Refuting The Cessationism Doctrine: Spiritual Gifts, Tongues, Miracles Haven’t Ceased Since Pentecost!!

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Just go and do what you say you can. You are sinning if you withhold good when needed.
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I don't care who dies or not , we all die , I take care of what Jesus sends me for , do you ? I happen to believe that Jesus has attenuated the disease CV , I believe it was manufactured to be a much worse death toll than it turned out to be .. I believe Jesus can raise the dead and if He tells me to I will and it is still up to Him, not me ..
 
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1ofthem said:
Only God can put an end to suffering. And I'm pretty sure that ain't going to happen full scale until we make it to heaven.

You are totally confused about the gifts. Read it again, because it is a gift of the Spirit and it is the Spirit that works in a man to perform healing or any of the gifts. Do you understand that, if not read the Bible and pray for understanding and that God would open your blinded eyes...
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But we haven't seen the gifts since Paul no longer healed in the Epistles.
 
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You are mocking....Why don't you go heal some sick or raise the dead...oh wait never mind, you don't even believe that God can still use people to heal, do you?
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I'm not sure he believes Jesus was raised from the dead

I am not being sarcastic when I say that either

I am serious. something waaaay off with this dude and not just because he is a cessationist either

there are other folks here who do not believe the gifts are still active and I get that. but they do not do what this person does
 
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I don't care who dies or not , we all die , I take care of what Jesus sends me for , do you ? I happen to believe that Jesus has attenuated the disease CV , I believe it was manufactured to be a much worse death toll than it turned out to be .. I believe Jesus can raise the dead and if He tells me to I will and it is still up to Him, not me ..
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You need to prove the gifts are for today or move on to another topic. Paul no longer healed in the Epistles.
 
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Dave-L said:
But we haven't seen the gifts since Paul no longer healed in the Epistles.
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that would be you

YOU have not seen what you do not believe ever happened anyway

is there actually something in scripture you do agree with?
 
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1ofthem said:
Only God can put an end to suffering. And I'm pretty sure that ain't going to happen full scale until we make it to heaven.

You are totally confused about the gifts. Read it again, because it is a gift of the Spirit and it is the Spirit that works in a man to perform healing or any of the gifts. Do you understand that, if not read the Bible and pray for understanding and that God would open your blinded eyes...
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He has not actually responded to a single challenge to his reckless spill.
Omitting verses is not an honorable position nor is skewing his cherry picked ones.
The only traction in cessationism is an edited partial bible.

Woah....not a pretty picture
 
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1ofthem said:
How about we pray and stand in agreement that God will open your blinded eyes?
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How about your eyes? Aren't we supposed to remove our own seeing problems first before attempting to tweak another's?
 
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Dave-L said:
But we haven't seen the gifts since Paul no longer healed in the Epistles.
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You mean you haven't ... I haven't seen personally anyone raised from the dead but I'm ready, even prayed before hand that I be ready in case I'm called ..
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Dave-L said:
You need to prove the gifts are for today or move on to another topic. Paul no longer healed in the Epistles.
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since you cannot prove they are no longer active, perhaps take your own advice and move on

this thread is not moderated by you and while I do not agree with much the op has written, I can attest to the fact that God still heals people and still hardens the hearts of those who go out of their way to mock and post nonsense such as you do

so go ahead and move on as you tell others to do. this thread is right on topic even with your dissenting . Paul never healed anyone by the way

perhaps if you believed in the power of God in any way, you would have at least a little dignity when responding to others

as it is, you are crass and your one liners prove nothing except perhaps that the Bible is not familiar to you
 
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He has not actually responded to a single challenge to his reckless spill.
Omitting verses is not an honorable position nor is skewing his cherry picked ones.
The only traction in cessationism is an edited partial bible.

Woah....not a pretty picture
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Go raise some dead and heal the rest and prove me wrong.
 
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Absolutely said:
He has not actually responded to a single challenge to his reckless spill.
Omitting verses is not an honorable position nor is skewing his cherry picked ones.
The only traction in cessationism is an edited partial bible.

Woah....not a pretty picture
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I don't get why he continues to fight against and mock the Word of God. I am seriously praying for him, though.
 
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1ofthem said:
I don't get why he continues to fight against and mock the Word of God. I am seriously praying for him, though.
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The word of God says the gifts passed away with the Apostles who distributed them.
 
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7seasrekeyed said:
that would be you

YOU have not seen what you do not believe ever happened anyway

is there actually something in scripture you do agree with?
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He seems stuck on the ones Jesus left sick.
...and the nerve of him not raising all the dead.

I am also losing faith.

Nope
 
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Dave-L said:
The word of God says the gifts passed away with the Apostles who distributed them.
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I have asked you to show me where it says that and you have not because it is not there...just saying....Anyhow, I've got things to do right now, but I'm still praying for you.
 
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1ofthem said:
I have asked you to show me where it says that and you have not because it is not there...just saying....Anyhow, I've got things to do right now, but I'm still praying for you.
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You need to show another way the gifts came beside the Apostle's hands. Or beside the two outpourings. Until then, you are adding to God's word.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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He seems stuck on the ones Jesus left sick.
...and the nerve of him not raising all the dead.

I am also losing faith.

Nope
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he is obnoxious

this is not his thread, but even if it was, he does not have the right to tell people to move on

he is determined to prove the Bible is full of lies it would seem
 
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