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no I'm not trying to find scripture to disprove scripture. I am finding scripture to disprove the works salvation false gospel people wish to place upon others and enslave people to the law of sin of death instead of proclaiming the True Gospel of CHRIST and freedom of following the Holy Spirit and worshiping God in Spirit and Truth.
It is not the Bible that I am calling a liar but men who twist His words to suit their purpose.
56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
yes God told us to rest, that is what Sabbath is for. It was created for men to rest and refresh themselves in the praise and worship of God from the toil of this world and the continual work. the Festival of Weeks is set up for the Land to get a sabbath and allowed to rest as well. That is how God set it up. I've never stated people should NOT observe the Sabbath. My only issue is the false law teaching people would place upon others of what it means to observe the Sabbath and what rules and regulations and traditions of men people teach as if it is the commandments of God when they are NOT.
yes but the discussion is WHAT does God require people to do and not do during the Sabbath. do you follow the letter of the law or the Spirit?
true so study scripture to be approved.
Philippians 4
4 Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice!
5 Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.
6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
its alright. I would rather people have strong convictions then be lukewarm. Some people find me offensive at times as well but I pray they forgive me at the end of the day and move forward as God commands all His children do. It would be hypocritical if I did not forgive others every day as well.
There was the Mishna(oral law) then around 300 b.c. rabbis started putting together commentary together about the mishna, which was called the gamara's. It wasn't till much later around the 5th a.d. that it started being put together and was called talmud. (the babylonian talmud) And of course we have the Jerusalem talmud(much smaller that the other) which was written in in Tiberias. But technically, the talmud did not exist under that name in Yeshua's day, it was the gamara's, writings of the Mishna. Which both are used interchangeably now. But in a sense it was what is now refered to as talmud. Hope I answered your question.
At no time have I done anything to water down salvation, nor have I said or lead anyone that they are to believe salvation comes from keeping Torah. Salvation comes from Yeshua, and obedience once we receive salvation comes from obeying God's rules.
I have never once said to keep Sabbath the way men teach, I have said to keep Sabbath the way YHVH commands in HIS word. So if you are accusing me of that, you have misunderstood me completely. No where in my posts have I said anything contrary to YHVH's Commandment on Sabbath.
[QUOTEyes but the discussion is WHAT does God require people to do and not do during the Sabbath. do you follow the letter of the law or the Spirit?][/QUOTE]What do you think the letter of the Spirit is? You have to understand, the Spirit cannot be contrary to the Torah, not even one stroke.
[QUOTEPhilippians 4
4 Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice!
5 Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.
6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
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][/QUOTE]Agreed on these, no arguement, but it doesn't change that we need to keep YHVH's Commandments the way He says to, Yeshua has not changed any of YHVH's Commands. John 15:10
Amen.
I have never once said to keep Sabbath the way men teach, I have said to keep Sabbath the way YHVH commands in HIS word. So if you are accusing me of that, you have misunderstood me completely. No where in my posts have I said anything contrary to YHVH's Commandment on Sabbath.
[QUOTEyes but the discussion is WHAT does God require people to do and not do during the Sabbath. do you follow the letter of the law or the Spirit?][/QUOTE]What do you think the letter of the Spirit is? You have to understand, the Spirit cannot be contrary to the Torah, not even one stroke.
[QUOTEPhilippians 4
4 Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice!
5 Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.
6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
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][/QUOTE]Agreed on these, no arguement, but it doesn't change that we need to keep YHVH's Commandments the way He says to, Yeshua has not changed any of YHVH's Commands. John 15:10
Amen.
No they started writing stuff, around 300 b.c.(correction on my part) Rabbis started writing stuff, but you're right, written form recognized was around 2nd century a.d. and then talmud/gamara was done 3rd and 5th century. So the pharisees and sadducees that Yeshua rebuked were because of the oral laws that were not from Moses, being held above Torah, and the stuff that later became talmud, that they taught. Thank you for that correction.
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what is considered work? how does one keep the Sabbath holy? what is considered profane?
Exodus 20:9-11
New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Exodus 31
12 And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 13 “Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: ‘Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. 14 You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16 Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’”
Exodus 35
1 Then Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said to them, “These are the words which the LORD has commanded you to do: 2 Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh day shall be a holy day for you, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. 3 You shall kindle no fire throughout your dwellings on the Sabbath day.”
Since we no longer have fires does central heating count?
we have Leviticus 23...
Do farmers observe this?
Leviticus 25:4
but in the seventh year there shall be a sabbath of solemn rest for the land, a sabbath to the LORD. You shall neither sow your field nor prune your vineyard.
Sabbath for the land?
Leviticus 26:34
Then the land shall enjoy its sabbaths as long as it lies desolate and you are in your enemies’ land;then the land shall rest and enjoy its sabbaths.
Leviticus 26:43
The land also shall be left empty by them, and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them;they will accept their guilt, because they despised My judgments and because their soul abhorred My statutes.
can some explain this one to me?
Numbers 15
32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
35 Then the LORD said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the LORD commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.
Exodus 20:9-11
New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Exodus 31
12 And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 13 “Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: ‘Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. 14 You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16 Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’”
Exodus 35
1 Then Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said to them, “These are the words which the LORD has commanded you to do: 2 Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh day shall be a holy day for you, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. 3 You shall kindle no fire throughout your dwellings on the Sabbath day.”
Since we no longer have fires does central heating count?
we have Leviticus 23...
Do farmers observe this?
Leviticus 25:4
but in the seventh year there shall be a sabbath of solemn rest for the land, a sabbath to the LORD. You shall neither sow your field nor prune your vineyard.
Sabbath for the land?
Leviticus 26:34
Then the land shall enjoy its sabbaths as long as it lies desolate and you are in your enemies’ land;then the land shall rest and enjoy its sabbaths.
Leviticus 26:43
The land also shall be left empty by them, and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them;they will accept their guilt, because they despised My judgments and because their soul abhorred My statutes.
can some explain this one to me?
Numbers 15
32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
35 Then the LORD said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the LORD commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.
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Gathering wood, lighting fires and buy and selling and working (though keeping guard or healing and doing good is not considered work) all seem to be spoken against by the Bible.
I know lots of people who buy and sell on Sunday and Saturday whichever one people want to believe is the Lord's day or the Sabbath and should be observed. hmmm. i'll keep looking through scriptures...
Nehemiah 13
15 In those days I saw people in Judah treading wine presses on the Sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and loading donkeys with wine, grapes, figs, and all kinds of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the Sabbath day. And I warned them about the day on which they were selling provisions. 16 Men of Tyre dwelt there also, who brought in fish and all kinds of goods, and sold them on the Sabbath to the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.
17 Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said to them, “What evil thing is this that you do, by which you profane the Sabbath day? 18 Did not your fathers do thus, and did not our God bring all this disaster on us and on this city? Yet you bring added wrath on Israel by profaning the Sabbath.”
19 So it was, at the gates of Jerusalem, as it began to be dark before the Sabbath, that I commanded the gates to be shut, and charged that they must not be opened till after the Sabbath. Then I posted some of my servants at the gates, so that no burdens would be brought in on the Sabbath day. 20 Now the merchants and sellers of all kinds of wares lodged outside Jerusalem once or twice.
21 Then I warned them, and said to them, “Why do you spend the night around the wall? If you do so again, I will lay hands on you!” From that time on they came no more on the Sabbath. 22 And I commanded the Levites that they should cleanse themselves, and that they should go and guard the gates, to sanctify the Sabbath day.
I know lots of people who buy and sell on Sunday and Saturday whichever one people want to believe is the Lord's day or the Sabbath and should be observed. hmmm. i'll keep looking through scriptures...
Nehemiah 13
15 In those days I saw people in Judah treading wine presses on the Sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and loading donkeys with wine, grapes, figs, and all kinds of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the Sabbath day. And I warned them about the day on which they were selling provisions. 16 Men of Tyre dwelt there also, who brought in fish and all kinds of goods, and sold them on the Sabbath to the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.
17 Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said to them, “What evil thing is this that you do, by which you profane the Sabbath day? 18 Did not your fathers do thus, and did not our God bring all this disaster on us and on this city? Yet you bring added wrath on Israel by profaning the Sabbath.”
19 So it was, at the gates of Jerusalem, as it began to be dark before the Sabbath, that I commanded the gates to be shut, and charged that they must not be opened till after the Sabbath. Then I posted some of my servants at the gates, so that no burdens would be brought in on the Sabbath day. 20 Now the merchants and sellers of all kinds of wares lodged outside Jerusalem once or twice.
21 Then I warned them, and said to them, “Why do you spend the night around the wall? If you do so again, I will lay hands on you!” From that time on they came no more on the Sabbath. 22 And I commanded the Levites that they should cleanse themselves, and that they should go and guard the gates, to sanctify the Sabbath day.
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Isaiah 56
1 Thus says the LORD:
“ Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”
3 Do not let the son of the foreigner
Who has joined himself to the LORD
Speak, saying,
“ The LORD has utterly separated me from His people”;
Nor let the eunuch say,
“ Here I am, a dry tree.”
4 For thus says the LORD:
“ To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths,
And choose what pleases Me,
And hold fast My covenant,
5 Even to them I will give in My house
And within My walls a place and a name
Better than that of sons and daughters;
I will give them[a] an everlasting name
That shall not be cut off.
6 “ Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the LORD, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the LORD, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”
8 The Lord GOD, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says,
“ Yet I will gather to him
Others besides those who are gathered to him.”
Isaiah 58
13 “ If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the LORD honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,
1 Thus says the LORD:
“ Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”
3 Do not let the son of the foreigner
Who has joined himself to the LORD
Speak, saying,
“ The LORD has utterly separated me from His people”;
Nor let the eunuch say,
“ Here I am, a dry tree.”
4 For thus says the LORD:
“ To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths,
And choose what pleases Me,
And hold fast My covenant,
5 Even to them I will give in My house
And within My walls a place and a name
Better than that of sons and daughters;
I will give them[a] an everlasting name
That shall not be cut off.
6 “ Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the LORD, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the LORD, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”
8 The Lord GOD, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says,
“ Yet I will gather to him
Others besides those who are gathered to him.”
Isaiah 58
13 “ If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the LORD honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,
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what is the meaning of this?
Lamentations 2:5-7
New King James Version (NKJV)
5 The Lord was like an enemy.
He has swallowed up Israel,
He has swallowed up all her palaces;
He has destroyed her strongholds,
And has increased mourning and lamentation
In the daughter of Judah.
6 He has done violence to His tabernacle,
As if it were a garden;
He has destroyed His place of assembly;
The LORD has caused
The appointed feasts and Sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion.
In His burning indignation He has spurned the king and the priest.
7 The Lord has spurned His altar,
He has abandoned His sanctuary;
He has given up the walls of her palaces
Into the hand of the enemy.
They have made a noise in the house of the LORD
As on the day of a set feast.
Lamentations 2:5-7
New King James Version (NKJV)
5 The Lord was like an enemy.
He has swallowed up Israel,
He has swallowed up all her palaces;
He has destroyed her strongholds,
And has increased mourning and lamentation
In the daughter of Judah.
6 He has done violence to His tabernacle,
As if it were a garden;
He has destroyed His place of assembly;
The LORD has caused
The appointed feasts and Sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion.
In His burning indignation He has spurned the king and the priest.
7 The Lord has spurned His altar,
He has abandoned His sanctuary;
He has given up the walls of her palaces
Into the hand of the enemy.
They have made a noise in the house of the LORD
As on the day of a set feast.
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Ezekiel 20 is pretty obvious....
Matthew 12
1 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!”
3 But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4 how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless? 6 Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple. 7 But if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice,’[a] you would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”
how is it that the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath but are blameless?
Matthew 12
1 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!”
3 But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4 how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless? 6 Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple. 7 But if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice,’[a] you would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”
how is it that the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath but are blameless?
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Luke 6
1 Now it happened on the second Sabbath after the first[a] that He went through the grainfields. And His disciples plucked the heads of grain and ate them, rubbing them in their hands. 2 And some of the Pharisees said to them, “Why are you doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath?”
3 But Jesus answering them said, “Have you not even read this, what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4 how he went into the house of God, took and ate the showbread, and also gave some to those with him, which is not lawful for any but the priests to eat?” 5 And He said to them, “The Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”
David is a man after God's heart, how is it that he did things not lawful?
what are the commandments of God and what is the doctrine of men?
1 Now it happened on the second Sabbath after the first[a] that He went through the grainfields. And His disciples plucked the heads of grain and ate them, rubbing them in their hands. 2 And some of the Pharisees said to them, “Why are you doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath?”
3 But Jesus answering them said, “Have you not even read this, what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4 how he went into the house of God, took and ate the showbread, and also gave some to those with him, which is not lawful for any but the priests to eat?” 5 And He said to them, “The Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”
David is a man after God's heart, how is it that he did things not lawful?
what are the commandments of God and what is the doctrine of men?
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John 5
8 Jesus said to him, “Rise, take up your bed and walk.” 9 And immediately the man was made well, took up his bed, and walked.
And that day was the Sabbath. 10 The Jews therefore said to him who was cured, “It is the Sabbath; it is not lawful for you to carry your bed.”
11 He answered them, “He who made me well said to me, ‘Take up your bed and walk.’”
12 Then they asked him, “Who is the Man who said to you, ‘Take up your bed and walk’?” 13 But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. 14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
15 The man departed and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him,[c] because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.
8 Jesus said to him, “Rise, take up your bed and walk.” 9 And immediately the man was made well, took up his bed, and walked.
And that day was the Sabbath. 10 The Jews therefore said to him who was cured, “It is the Sabbath; it is not lawful for you to carry your bed.”
11 He answered them, “He who made me well said to me, ‘Take up your bed and walk.’”
12 Then they asked him, “Who is the Man who said to you, ‘Take up your bed and walk’?” 13 But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. 14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
15 The man departed and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him,[c] because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.
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John 7:23
If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath?
Colossians 2:15-17
New King James Version (NKJV)
15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
Now the question should be what does it mean that the substance is of Christ and what does the shadows of food, drink, festival, new moon and sabbaths point us to?
If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath?
Colossians 2:15-17
New King James Version (NKJV)
15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
Now the question should be what does it mean that the substance is of Christ and what does the shadows of food, drink, festival, new moon and sabbaths point us to?
AnandaHya, you've got the whole thing, everyone of those scriptures has all your answers. I know some are a little harder to understand then others. There's no way to go over everyone on here. Have any suggestions? They all connect.
Here's a simple way to start. As you have above, start with Ex. 20:8-11. Sat. is true sabbath, but for the sake of arguement, if you keep sun. then keep it the way these verses say. Don't make it more complicated than it is.
1) No work or labor, (i.e. going to work, cleaning house, yard work, anything that even the world looks as work)
2) No buying, selling, etc. no stores, restaraunts, gas stations, garage sales, etc.
3) Do not cause anyone else to work.
Prepare everything the day before or couple days before. Groceries, cleaning, gas, etc. Then on Sabbath this is where Isaiah 58:13-14 comes into play. Completely denying self, and spending this day in Him, Bible study, prayer, worship, going to church, etc. Allowing YHVH to come and minister to you, this He can't do when we are running around like chickens with our heads cut off. Ever since I have kept Sabbath the way Scripture says, I have never felt so close to YHVH. I study and read and pray daily, but the whole Sabbath is set aside for Him and that's when I can get really get fed. I'm free from the worries and stresses of everything else, work, house, etc. YHVH has my undivided attention for that whole day and it's AMAZING.
Start with this if your willing, then YHVH will start giving you revelation as to how the rest works. There are some things that are out of our control, but it's the willingness to try and do what we have control of. YHVH will make things happen in ways you thought not possible when you show Him that your determined to honor His Sabbath. Shalom
Here's a simple way to start. As you have above, start with Ex. 20:8-11. Sat. is true sabbath, but for the sake of arguement, if you keep sun. then keep it the way these verses say. Don't make it more complicated than it is.
1) No work or labor, (i.e. going to work, cleaning house, yard work, anything that even the world looks as work)
2) No buying, selling, etc. no stores, restaraunts, gas stations, garage sales, etc.
3) Do not cause anyone else to work.
Prepare everything the day before or couple days before. Groceries, cleaning, gas, etc. Then on Sabbath this is where Isaiah 58:13-14 comes into play. Completely denying self, and spending this day in Him, Bible study, prayer, worship, going to church, etc. Allowing YHVH to come and minister to you, this He can't do when we are running around like chickens with our heads cut off. Ever since I have kept Sabbath the way Scripture says, I have never felt so close to YHVH. I study and read and pray daily, but the whole Sabbath is set aside for Him and that's when I can get really get fed. I'm free from the worries and stresses of everything else, work, house, etc. YHVH has my undivided attention for that whole day and it's AMAZING.
Start with this if your willing, then YHVH will start giving you revelation as to how the rest works. There are some things that are out of our control, but it's the willingness to try and do what we have control of. YHVH will make things happen in ways you thought not possible when you show Him that your determined to honor His Sabbath. Shalom
AnandaHya,One more thing, Yeshua never worked on the Sabbath, He was showing the difference between doing something good on Sabbath, like helping someone in dire need, healing, donkey in the ditch etc.
He was showing that what the pharisees were teaching was contrary to Torah. YHVH never said leave a man down because it's Sabbath, He didn't say you can't help anyone in an emergency.
I'm excuse me for being crude, but orthodox jews by what is called sabbath toilet paper, It's squares of toilet paper that are already torn apart, because they say it's work to tear the paper. It's rediculous and obsurd. This is not what YHVH said.
And it's because of stuff like that, that Yeshua had to explain these things. Shalom
He was showing that what the pharisees were teaching was contrary to Torah. YHVH never said leave a man down because it's Sabbath, He didn't say you can't help anyone in an emergency.
I'm excuse me for being crude, but orthodox jews by what is called sabbath toilet paper, It's squares of toilet paper that are already torn apart, because they say it's work to tear the paper. It's rediculous and obsurd. This is not what YHVH said.
And it's because of stuff like that, that Yeshua had to explain these things. Shalom
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yes the no work thing is what I don't agree with. It doesn't matter if you do work if God tells you to do it. Jesus told a man to take his mat and go home. A lot of people have to work on Sunday. they don't close hospitals and I don't think it would be wrong for doctors to go to work. I think it would be more wrong for people to be refused treatment because someone wanted to follow the letter of the Sabbath and not the Spirit. For Jesus healed on the Sabbath.
I can understand not buy and selling but some things people consider work I do not believe GOD considers work. If that makes any sense. We don't really cook nowadays with microwave dinners and such, we don't have to light fires with our stoves. Our lives are full of leisure in comparision
there are duties and things that still need to be done. Guards were on duty.
it says the priest profaned the Sabbath and were considered blameless. what does that mean?
I can understand not buy and selling but some things people consider work I do not believe GOD considers work. If that makes any sense. We don't really cook nowadays with microwave dinners and such, we don't have to light fires with our stoves. Our lives are full of leisure in comparision
there are duties and things that still need to be done. Guards were on duty.
it says the priest profaned the Sabbath and were considered blameless. what does that mean?