Refuting The Cessationism Doctrine: Spiritual Gifts, Tongues, Miracles Haven’t Ceased Since Pentecost!!

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bojack

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#86
I saw your beliefs kill over 100 people and I don't want to see any more of it.
I don't know what you're talking about but no one is promised tomorrow
 
Jul 23, 2018
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#87
When moses lifted the serpent on the pole it was a type of christ on the cross.
The message is healing is part of the atonement/covenant.

It would be consistent that his earthly walk was dominated by the miracles and healing.

Then his is very words .
"...these signs shall follow they that believe...."
Do you believe???
Do those teaching you??
What is entering your eargates?
Jettison that anemic no power mess
 
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7seasrekeyed

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#88
personally, I think it's time to shake the 'dust' off this one

why continue to give this individual a platform he would never have in any church including those who are cessationists?

absolutely nothing of value. loves to sling one liners...no scripture

just a mocking and unfaithful spirit that has had far too much leeway on this forum

my advice and opinion. I hope some would take it

he needs an audience. he has had an audience and abuses it.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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#94
did Jesus argue with the devil?

no. the devil knew who he was

IMO, it is a shame at this point to continue to throw pearls

and nothing you say will make the slightest difference to this person

some folks have a lot of anger and disappointment in their lives and they take it out on others

who knows..maybe dude here prayed for something and did not receive it and has harbored a grudge ever since

we don't know and we will not be told

what a way to spend a Sunday morning...most churches being closed or going to be closed

this is not the answer
 

bojack

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#95
Really, that's why? If I had proof I'd use it on a guy like me.
I told you like many others have , it's out of our hands and I don't care .. I hate it for you though
 
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7seasrekeyed

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#97
one last thing:

the style of debate...actually it is just childish...being used here, is referred to as

Argumentum ad nauseam (argument to the point of disgust; i.e., by repetition).

This is the fallacy of trying to prove something by saying it again and again. But no matter how many times you repeat something, it will not become any more or less true than it was in the first place. Of course, it is not a fallacy to state the truth again and again; what is fallacious is to expect the repetition alone to substitute for real arguments.

so we have an endless supply of one liners, no scripture, just the same person basically telling everyone to shut up or put up over and over again...argumentum ad nauseam

the truth being that no matter what testimony might be offered, it would be trampled underfoot and more repetitious vapid one liners would be offered

this, is actually referred to as 'trampling pearls underfoot'. you take what is precious and try to offer it as proof to a scoffer who does what?

tramples it underfoot


"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces" (Matthew 7:6)

of course I am not calling anyone a pig or saying they are swine...this is a principal. the principal of not giving away what is true and you know it is true and believing that in so doing, your sincerity will be appreciated.

obviously that is not happening and lest you be injured yourself by being drawn in and becoming angry at the lies, it is better to stop giving away what is true and precious and just walk on as we are instructed to do

just my advice...but based on scripture :)
 
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did Jesus argue with the devil?

no. the devil knew who he was

IMO, it is a shame at this point to continue to throw pearls

and nothing you say will make the slightest difference to this person

some folks have a lot of anger and disappointment in their lives and they take it out on others

who knows..maybe dude here prayed for something and did not receive it and has harbored a grudge ever since

we don't know and we will not be told

what a way to spend a Sunday morning...most churches being closed or going to be closed

this is not the answer
Yes
Lets say I pray for 20 and one gets healed.
Who rejoices over the 19?
The devil
Who rejoices over the one?
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God
Me
The one healed
Those belivers of heb 11
 
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7seasrekeyed

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#99
Yes
Lets say I pray for 20 and one gets healed.
Who rejoices over the 19?
The devil
Who rejoices over the one?
4
God
Me
The one healed
Those belivers of heb 11

just so

there is no principal that everyone must be healed to prove healing still happens

and we are to rejoice with those who rejoice...only one leper came back to thank Jesus from the 10 healed

if someone you love is not healed, do you teach them that God has removed His Spirit? of course not!

I could list so many ways God has answered prayer in a way that assures me He is real and He still moves outside of our own limitations

you know that

I know that

many many many know that

praise God for all of His goodness and the fact He always hears and we should not get or grow weary in prayer because sometimes, like with Daniel, other things are involved and we need to persevere and continue in faith

even Jesus did not heal in a certain area because of the lack of faith

however I am not saying that God denies you if your faith is not good enough or big enough because surely we all have at least that mustard seed of faith...we had that when we first believed at the very least ;)