thinking.

What if the censors decide that God is an archaic construct that harms rather than helps. Therefore, society might decide in the best interest of children, to censor any mention of God from the internet?

Before championing censorship, you need to think about the possible repercussions. I would not trust any censors our government would appoint as the moral authorities over society.

 

[beastslayer1970]

Somethings I don't play around with, little children being effected by growing up to fast, makes me see red and I have no remorse for such things,

Before you make spurious judgements about people it is wise to know them. I do not know you and you certainly do not know me. I do not disagree with your position, I disagree that you are trying to censor something and not a mod.

We had candid sex talk with our kids when they were 7-10, because we knew the world had changed. Refusing to talk to kids and people about SEX and human Sexuality is why Satan has the battlefield advantage on it.

 

[Susanna]

I’m sure I make a lot of people sick. I make myself sick. I am well aware that children are exposed to all sorts of things they should not hear, see, or read. Who is the monitor? Society or parents? Would you REALLY want society to assume the rights of parents? That is not very conservative thinking.

What if the censors decide that God is an archaic construct that harms rather than helps. Therefore, society might decide in the best interest of children, to censor any mention of God from the internet?

Before championing censorship, you need to think about the possible repercussions. I would not trust any censors our government would appoint as the moral authorities over society.

Sister, I've read some posts in this thread I wouldn't hesitate one moment labeling sick. They were not your posts.

 

[beastslayer1970]

I’m sure I make a lot of people sick. I make myself sick. I am well aware that children are exposed to all sorts of things they should not hear, see, or read. Who is the monitor? Society or parents? Would you REALLY want society to assume the rights of parents? That is not very conservative thinking.

What if the censors decide that God is an archaic construct that harms rather than helps. Therefore, society might decide in the best interest of children, to censor any mention of God from the internet?

Before championing censorship, you need to think about the possible repercussions. I would not trust any censors our government would appoint as the moral authorities over society.

Well said sister.

 

[Galatea]

Sister, I've read some posts in this thread I wouldn't hesitate one moment labeling sick. They were not your posts.

Thanks, very much. Not much makes me sick, I hear worse every day from 12 and 13 year old children. Some of them know more than me (seriously).

 

[MultilingualMessenger]

You guys, he's not advocating censorship on the matter. He believes that people should have to log in to see these topics. Not that people shouldn't be allowed to say anything anywhere ever. Come on now. Disagreeing is one thing, but at least disagree with what was actually said.

I will say this, the thread is wide open, you don't even have to be logged on to view it, it should be only access to registered users/members.

if a 7 year old child, happens to come across this thread, and is influenced by the thread topic.

you better off with a mill stone around your neck, each and everyone of you better pray, this doesn't impact a small child in anyway. And I'm talking mods site owners people posting etc.

This isn't no game I'm serious in what I say about this. better delete it or move it were only members can see it not the whole world. if any child stumbles looking at this crap, you will be accountable, you won't know now but one day you will.

 

[beastslayer1970]

You guys, he's not advocating censorship on the matter. He believes that people should have to log in to see these topics. Not that people shouldn't be allowed to say anything anywhere ever. Come on now. Disagreeing is one thing, but at least disagree with what was actually said.

and he is talking to the wrong people and attacking us. He needs to go to a mod, not us

 

[BillG]

You better get a grip, this thread is wide open to world, no child has to be logged on to see it, and if you know anything about today's children a lot of them have a computer and know how to use it.

you make me sick with your justifying.

”You make sick?

Wow what a way to engage and discuss.

There is nothing new today that happens from the beginning of time.
Parents have a responsibility to put filters in place to protect their kids. As I do with mine.

Truth is they are going to hear it from those they spend time with at school and outside of school.

The filth and depravity from Adam to Jesus and addressed in the Bible was around way before the internet.

Kids won’t be on this site.

We as parents have a responsibility to restrict access to certain stuff on the internet.
Where would you draw the line with your kids concerning the internet?

Would you draw a line between your kids interacting with other kids who have unlimited access to the internet?

 

[Zi]

I didn't read the contents of the posts. Some material is IMO best left in pm, we do have children on this site. But I'm no owner so there goes that..

On this issue you'll sadly find some have a singular approach rather than the benefit of the body of Christ as a whole..

They like society put responsibility on parents when in truth we all belong to one unit or body.

The depths of the interworking must still be unknown to them. Who has an idea of satans plan and throws others out on their own against him? Not someone with abiding true love..

Blame shift.. the wisdom they think they have is laughable. The arrogance in these posts is disgusting..

I should know to protect my children from the world, but to have to guard them on a Christian site, floors me.. an adult who has no sense of censorship, hasn't read the Bible. We aren't supposed to talk filthy.

I should be the first to introduce the topic. Some here think 3 yrs(exaggerated) old is appropriate.. That's their own appetite they refuse to control, so they lash out..

You better get a grip, this thread is wide open to world, no child has to be logged on to see it, and if you know anything about today's children a lot of them have a computer and know how to use it.

you make me sick with your justifying.

 

[Enow]

You better get a grip, this thread is wide open to world, no child has to be logged on to see it, and if you know anything about today's children a lot of them have a computer and know how to use it.

you make me sick with your justifying.

I like to preserve the innocence of children, but whose fault is it if they see, hear, and watch things they ought not? The blame falls squarely on the parents. God has charged parents with a heavy responsibility to raise their children to be happy, healthy, and well adjusted. We can not as a society, do the job that parents should be doing. There is absolutely no reason why a minor child should have unlimited and unsupervised access to the internet.

As if nonchristian children are not going to influence christian children in schools.

This goes to show discipleship should begin at home. If no one prepares the kids on hot topics, the world will.

They are already teaching the evolution theory as being true in schools and even in little children's books about dinosaurs.

Yeah.. I can see why God is coming to judge His House first and then the world at the pre trib rapture event. It's bad now.

 

[tourist]

I will say this, the thread is wide open, you don't even have to be logged on to view it, it should be only access to registered users/members.

if a 7 year old child, happens to come across this thread, and is influenced by the thread topic.

you better off with a mill stone around your neck, each and everyone of you better pray, this doesn't impact a small child in anyway. And I'm talking mods site owners people posting etc.

This isn't no game I'm serious in what I say about this. better delete it or move it were only members can see it not the whole world. if any child stumbles looking at this crap, you will be accountable, you won't know now but one day you will.

I'm sure there are countless thousands of sites where a 7 year old could go to that would adversely affect him or her. That's where the parents come into the picture to control the content that their child is allowed to view.

 

[Zi]

That and their erroneous belief that unrepentant lifestyle is covered..

Jesus said not to make a little one stumble. He meant it.

 

[Galatea]

”You make sick?

Wow what a way to engage and discuss.

There is nothing new today that happens from the beginning of time.
Parents have a responsibility to put filters in place to protect their kids. As I do with mine.

Truth is they are going to hear it from those they spend time with at school and outside of school.

The filth and depravity from Adam to Jesus and addressed in the Bible was around way before the internet.

Kids won’t be on this site.

We as parents have a responsibility to restrict access to certain stuff on the internet.
Where would you draw the line with your kids concerning the internet?

Would you draw a line between your kids interacting with other kids who have unlimited access to the internet?

That’s a very good point, about how to monitor your children’s intake of media. At our school, a seventh grade boy who identifies as bisexual, told the boys in his class “Look at this!” and proceeded to show them gay pornography. This was when they had a substitute teacher. The boy was suspended for three days- but the other kids had already seen the images. These are 12 and 13 year old kids. Parents better be frank when talking to their children, because it is everywhere.

 

[BillG]

As if nonchristian children are not going to influence christian children in schools.

This goes to show discipleship should begin at home. If no one prepares the kids on hot topics, the world will.

They are already teaching the evolution theory as being true in schools and even in little children's books about dinosaurs.

Yeah.. I can see why God is coming to judge His House first and then the world at the pre trib rapture event. It's bad now.

Very well said.

Discipelship starts at home.

That is what my wife and I have done with our 4 kids.
Spoke the truth and at the right time discussed the hot topics.
Sometimes reactive and sometimes proactive.

 

[MultilingualMessenger]

While it is up to the parents to set parameters for their children's internet use, we all know that kids find ways to get around their parents' rules. There is a good chance that children, unfortunately, will stumble upon something on the internet that makes them stumble. But, as much as we can help it, it shouldn't be because of us.

 

[tourist]

Gee, what if that same 7 year old used the word crap and got in trouble.

It happens.

 

[IamWhoIam]

You guys, he's not advocating censorship on the matter. He believes that people should have to log in to see these topics. Not that people shouldn't be allowed to say anything anywhere ever. Come on now. Disagreeing is one thing, but at least disagree with what was actually said.

That is exactly what I'm saying, if people want to talk about playing with themselves that's none of my business, but when anybody who is roaming the Internet can see such stuff and especially on a Christian site, Really, that's alittle twisted in my book.

And the mods have allowed it in the open forum area, why I can only imagine what goes through their heads,

this is can be easily moved to conspiracy forum, thus would limit it be viewed by site members only, not just anybody coming across the site on the Internet.

i wonder where people's morales are anymore these days, somethings seems to go right out the window all in the name of pleasure for isn't this what the thread is about pleasuring ones self, Quite ignorant indeed.