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Lanolin

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Jesus showed us how we are to live our lives. He is the perfect example of wisdom, righteousness, lovingkindness, etc., etc. ad infinitum ...

At times, Jesus used words to resist ... as He did during His temptation in the wilderness and numerous times in the face of the pharisees and sadducees.

At times, Jesus used active force ... as He did in ridding the temple of the money changers.

All the time, Jesus prayed for Father to lead Him.

As members of the body of the Lord Jesus Christ, of which He is the Head, we trust Him to lead us in the way we should go. But first and foremost, we must discern truth from error. The ministry of satan is steal, kill, destroy. he does this through ideas and ideology and he works through people.

look at what is happening in the use of pronouns ... "he" is now "she" (or "it") if he determines he does not want to be a "he". Does that change the fact that chromosomally (not even sure that is a word) "he" is still a he? No. We label things and say they are one thing but our saying so does not make it so.


Nonbinary? Intersex? 11 U.S. states issuing third gender IDs
People in New Jersey will be able to mark their gender as “undesignated/nonbinary” on their birth certificates from Friday, the latest U.S. state to liberalize its policies.
A report in October that U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration was considering defining gender as male or female based on genitalia at birth drew widespread condemnation.


We all know that females have two X chromosomes and males have one X and one Y.

I am female and have two X chromosomes. If I decide I want to identify as a male, that does not make me a male. Even if others call me male, or he, his, him, this does not change one of my X chromosomes into a Y chromosome. I still have two X chromosomes and I am still she, her. It is self-delusion to buy into this lie promulgated by satan. Yet that is what many are doing.

And, in some jurisdictions, if you continue to call me "she" or "her" after I have told you to call me "he" or "him", I could sue you and you could be forced to pay a fine.


This is just one example of the principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world, spiritual wickedness in high places we wrestle against which requires us to be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might as we put on the armor of God in order to stand and withstand in the evil day.
I dont think you have to identify with the third gender if you arent confused about it.

Its for people that are. Unfortunatley there are people that genuinely have mixed up chromosomes. Jesus even said there are eunuchs and people wouldnt understand.

Hey on many forms when they ask about race or ethnicity, i cant even put mine on there and have to put OTHER.
 

Lanolin

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The imprtant thing is you identify as christian. On census forms when they ask religion, you dont have to tick any of the denominations you can just say BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN.

It really does not matter if you male or female, jew or greek or neither at that point. God is looking at your soul.
 

Lanolin

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This is how we can resist. When there is such a form as this, asking us to seprate ourselves according to gender, just refuse to do it and put christian.

After all scripture declares it so, thats our identity!
 

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#84
Christianity isn't a club, denomination or political party. I've known wealthy Christians as well as Christians that chose to live in communes all that counts is belief in Christ's sacrifice for us. His resurrection, eventual return and sharing his love with others and spreading the Good News.
 

Lanolin

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#85
When we identify as christians, It will send a message that we not ashamed of His name.

I always find those forms that ask about your gender, if you married, what race you are and how much you earn so irrelavent. Most are written by people wanting to get something out of you, tax you, or sell you something.

If we do get persecuted for writing born again Christian on such forms, well, thats the risk we take for telling the truth
 

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Most people that get raped dont even tell the police. I think its better nowadays but still. Also theres date rapes.

Again, question how do you RESIST evil. Do we all carry rolling pins?
Perhaps you are confusing resisting evil with resisting temptation. You don't resist evil, you fight evil. Of course, it is best to simply avoid evil but the thing is most people don't have a hedge of protection surrounding them. We live in the world and sadly, there is evil in a lot of places.
 
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I dont think you have to identify with the third gender if you arent confused about it.

Its for people that are.
We have the capacity to determine whether a person is XX or XY.

Have a test done to determine and that will end any "confusion". Might not make a female happy to be female or a male happy to be male, but it will clear up any perceived "confusion".

But what is happening is that a person is not happy or satisfied with his or her life and rather than go to the Source of Life in order to have that love, joy, etc., they are substituting this gender identification misnomer as the source of all their distress.

I have a friend who has a teenage boy who wants to be female. My friend is allowing this nonsense and started her son on hormones and I believe surgery will take place soon.

Early on in the process (approx 2 or 3 years ago) when my friend first mentioned this to me, I told her that her son needs to take a step back and really think about what he is doing because even if he goes through with full change, he will not be happy or content because his gender is not the issue. And what will he do when he finds out he is just as unhappy and lacking if he goes through with full change? My friend did not listen then and she is not listening now. And this young man is going to wake up and find out this end all to be all was nothing but a sham. The issue is not having God in his life ... not growing in the things of God.

We turn our backs on God and end up with lifelong baggage. Now, can God work in the life of this young man if he identifies as female? Yes. but the baggage that this young man will carry with him if/when he repents is staggering. He will have to do as Paul instructs in Phil 3:13-14 ... he'll have to forget those things which are behind as he presses toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.




Lanolin said:
Unfortunatley there are people that genuinely have mixed up chromosomes. Jesus even said there are eunuchs and people wouldnt understand.
Those with genuinely mixed up chromosomes are a very small percentage of the population ... much less than those who claim such.

As far as the eunuch statement made by our Lord Jesus Christ, the eunuch was still considered a male. In the Greek, the word eunouchoi is a masculine noun ... not feminine, not neuter.



 

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I think i would have less respect if my husband bashed up someone and killed someone he thought was trying to hurt me.

But thats just me. Also my husband would then be in jail for manslaughter.

Im reading James 1:12-27

The last verse says about visiting widows and fatherless. Why because maybe thats protecting them too. Also verse 20 says for the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
Your husband would not go to jail for protecting you from someone that is trying to hurt you. Your husband would know full well that someone is trying to rape you or hurt you because he would be there and there would be no doubt in his mind whatsoever about what is going to happen unless he stopped it.
 

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She reminds me of the pacifist that was banned a few years ago....saying if his wife or girlfriend was being raped or murdered he would pray about it or try to TRIP the guy......made me want to spew and blood boil
I think that was Jason007 or something like that. Guy was unreal.
 

tourist

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Was you here when that thread was going...He was the one-->>Jason007
Yeah, that's the one. Said that if his fiancée was about to be raped or slashed he would pray about it and then light a candle or something like that. Real nutcase.
 

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I think the temptation to fight back is common among christians but thats succumbing to the world. They see it gets results, but its only short term. The devil is happy to put up a fight.
Resistance is actually far more effective. The devil flees.
If that was true there would be no crime in the world.
 

Lanolin

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Some people dont know how to pray as they too proud and think that they need to take matters in their own hands. When God is way more powerful than us. They have never encountered the supernatural almighty God answering prayer. Sad.

Its not by might, but by my spirit. Otherwise the only people in heaven would be muscly body builders, like the michelangelo painting. Such a misrepresentation of who God is. Lol
 

Lanolin

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We have the capacity to determine whether a person is XX or XY.

Have a test done to determine and that will end any "confusion". Might not make a female happy to be female or a male happy to be male, but it will clear up any perceived "confusion".

But what is happening is that a person is not happy or satisfied with his or her life and rather than go to the Source of Life in order to have that love, joy, etc., they are substituting this gender identification misnomer as the source of all their distress.

I have a friend who has a teenage boy who wants to be female. My friend is allowing this nonsense and started her son on hormones and I believe surgery will take place soon.

Early on in the process (approx 2 or 3 years ago) when my friend first mentioned this to me, I told her that her son needs to take a step back and really think about what he is doing because even if he goes through with full change, he will not be happy or content because his gender is not the issue. And what will he do when he finds out he is just as unhappy and lacking if he goes through with full change? My friend did not listen then and she is not listening now. And this young man is going to wake up and find out this end all to be all was nothing but a sham. The issue is not having God in his life ... not growing in the things of God.

We turn our backs on God and end up with lifelong baggage. Now, can God work in the life of this young man if he identifies as female? Yes. but the baggage that this young man will carry with him if/when he repents is staggering. He will have to do as Paul instructs in Phil 3:13-14 ... he'll have to forget those things which are behind as he presses toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.





Those with genuinely mixed up chromosomes are a very small percentage of the population ... much less than those who claim such.

As far as the eunuch statement made by our Lord Jesus Christ, the eunuch was still considered a male. In the Greek, the word eunouchoi is a masculine noun ... not feminine, not neuter.
Tell him the gospel rather than argue over gender. Also tell your friend. She needs God too.
Treat her son as a person loved by God just as Jesus treats you.

If they arent listening to you then let it go. Pray for them. Dont get angry about it.
 

Lanolin

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Perhaps you are confusing resisting evil with resisting temptation. You don't resist evil, you fight evil. Of course, it is best to simply avoid evil but the thing is most people don't have a hedge of protection surrounding them. We live in the world and sadly, there is evil in a lot of places.
You can pray for a hedge of protection. Of course if you move to sin city and its your choice, dont be surprised when sin comes knocking at your door.

When we are born again and devlivered from Evil, that means the demons are CAST OUT, they arent taking up residence. The thing is to know not to invite them in and to be sealed. Spiritual warfare is just that, spirtual, not physical.
 
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Tell him the gospel rather than argue over gender. Also tell your friend. She needs God too.
Treat her son as a person loved by God just as Jesus treats you.

If they arent listening to you then let it go. Pray for them. Dont get angry about it.
done, done, done, done, done, done.


My point in posting the scenario (Post #87), including the hoax being promulgated on the unwary (Post #80), is to expose the lie which is the reason we need to be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might so that we are fully equipped when we go out into the world and deal with those who are being hoodwinked into believing these lies.

The gender issue is just one issue being promoted as truth and it is a lie from satan which is being swallowed whole by the masses.



 

Lanolin

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When i first saw some forms that said male and female, then 'non binary' i was puzzled overwhat it meant.
But then I thought if we are neither male nor female we are ONE in Christ, then we actually are non binary...we are whole.

So it really does not matter.

I have met a few people that are very confused about gender, i remember chatting with someone who was male, but he would get very angsty about stuff especially when I would touch on some typically female topics from my perspective as a female. He later confessed that he wanted to be female. He remebered an incident in his youth when some girls dressed him up as female in tights and stockings. I dont know how old he was. I was like nah you dont want to be female surely. There is nothing inherently female about walking in high heels or wearing makeup, besides if you were truly female youd be having periods and such do you really want to deal with that, and to be always regarded as weak and inferior by clueless chauvinistic macho males.

People have really got to look beyond the flesh, beyond the carnal.

In my life, Ive had people constantly judge me on appearance. They think I'm from somehwere Im not, and thus have this whole idea of me as something im not. I dont know where people get this idea from, certainly not me. Men especially seem to have this weird idea that women cant survive without them and that we need them to protect us. But actually in the Bible its the other way round, adam needed a helper and companion cos he couldnt be alone. I notice this when I worked in retirement villages, the widowed women coped just fine, its the men were the ones who were actually the most needy, but too proud to accept help. Besides, if the women need a protector, they didnt ask a man, they just got a dog.
 
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But then I thought if we are neither male nor female we are ONE in Christ, then we actually are non binary...we are whole.
Those who are "ONE in Christ" are those who have been baptized into Christ and put on Christ.


Galatians 3:

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.


It's one thing to claim to be a child of God through faith in Christ Jesus, baptized into Christ, and put on Christ.

It's another thing to actually be a child of God through faith in Christ Jesus, baptized into Christ, and put on Christ.


The fruit in one's life reveals whose child one is. If a believer is "confused about [his/her] gender", that believer needs to get on his/her knees and pray to Father. The believer does not need to "identify" as XX (if he is XY), or as XY (if she is XX).




Lanolin said:
People have really got to look beyond the flesh, beyond the carnal.
In agreement ... we need to see satan's lie for what it is and not fall for it.

satan is holding out a carrot in front of the eyes of those who are "confused about gender". satan whispers in the ear of the "gender confused" male "if only you were female, you would be happy" and he whispers in the ear of the "gender confused" female "if only you were male, you would be happy".

That is satan's lie.

What the "confused about gender" person needs is God in their heart and life. You know this is true and I know this is true.

It's inappropriate to try to fit Gal 3:28 into the equation when we are dealing with people who either have not put on Christ or have not been baptized into Christ or have no faith in God through Christ Jesus.

We need to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ ... faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Get people studying God's Word, teach them that whether male or female godliness with contentment is great gain.




 

Lanolin

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Those who are "ONE in Christ" are those who have been baptized into Christ and put on Christ.


Galatians 3:

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.


It's one thing to claim to be a child of God through faith in Christ Jesus, baptized into Christ, and put on Christ.

It's another thing to actually be a child of God through faith in Christ Jesus, baptized into Christ, and put on Christ.


The fruit in one's life reveals whose child one is. If a believer is "confused about [his/her] gender", that believer needs to get on his/her knees and pray to Father. The believer does not need to "identify" as XX (if he is XY), or as XY (if she is XX).





In agreement ... we need to see satan's lie for what it is and not fall for it.

satan is holding out a carrot in front of the eyes of those who are "confused about gender". satan whispers in the ear of the "gender confused" male "if only you were female, you would be happy" and he whispers in the ear of the "gender confused" female "if only you were male, you would be happy".

That is satan's lie.

What the "confused about gender" person needs is God in their heart and life. You know this is true and I know this is true.

It's inappropriate to try to fit Gal 3:28 into the equation when we are dealing with people who either have not put on Christ or have not been baptized into Christ or have no faith in God through Christ Jesus.

We need to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ ... faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Get people studying God's Word, teach them that whether male or female godliness with contentment is great gain.
Well, keep on preaching the gospel. But am just adding some traction that, cos we know we are children of God, why not declare it. Dont be ashamed of it.

Here is how you would witness to your confused friends son. You can say, I would tick non binary cos I know In my soul, my innermost being, I am not male or female, Im a child of God and one in Christ. Are you?
 

Lanolin

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Its what missionaries call the 'eye opener' a way to get the gospel across. Do something or say something people can relate to that actually demonstrates the spiritual truth of the gospel.

An example of this is when Paul went into the greeks forum in athens and pointed to the inscription that said 'to an unknown god'. He used this to preach that their 'unknown god' was actually present and had made Himself known.

Paul wasnt falling in to arguments in those forums. He was just declaring the truth. But you know why book of Romans is so wordy, its because they needed to have everything spelled out and explained to them lol.
After youve read book of romans, you dont really need any other book of theology.