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Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Heb 4:9 Therefore remains a keeping of a sabbath for the people of the God.


Here's one for you...

Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
Mat 7:23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Mat 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
According to the Pharisees Jesus broke the Sabbath by healing a man. John 9:1-13

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the Pharisees didn't keep the LAW,
so they surely couldn't have discerned who was.

Jesus could never 'break' any of His own hand written LAWS,
for they are ETERNAL, written in heaven, before the
foundation of the world.
 
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just-me,

we are sorry that you have been attacked,
please know that you are much appreciated
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Thanks. I urge all who read the post of valiant to report him. I did because it is obvious the truth hurt, but as Jesus was attacked, we can expect the same. It's just too bad when it comes through the professing Christians that refuse to connect with Israel according to God's will and the teachings of Paul. We all know who instigates these tactics. We fight not against flesh and blood but against the principalities of darkness.

"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." John 15:18
 
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the Pharisees didn't keep the LAW,
so they surely couldn't have discerned who was.

Jesus could never 'break' any of His own hand written LAWS,
for they are ETERNAL, written in heaven, before the
foundation of the world.
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Thanks. I urge all who read the post of valiant to report him. I did because it is obvious the truth hurt, but as Jesus was attacked, we can expect the same. It's just too bad when it comes through the professing Christians that refuse to connect with Israel according to God's will and the teachings of Paul. We all know who instigates these tactics. We fight not against flesh and blood but against the principalities of darkness.

"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." John 15:18
perhaps(report), but in the past i just simply reported when he/she/it posted lies about the gospel.

the attacks have been long time, and they all run off like water off a ducks back, and not even noticed.
 
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According to the Pharisees Jesus broke the Sabbath by healing a man. John 9:1-13

For the cause of Christ
Roger
according the equiv of pharisees today, anyone who works on the day of worshiping the sun gooddess is sinning and is breaking the law,
and they put to death those who obey yahweh's word whenever and wherever they can --- usually getting someone else (like the sheriff or military or terrorists) to do the dirty deed(s) they are guilty of perpetrating.... (even in(and by) the usa) ) ;

so, listen to the pharisees? nah.

listen to yahweh? ABSOTIVELY POSILUTELY YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
 
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According to the Pharisees Jesus broke the Sabbath by healing a man. John 9:1-13

For the cause of Christ
Roger
You are correct that it was according to the Pharisees. According to the original law, tabernacles were built on a Sabbath day that God instituted through Moses. Jesus didn't break the law of His own Father, he broke a distorted law that wasn't written by God, but was written by the scribes and Pharisees who didn't understand the spiritual concepts that were pure and true from the beginning.

Leviticus 23:39-40.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the Lord seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.[SUP]
40 [/SUP]And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the Lord your God seven days.

Put this together with..

"For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." Hebrews 4:10

The Sabbath has always been a day to do God's works for our benefit, not our works. Jesus healing on the Sabbath was God's work.
 
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john832

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According to the Pharisees Jesus broke the Sabbath by healing a man. John 9:1-13

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Ah, so now these guys are reliable source...

Mat 23:3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Mat 23:5 But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments.

Mat 23:13 "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.

Well now, I certainly will look to them for determining the correct observance of the Sabbath.
 

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Thanks. I urge all who read the post of valiant to report him. I did because it is obvious the truth hurt, but as Jesus was attacked, we can expect the same. It's just too bad when it comes through the professing Christians that refuse to connect with Israel according to God's will and the teachings of Paul. We all know who instigates these tactics. We fight not against flesh and blood but against the principalities of darkness.

"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." John 15:18
You are correct that it was according to the Pharisees. According to the original law, tabernacles were built on a Sabbath day that God instituted through Moses. Jesus didn't break the law of His own Father, he broke a distorted law that wasn't written by God, but was written by the scribes and Pharisees who didn't understand the spiritual concepts that were pure and true from the beginning.

Leviticus 23:39-40.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the Lord seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.[SUP]
40 [/SUP]And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the Lord your God seven days.

Put this together with..

"For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." Hebrews 4:10

The Sabbath has always been a day to do God's works for our benefit, not our works. Jesus healing on the Sabbath was God's work.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to just-me again.
 
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perhaps(report), but in the past i just simply reported when he/she/it posted lies about the gospel.

the attacks have been long time, and they all run off like water off a ducks back, and not even noticed.
Reporting bad conduct is a good thing so that the innocent will not be driven away, or if the unsaved will see something they prefer not to be involved with.
 

notuptome

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Ah, so now these guys are reliable source...

Mat 23:3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Mat 23:5 But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments.

Mat 23:13 "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.

Well now, I certainly will look to them for determining the correct observance of the Sabbath.
Feigned outrage? You are the guy who preaches Sabbath observance not me. Are you condemning yourself along with the Pharisees?

I just need to determine how one keeps the Sabbath for righteousness sake. Jesus did not consider it a problem to work on the Sabbath.

For the cause of Christ
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yahshua never worked on the sabbath -- yahshua always did the work of the father no matter what day it is/was.
he didn't consider it a problem. he said it was disobedient and gives a severe penalty for not listening to yahweh.....
and yahweh says that honoring the sabbath is the sign (or a sign) of his people, even more so in the last days (we are in ).
 
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yahweh NEVER told someone that they

"..need to determine how one keeps the Sabbath for righteousness sake." no, not ever.

yahweh NEVER told someone, not anyone, to determine how to obey HIS WORD. no. not ever.

(not that i remember anyway. ) (yahweh simply tells us what to do, as he told his people.)
 

valiant

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Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Heb 4:9 Therefore remains a keeping of a sabbath for the people of the God.


Here's one for you...

Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
Mat 7:23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Mat 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Perhaps it is you who should read these words.? I fear for your soul.
 

valiant

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yahshua never worked on the sabbath -- yahshua always did the work of the father no matter what day it is/was.
he didn't consider it a problem. he said it was disobedient and gives a severe penalty for not listening to yahweh.....
and yahweh says that honoring the sabbath is the sign (or a sign) of his people, even more so in the last days (we are in ).
Funny that's not in my new testament
 

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Thanks. I urge all who read the post of valiant to report him. I did because it is obvious the truth hurt, but as Jesus was attacked, we can expect the same. It's just too bad when it comes through the professing Christians that refuse to connect with Israel according to God's will and the teachings of Paul. We all know who instigates these tactics. We fight not against flesh and blood but against the principalities of darkness.

"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." John 15:18
And the Pharisee prayed and SPOKE TO HIMSELF.
 
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to which yahshua says "why do you call me LORD, and not do what I TELL YOU TO DO ? " .....


and "IF you believed in ME, you would listen to MOSES; if you listened to MOSES, you would listen to ME".
("BECAUSE HE SPEAKS OF ME")
 
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to which yahshua says "why do you call me LORD, and not do what I TELL YOU TO DO ? " .....


and "IF you believed in ME, you would listen to MOSES; if you listened to MOSES, you would listen to ME".
("BECAUSE HE SPEAKS OF ME")
I recognize the scripture you are referring to (John 5:43-47)
Is it not amazing and revealing that those who quote Paul to debunk parts of God's Word, are demanding of themselves to do just the opposite of what Paul ministered about himself?

1 Corinthians 9:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
[SUP]21 [/SUP]To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

To bad that they render themselves incapable of correcting that which they condemn.
 
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Gal 5:2-5

Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Being circumcised binds a man to keep the whole Law. Observing the Sabbath of necessity binds a man to keep the whole Law. Those who see observance of the Sabbath and of the Law a necessity for salvation are thus cut off from Christ. They have fallen from grace.
















































 

john832

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Gal 5:2-5

Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Being circumcised binds a man to keep the whole Law. Observing the Sabbath of necessity binds a man to keep the whole Law. Those who see observance of the Sabbath and of the Law a necessity for salvation are thus cut off from Christ. They have fallen from grace.















































Same as keeping the sixth or seventh Commandment?