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There is no such thing as lawless. But I can tell you that serving God acceptably is not keeping the Law as the Jews do. Otherwise the Lord Jesus would not have had to come down and save us. We could just all be pharisees. But the Lord Jesus didn't really care for that, did He?
Romans 8:1-6
1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Paul says it much better than I ever could. The whole book of Romans speaks of this subject, pretty much.
from sun down Friday,till sundown Saturday,,,,,,,should we not light a fire? should we not start our car and light the fires in it?,...should we go to the meter pole and turn it off so that our men servants at the light company will also rest?,what about the fire at the light company,if we leave the lights on are we still using the fire at the electric company "just through a little wire"?,,,,,how far can a man walk on the sabbath? if you stop to fill your car is the man servant still working on the sabbath?, some men say they "honer the sabbath",,but if you look they,,,,are very active on the sabbath,they still make their post on the sabbath,and they still use their electric computer on the sabbath,so they still "pay their light bill" and they still buy on the sabbath unless they disconnect their service every Friday after noon,,and have it reconnected every Monday morning.,but why do they not turn it on each Sunday?,well because their are those who believe that to them the sabbath in on the first day. and so then they do not want to buy or sell on the first day. but they still keep their water service on,,,,,,,,,,it would sure cost a lot of money to turn the water off every Saturday night and have it reconnected every Monday wouldn't it?,and all of them in one accord it seems "keep their internet service" turned on across the sabbath,i have witnessed it,,,,i have witnessed them argue over the sabbath across,,,,,," both days they say is their sabbath",buying and selling and paying their men servants,and lighting the little fires in their motors,,,,, i have been to most every type of church to testify,but never to one who told me they turned the lights and water off because it was the sabbath and they could not buy it on the sabbath. and i never have had a man say to me all of his food was spoiled because he unplugged his icebox.,where do you draw the line?,,,,,,,,,,,when will you see that every man is guilty of it??????????yes in one way he are all Jew's,and all seventh day Adventist,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and on the other hand we are all the gentile who gives it no regard,,,,,,,,,,,and yea,,,even me "the thing i say do,i do not,,and the thing i say do not,,,,,,,,,,,, i do" ,let you all be persuaded in your "days",,,,,the spirit of me would not to do it,but the flesh of me will do it and not hear me. and the wages of sin is death,so the flesh of me will die and the spirit me will sleep and when i wake the body of me will not throw my food over my head.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,love to you all in this matter,pull it apart and look it over inside out,,,,,,,,,,,
You are right that these texts are about judging each other. where you are in error is your interpretation of:
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
You assume that this is talking about the Sabbath. which in and of itself is unlikely due to the fact that the Sabbath is not mentioned at all.
But a clue lies in the last part of the verse.
"Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind."
This tells us a lot about the subject. first of all we never see Paul or anyone else for that matter challenge the Sabbath. but we do see Paul and others talking about the ceremonial days and Sabbaths that historically are a point of contention.
One thing that helps understand Paul is reading similar arguments in other writings of His. For instance Galatians follows that same topics as Romans and so does Colossi ans etc.
Gal 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
Gal 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Now notice that the two other times that Paul is talking about days that are in contention he clearly is referring to ceremonial days.
Why does he speak differently here, than in Romans?
The simple answer is that in Romans he is speaking about Christians judging others who have not yet learned or been persuaded that these ceremonial days are a shadow of Christ.
But in Galatians and Colossians, Paul is speaking to people who knew that they were a shadow yet still got drawn back to observing them even though they had been taught they were a shadow.
There is not one single place that says that the 7th day Sabbath has changed or been done away with. using these texts is clutching at straws that do not really exist.
As long as God is our creator and our redeemer then the Sabbath will be important. that is what the Sabbath stands as a sign of.
Ultimately Paul is saying this:
Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
God will judge it is not our place.
remember one thing, Paul is not saying its ok for one to have one day and the other not to. he is simply saying don't judge. the very fact that he said let every man be persuaded in his own mind, suggests there is a right way and a wrong way.
here is an example to illustrate.
I could say. Do not judge each other over whether it is right to kill, for one man says not to kill and another says to kill for the Lord. but let each be persuaded in their own mind. For God will judge.
clearly one is wrong. I did not say they are both right but I made a point that it is not our place to judge.
So the flaws in this argument are these:
Paul does not say here that both are ok.
Paul is speaking about ceremonial days.
Never is the keeping of the 7th day Sabbath mentioned as an Issue in the Bible, not once. but there is contention over the ceremonial days and Sabbaths.
Blessings
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
You assume that this is talking about the Sabbath. which in and of itself is unlikely due to the fact that the Sabbath is not mentioned at all.
But a clue lies in the last part of the verse.
"Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind."
This tells us a lot about the subject. first of all we never see Paul or anyone else for that matter challenge the Sabbath. but we do see Paul and others talking about the ceremonial days and Sabbaths that historically are a point of contention.
One thing that helps understand Paul is reading similar arguments in other writings of His. For instance Galatians follows that same topics as Romans and so does Colossi ans etc.
Gal 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
Gal 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Now notice that the two other times that Paul is talking about days that are in contention he clearly is referring to ceremonial days.
Why does he speak differently here, than in Romans?
The simple answer is that in Romans he is speaking about Christians judging others who have not yet learned or been persuaded that these ceremonial days are a shadow of Christ.
But in Galatians and Colossians, Paul is speaking to people who knew that they were a shadow yet still got drawn back to observing them even though they had been taught they were a shadow.
There is not one single place that says that the 7th day Sabbath has changed or been done away with. using these texts is clutching at straws that do not really exist.
As long as God is our creator and our redeemer then the Sabbath will be important. that is what the Sabbath stands as a sign of.
Ultimately Paul is saying this:
Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
God will judge it is not our place.
remember one thing, Paul is not saying its ok for one to have one day and the other not to. he is simply saying don't judge. the very fact that he said let every man be persuaded in his own mind, suggests there is a right way and a wrong way.
here is an example to illustrate.
I could say. Do not judge each other over whether it is right to kill, for one man says not to kill and another says to kill for the Lord. but let each be persuaded in their own mind. For God will judge.
clearly one is wrong. I did not say they are both right but I made a point that it is not our place to judge.
So the flaws in this argument are these:
Paul does not say here that both are ok.
Paul is speaking about ceremonial days.
Never is the keeping of the 7th day Sabbath mentioned as an Issue in the Bible, not once. but there is contention over the ceremonial days and Sabbaths.
Blessings
IT was to teach them that their sin cost blood. that someone had to die for their sins. Jesus is the lamb. he is the one that the sacrifices represented. Even the Jews knew that the actual blood of the animals did nothing. but it was done in faith in the messiah that was to come.
Jesus is our sacrifice and was there's also.
Jesus is our sacrifice and was there's also.
now though to me i once went from this to that and from scripture to scripture and i was full of works..i needed to save me because i didnt believe christ had saved me. and i was afraid for my children because i did not know the truth.and i was afraid for you because you are both my brother and my sister. a man who will not care for his family is an infidel,,,you see,i needed to go about my fathers works because he's my family,and my wife and my children i need to give this truth ,,,because they are my family. and i need to say it to you ,because you are my family...and it is said Christ is the groom of the woman and he is no "infidel",,,,,,,,,,he is provided for you,,,,,it is finished and "you may rest from your works of saving yourselves",,,,,,,,you do not have a thing to do,and now that it is an holiday to you, you are free to go about your "rest",,,,,will you say to him "thank you" when you believe it is not yet yours?. then again if you hope you are saved you hope for it to come, and if you believe you are save from his sacrifice then you are full of hope. one "hope's for salvation" and has many works to accomplish to achieve it. and the other "has hope that he is saved" and is at rest from the many works of getting saved. I'm suppose to quote a scripture Luke 9;3 in my post,,,,,,,,and so for the ones where i did not mark 6;8 and if you think i have forgotten the other Matthew 10;10 and if these will not suffice deut. 4;2,,,,,deut.12;32,and rev.18-19,,,,,,,so if you hope you are doing the right work,then you hope that you will do a work that Christ did not do, Christ did a work because you did not and could not do it. so "rest from your work" in six days the lord did go about the whole creation,and rested. and in one day judged it,and found you to be dead,and then your death was crucified on the cross with him. and you were then again raised from that death,,,,,,,,,,,,and he will not come from that rest,,,from that sabbath,he will not again do a work to save you.and he will not deny that his blood redeemed you,and come to save you again ,and his father will not deny his sons blood.,,,one man is sad,,because a thing he could not loose he cannot find,for the thing he cannot find he has lost.and the other is glad for the thing he has lost,,another has found and when he came and saw he said,,,,"is it not lawful that if a man find an life in the field and then,,,,,,,,,,and it will be returned?",,,,who has found the thing you have lost?,,,,,,,,,,,yes he has returned it and you cannot find it again. how many time will you ask him for it ? seven times and then seven times more?,,,,,,,,,,,this life ,this rake,,,,,,,,he has returned it to you and you keep misplacing it in the field,,,,,,,,,,,,,take it in your hand and ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"go out and tend the garden"
I'll have a go. at the fall.
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
The First sacrifice was done by God in order to cloth Adam Eve's nakedness. and just as God covered their physical nakedness. so would he also cover their sins with his robe of righteousness through the death of His own Son.
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
The First sacrifice was done by God in order to cloth Adam Eve's nakedness. and just as God covered their physical nakedness. so would he also cover their sins with his robe of righteousness through the death of His own Son.
Where does it say in Old Testament Scripture that blood sacrifice was useless for the Hebrews? Christ covered sin more completely, but that God would have all those sacrifices of innocent blood for absolutely nothing? Hard to believe. God shows such great love for all life He created, as scripture clearly shows.