Sabbath made for Man

[AnandaHya]

romans 10:4..."Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes."

Matthew 5
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

ummm taken with the fact we can't have righteousness exceeding the scribes and Pharisees unless we have the IMPUTED righteousness of Jesus Christ. Faith in Jesus is the fulfillment of the requirement of the law.

Romans 1
nor I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,[a] for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”

Romans 3

21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all[h] who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Philippians 3
8 Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; 10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, 11 if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.

Acts 15:7-11
New King James Version (NKJV)
7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, 9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ[a] we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”

 

[Nalu]

only israel was ever commanded to observe the sabbath...the rest of the world doesn't need to...

Yes, I see it this way as well.

 

[Laodicea]

Yes, I see it this way as well.

The sabbath existed before Israel was given the 10 commandments and the sabbath is never called the sabbath of the Jews always the sabbath of the Lord, it is His day it does not belong to the Jews. There is no text in the Bible that says to keep holy the first day but, there is for the 7th day

 

[Helloimandrewyo]

The sabbath existed before Israel was given the 10 commandments and the sabbath is never called the sabbath of the Jews always the sabbath of the Lord, it is His day it does not belong to the Jews. There is no text in the Bible that says to keep holy the first day but, there is for the 7th day

Agreed, shabbos predates the adamic law. I don't feel it really has anything to do with being jewish, although they are the best at keeping it. Who wouldn't want to keep it anyways?

There are promised blessings for keeping the law, why wouldn't anyone want to cash in on that? Even outside of what you believe.

Maybe thats the jew in me speaking though. :]

 

[Laodicea]

Agreed, shabbos predates the adamic law. I don't feel it really has anything to do with being jewish, although they are the best at keeping it. Who wouldn't want to keep it anyways?

There are promised blessings for keeping the law, why wouldn't anyone want to cash in on that? Even outside of what you believe.

Maybe thats the jew in me speaking though. :]

Yes there are blessings in keeping the sabbath, the Pharisees made it a burden but it was always meant as a blessing

 

[Helloimandrewyo]

I mean, personally, i always look forward to shabbat. It's my one day of mentally detoxing, and spirirtual fullfilment. I found that if i can set a part that day to focus on HaShem, the rest of my week is unusually refreshing.

Every 7 years, even farmers let their fields lay barren to give their land a rest.

Sabbath is made for everyone, and everything i have always felt.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

The sabbath existed before Israel was given the 10 commandments and the sabbath is never called the sabbath of the Jews always the sabbath of the Lord, it is His day it does not belong to the Jews. There is no text in the Bible that says to keep holy the first day but, there is for the 7th day

the sabbath existed...but nobody was commanded to keep it until after the exodus when the israelites started receiving manna and quails...and even then only israel was commanded to keep it...

 

[Avinu]

The sabbath existed before Israel was given the 10 commandments and the sabbath is never called the sabbath of the Jews always the sabbath of the Lord, it is His day it does not belong to the Jews. There is no text in the Bible that says to keep holy the first day but, there is for the 7th day

Amen Laodicea, Amen

[QUOTEAgreed, shabbos predates the adamic law. I don't feel it really has anything to do with being jewish, although they are the best at keeping it. Who wouldn't want to keep it anyways?

There are promised blessings for keeping the law, why wouldn't anyone want to cash in on that? Even outside of what you believe.

Maybe thats the jew in me speaking though. :] ][/QUOTE]Amen, Helloimandrewyo

 

[Avinu]

Every 7 years, even farmers let their fields lay barren to give their land a rest.

You probably already know about this, but that is called the Shmitta Sabbath, the very thing that got Israel put into captivity for 70 yrs. in Babylon because they ignored 490 of Shmitta Sabbaths(land sabbaths) So if YHVH is going to punish this stiffly for disobeying the land sabbath, how much more does He care about the weekly Sabbath He commanded us to keep?

And Rachel, scripture says if we have received Messiah we have become a part of Yeshua, hence you are commanded to keep Sabbath. Period.

 

[Laodicea]

the sabbath existed...but nobody was commanded to keep it until after the exodus when the israelites started receiving manna and quails...and even then only israel was commanded to keep it...

It was kept before the 10 commandments were given
Genesis 26:5
(5) Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Exodus 16:23
(23) And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

 

[HEisgreaterthani]

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:3
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" Exodus 20:4
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain" Exodus 20:7
"Honour thy father and thy mother" Exodus 20:12
"Thou shalt not kill" Exodus 20:13
"Thou shalt not commit adultery" Exodus 20:14
"Thou shalt not steal" Exodus 20:15
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour" Exodus 20:16
"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house" Exodus 20:17

Have these been fulfilled? Are these a shadow of things to come? Are these only for Israel?
　
　
“Christ was given to the Jews, born of a Jewish mother, raised in a Jewish home. The Prophets were Jews, the apostles were Jews, the gospel was first preached to the Jews, every book of the New Testament written by a Jew. Even in heaven on the foundation stones of the New Jerusalem, we will see the names of the twelve disciples of Christ, Jews; on the gates of the city will be the names of twelve sons of Israel, Jews. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, all Jews, will be prominent in the kingdom, and Christ will sit upon the throne of His father David, a Jew.”

“Under these circumstances it is better for Christians not to speak sneeringly of the Sabbath of the LORD as being Jewish, as though that were a term of reproach.”

“The Sabbath shares the honor with marriage of stemming from Eden, before there were any Jews or Gentiles in existence. Marriage was regiven to the Jews, as was the Sabbath, but they are both the possession of mankind, not of any particular race or color.”

“And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed” - a Jew Galatians 3:29

M.L. Andreasen
　
LAW
“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:” Matthew 5:21
GRACE
“But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:” Matthew 5:22

LAW
“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:” Matthew 5:27
GRACE
“But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Matthew 5:28

To be guilty under the LAW, you had to do it. Under GRACE, all you had to do is want to do it.

Which one’s a higher standard?

“Follow peace with all men, and HOLINESS, without which no man shall see the Lord:” Hebrews 12:14

“Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God ACCEPTABLY with reverence and godly fear:” Hebrews 12:28

“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21

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"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law" Matthew 5:18

 

[Avinu]

Heisgreaterthani, very nicely put, Shalom

 

[TheAristocat]

YHVH also made the Sabbath a commandment for us to keep. Not just any day we choose. The seventh day of the week. Mark 2:28 is quoting Torah.

Lev. 23:3 "Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a Holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the SABBATH OF THE LORD in all your dwellings."

Amen. God's Torah was made for our benefit - to study, to obey, to meditate on - so that we could stand firm in our faith in Jesus as the Messiah and have a standard of holy living by which we could compare our lives.

 

[Grandpa]

Grandpa, no where in scripture does it say that when Yeshua died on the cross that the Torah was fulfilled.

Do you read the New Testament?

Colossians 2:14-15
14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

2Corinthians3

6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

Romans 5:19-20

19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

Romans 6:14
14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Matthew 5:17
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Jesus said that He came to fulfill the Law. It was upon His Cross that it was fulfilled. The Lamb of God who took away the sins of the world.

 

[Laodicea]

Do you read the New Testament?

Colossians 2:14-15
14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Colossians is talking about the ceremonial Sabbaths not the weekly sabbath. Look at these texts in Leviticus 23
Leviticus 23:32
(32) It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
Leviticus 23:35
(35) On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Leviticus 23:36-38
(36) Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.
(37) These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
(38) Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.

These texts are talking about the 7 feasts which were called Sabbaths or holy convocations. Also notice that Colossians says sabbath days not 'the Sabbath day'. So from this it is clear that Colossians is talking about the feast Sabbaths not the 7th day Sabbath

2Corinthians3

6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

Romans 7:6-7
(6) But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
(7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Galatians 3:24
(24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Romans 5:19-20

19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

Romans 6:14
14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Romans 6:15
(15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Matthew 5:17
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Jesus said that He came to fulfill the Law. It was upon His Cross that it was fulfilled. The Lamb of God who took away the sins of the world.

John 13:15
(15) For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

 

[Grandpa]

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:3
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" Exodus 20:4
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain" Exodus 20:7
"Honour thy father and thy mother" Exodus 20:12
"Thou shalt not kill" Exodus 20:13
"Thou shalt not commit adultery" Exodus 20:14
"Thou shalt not steal" Exodus 20:15
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour" Exodus 20:16
"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house" Exodus 20:17

Have these been fulfilled? Are these a shadow of things to come? Are these only for Israel?
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“Christ was given to the Jews, born of a Jewish mother, raised in a Jewish home. The Prophets were Jews, the apostles were Jews, the gospel was first preached to the Jews, every book of the New Testament written by a Jew. Even in heaven on the foundation stones of the New Jerusalem, we will see the names of the twelve disciples of Christ, Jews; on the gates of the city will be the names of twelve sons of Israel, Jews. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, all Jews, will be prominent in the kingdom, and Christ will sit upon the throne of His father David, a Jew.”

“Under these circumstances it is better for Christians not to speak sneeringly of the Sabbath of the LORD as being Jewish, as though that were a term of reproach.”

“The Sabbath shares the honor with marriage of stemming from Eden, before there were any Jews or Gentiles in existence. Marriage was regiven to the Jews, as was the Sabbath, but they are both the possession of mankind, not of any particular race or color.”

“And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed” - a Jew Galatians 3:29

M.L. Andreasen
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LAW
“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:” Matthew 5:21
GRACE
“But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:” Matthew 5:22

LAW
“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:” Matthew 5:27
GRACE
“But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Matthew 5:28

To be guilty under the LAW, you had to do it. Under GRACE, all you had to do is want to do it.

Which one’s a higher standard?

“Follow peace with all men, and HOLINESS, without which no man shall see the Lord:” Hebrews 12:14

“Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God ACCEPTABLY with reverence and godly fear:” Hebrews 12:28

“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21

The True Grace of God <- (click)
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"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law" Matthew 5:18

Grace is Gods mercy and forgiveness towards us. He forgives us for not keeping His Law.
Jesus definition of Law was more stringent than what the Jews thought they were "keeping". Jesus was showing them that they in fact do not keep Gods Law. The definition of the Law was not Grace. Jesus sacrifice on the Cross is Grace. His atoning for our sins is Grace.

Righteousness is imputed to us by Faith in Jesus Christ. Not by any works of any Laws we think we keep.

Poor people. You have ears and do not hear. Eyes and do not see. Why won't you see? Its all about Jesus and what He did for us on the Cross.

Jesus didn't make it harder for us to come to God. He made it easy. He said 'Come, you who are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest'. We were heavily burdened by the Law that we could not keep. But Jesus freed us from that guilt of not being able to keep His Law. He died for our sins.

 

[Laodicea]

Grace is Gods mercy and forgiveness towards us. He forgives us for not keeping His Law.
Jesus definition of Law was more stringent than what the Jews thought they were "keeping". Jesus was showing them that they in fact do not keep Gods Law. The definition of the Law was not Grace. Jesus sacrifice on the Cross is Grace. His atoning for our sins is Grace.

Righteousness is imputed to us by Faith in Jesus Christ. Not by any works of any Laws we think we keep.

Poor people. You have ears and do not hear. Eyes and do not see. Why won't you see? Its all about Jesus and what He did for us on the Cross.

Jesus didn't make it harder for us to come to God. He made it easy. He said 'Come, you who are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest'. We were heavily burdened by the Law that we could not keep. But Jesus freed us from that guilt of not being able to keep His Law. He died for our sins.

Romans 3:31
(31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

 

[Grandpa]

Colossians is talking about the ceremonial Sabbaths not the weekly sabbath. Look at these texts in Leviticus 23

Colossians is talking about what Jesus did for us on His Cross. He did NOT save us merely from a ceremonial law. He saved us from all of it. The whole thing and the curse that it brought to us. We were not cursed by a ceremonial law.

 

[Laodicea]

Colossians is talking about what Jesus did for us on His Cross. He did NOT save us merely from a ceremonial law. He saved us from all of it. The whole thing and the curse that it brought to us. We were not cursed by a ceremonial law.

The ceremonial Law points to the work of Christ. We can never be saved by keeping the Law, not in the OT or NT. The Bible says we are saved by grace through faith but, do we continue in sin after we have been saved by grace through faith? God forbid.

Let me ask you a question. Do you think God thinks it is ok to sin or should we after we have been saved, out of love for God, keep the Law. Yes or No?

 

[Grandpa]

The ceremonial Law points to the work of Christ. We can never be saved by keeping the Law, not in the OT or NT. The Bible says we are saved by grace through faith but, do we continue in sin after we have been saved by grace through faith? God forbid.

Let me ask you a question. Do you think God thinks it is ok to sin or should we after we have been saved, out of love for God, keep the Law. Yes or No?

No one keeps the Law. The Law is a curse to us. Jesus saves us from this Curse. We are to strive after the Spirit and the fruits of the Spirit. Fleshly things we leave behind. The Law just shows us the flaws of our flesh. The Law is not against the Spirit. It can't be.

Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self-Control are what we try to keep after we have been saved. They are the fruits of the spirit. Against such there is no Law, and therefore no curse.

And also the ceremonial law does point to the work of Christ. But it is not what the Lord saved us from on His Cross. He saved us from the Curse of the Law. From sin.