Real account of a sinner that stood directly before God...

[Grace777x70]

Here is my full quote below and I have no problem standing against people trying to pervert the gospel of the grace of Christ - neither did Paul. People need to come to Christ and stop trying to get Christians to desert their Lord. Gal. 1:6

If that bothers some - then so be.

I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ and will defend Christ against those that would pervert the gospel which includes all D.I.Y. self-righteous/holiness humanistic mindsets in what ever form they come in.

These are a perversion of the gospel of Christ because only in "it"- the true gospel of Christ alone is the power of God for salvation.

Paul said he would not be in subjection to this for even one hour so that the truth of the gospel would remains with them in Gal. 2:3-5

Quote:

When you finally come to Christ disciplemike - you will find out exactly what Christ did for us on the cross to the ascension to the right hand of the Father and He changed us from sinners to saints.

Perhaps this is why you are continually pushing Christians to desert Christ to go back to the law of Moses because you have no idea really about the gospel of the grace of Christ yet and so you diminish it down to a bunch of rules keeping from a dead and obsolete covenant.

No one here is going to fall for your anti-Christ religion here. We are not going to desert our Lord. We belong to Him now - we are one with Him in our Spirit. As Jesus is - so are we in this world.

UNQUOTE:

 

[disciplemike]

how many people here have you found that said they are ashamed of the gospel of Christ?
do you throw that in for drama?

are you the only one who is not ashamed?

 

[PeterJens]

No one here is going to fall for your anti-Christ religion here.

anti-christ religion is the ultimate blasphemy against Christs work in someones heart.
It is both condemnation and a lie.

The dilemma between legalism and grace has been the tension throughout the history
of the christian faith. To deny this tension is to just lie.
To slander fellow believers defines the division you wish to create, when it is you who
are preaching a false faith and position. But then all heresies will always finally come out
in the open and end up condemning normal believing followers of Christ.

You will know them by their fruit.

 

[Grace777x70]

Preaching another gospel other than the finished work of Christ is to be attacked vehemently and exposed for what it truly is.

Galatians 1:6-10 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

[SUP]7 [/SUP] Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

[SUP]8 [/SUP] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

[SUP]9 [/SUP] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

[SUP]10 [/SUP] For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

We are not to give in to false gospels for even one hour so that the truth would remain with us. We are NOT to go back to the Law of Moses.

Galatians 2:3-5 (NASB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] But not even Titus, who was with me, though he was a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. [SUP]4 [/SUP] But it was because of the false brethren secretly brought in, who had sneaked in to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, in order to bring us into bondage.

[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.

 

[PeterJens]

Let us be honest here.
Traditional believers are preaching believe on Christ and you will be saved.
The fruit of your salvation is a changed heart and good works.

This has always been the mark of a born again believer. Even John the baptist
talked about the fruit of repentance.

Yet it is consistently HG believers who hunt out their legalistic view of faith, and
then label those people as legalists and now anti-christ followers.

This is such a distortion and lie against what it means to walk in holiness and love
it becomes poison and dangerous. Their language gets more and more angry, and
attempts to undermine the faith of others, which has never been a trait of followers
of Christ. Our witness is in our love and grace, our looking for the good and pointing
out real sin.

Falsely accusing people of heinous crimes against christ, and condemning people who
stand on walking in righteousness is not the ministry of followers of Jesus.

And people who commit real sin, and destroy the work of righteousness in society, are
left alone as if there are no problems here, and talking about sin and lives falling apart
is no longer part of walking with Christ. This is so odd when it is exactly this which is
the ministry of the church to hold up a light of love and speak reality to a fallen world
which is under judgement of the creator, who will send them to the lake of fire if they
do not repent and believe on His son.

Such a different faith this is, it is deemed as decrying Christs ministry to warn about the
consequences of sin, and the damage it does to all of us.

 

[PeterJens]

Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:38

 

[PeterJens]

Produce fruit in keeping with repentance.
Matt 3:8

 

[PeterJens]

set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.
1 Tim 4:12

 

[PeterJens]

For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
Eph 2:10

 

[PeterJens]

In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Matt 5:16

 

[PeterJens]

If Gods people are the light in the world, they must be something wonderful
to behold, a real difference to the world around.

 

[PeterJens]

Sometimes people in here make me so angry with how they portray God I sin..

Now the above sentence surprises me as a follow of Christ.
I say this because people present God is so many ways, and God does not mind, because He
is who He is. Once you understand it has never been a problem how God is presented, the problem
has always been can people be bothered to search for God.

If you want to find God he can easily be found in scripture, with His people, because His sheep listen
to His voice.

But here we have a man who claims to believe God chooses His own, and once chosen you can never
be lost no matter what people do, but his anger shows he is lying to himself and us. He actually knows
what is being said matters to him deeply, and he does not believe God is soveriegn, but I know the Lord
is. I have seen people saved who I did not think would, and those I dearly wanted to see the truth walk
on by.

It is like a person who claims to have victory in Christ, but still does not know how to love His enemy.
Their fruit show their heart, and their heart is full of pride and anger. No more needs to be said.

 

[PeterJens]

The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. The name written on her forehead was a mystery:
babylon the great
the mother of prostitutes
and of the abominations of the earth.
I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.
Rev 17:4-6

Our society is sated in pornography, our young people sleep around as if fornication is no
problem, children grow up with multiple parents, with multiple relationships,
divorce is not an issue, abortion is an easy way of dealing with accidental pregnancies,
relationships are cheap, and love is an optional extra,

but there is nothing wrong in the core of our world or society?
Only the enemy would agree with this reality.

We stand on the brink of disaster, the wealthiest and most powerful man has ever been
in our known history, yet totally hypocritical, and unable to have restraint, where to beat
terrorists torture and murder are acceptable tools.

But to talk about sin is now wrong and evil, and there is not anything there to repent of
or flee from? What a weird faith these HG people have created.