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posthuman

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and the office of the priesthood stands fast with Yahshua...
you might as well be saying Nahab and Abihu saying 'offerings of incense were still made'

not the incense according to the written commandment.
and the written command of the Law is that no one approach the Sanctuary but Levi.

how then do we approach His throne boldly?? obviously, not according to the Law of written commandments. by the Spirit. there is a extraordinarily important difference, the veil is torn. the Law says there must be a veil.

jot, tittle.
 

posthuman

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then you say the Messiah was wrong in Mat 5.

As I said the office of the Priesthood remains, the particular priests have changed...
do you really not comprehend a single word I say either?

are you guys poisoned or something??

I did not say there is no priest. I said, as the scriptures say, that Christ is not of Levi. different priesthood, different law, because the Law says only Levi is priest.

jot, tittle.
 

posthuman

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please don't become a liar like that other dude, Hiz.
 

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who is not of Levi

the book of Hebrews makes a big point of this. He is not priest according to the Law, this is why it is evident the law has changed.

jot.
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Are you saying you don't believe the Law and Prophets prophesied of a change in the Priesthood?
 

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DEUT.4 [27] And THE LORD SHALL SCATTER YOU AMONG THE NATIONS, AND YE SHALL BE LEFT FEW IN NUMBER AMONG THE HEATHEN, whither the LORD shall lead you.[28] And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.[29] BUT IF FROM THENCE THOU SHALT SEEK THE LORD THY GOD, THOU SHALT FIND HIM, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.[30] WHEN THOU ART IN TRIBULATION, AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE COME UPON THEE, EVEN IN THE LATTER DAYS, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;[31] (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

The Lord scatters the 10 {lost}tribes of the children of Israel amoung the gentiles for being disobedient. The lost sheep? Look what happens in the latter days.

MATT.15 [22] And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.[23] But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.[24] But he answered and said, I AM NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP of the house of Israel.

Jesus said "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel". Do you believe Jesus?

JER.50 [4] In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the LORD their God.[5] They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in A PERPETUAL COVENANT that shall not be forgotten.[6] MY PEOPLE HATH BEEN LOST SHEEP: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN THEIR RESTINGPLACE.

My people hath been lost sheep

they have forgotten their restingplace (they sure have)

let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten (remember the sabbath…)

Well, In Jeremiah we can find the sheep that Jesus came for. The remnant of the lost 10 tribes of the children of Israel, who believe they are nothing more than gentiles. Have the many been decieved, just as the new testament says. The sabbath rest has been forgotten by the gentiles, but as you can see, the lost sheep that Jesus came for will return to the “perpetual covenant” and keep Gods sabbath day.
 

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EXODUS 31[15] Six days may work be done; but in THE SEVENTH IS THE SABBATH of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.[16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a PERPETUAL COVENANT.[17] It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

If you have a KJV bible you will find the words “PERPETUAL COVENANT” only in these 2 scriptures. Jer. 50 and Exodus 31. Exodus 31 speaks of the sabbath as the “perpetual covenant” and Jer.50 speaks of that “perpetual covenant” being forgotten by His people. But...in verse 5 Gods people will return to that perpetual covenant {the sabbath} and it will not be forgotten

JER.50 [4] In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the LORD their God.[5] They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in A PERPETUAL COVENANT that shall not be forgotten.[6] MY PEOPLE HATH BEEN LOST SHEEP: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN THEIR RESTINGPLACE.

EZEKIEL 34 [9] Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the Lord; [10] Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them. [11] For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out. [12] AS A SHEPHERD SEEKETH OUT HIS FLOCK IN THE DAY THAT HE IS AMONG HIS SHEEP THAT ARE SCATTERED; SO WILL I SEEK OUT MY SHEEP, AND WILL DELIVER THEM OUT OF ALL PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN SCATTERED IN THE CLOUDY AND DARK DAY. [13] And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, AND WILL BRING THEM TO THEIR OWN LAND, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country. [14] I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel. [15] I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord God. [16] I WILL SEEK THAT WHICH WAS LOST, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.
 

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MATT.15 [22] And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.[23] But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.[24] But he answered and said, I AM NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP of the house of Israel.

Jesus said "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel"

JEREMIAH 50 [4] IN THOSE DAYS, and in that time, saith the Lord, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the Lord their God. [5] They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the Lord in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten. [6] MY PEOPLE HATH BEEN LOST SHEEP: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: THEY HAVE GONE FROM MOUNTAIN TO HILL, THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN THEIR RESTINGPLACE.

MY PEOPLE HATH BEEN LOST SHEEP {V:6} gone from the mountain to the hill. Why? They forgot their resting place

ISAIAH 2 [2] And it shall come to pass IN THE LAST DAYS, that the mountain of THE LORD'S HOUSE SHALL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAINS, AND SHALL BE EXALTED ABOVE THE HILLS; and all nations shall flow unto it. [3] And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of zion shall GO FORTH THE LAW, and THE WORD OF THE LORD FROM JERUSALEM.

Look what happens in the last days

In Jer.50 we see how Gods people went from the mountains to the hills and had forgotten their restingplace? The sabbath. But in the above scripture it says “in the last days” the Lords house will be established on the top of the mountains and exalted above the hills. Jer.50 [5] also says that Gods people (the lost sheep Jesus said He came for) will return to His sabbath.

ZECHARIAH 8 [23] Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that TEN MEN shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

The 10 men. The remnant of the 10 {lost} scattered tribes?
 

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you might as well be saying Nahab and Abihu saying 'offerings of incense were still made'

not the incense according to the written commandment.
and the written command of the Law is that no one approach the Sanctuary but Levi.

how then do we approach His throne boldly?? obviously, not according to the Law of written commandments. by the Spirit. there is a extraordinarily important difference, the veil is torn. the Law says there must be a veil.

jot, tittle.
Naha and Abihu... stretch much?

This passages shows both what you claim and deny: the blood of Yahshua ratifying the covenant and the Law written on the heart.

Hebrews 10:14-19,, “For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are being set apart. And the Set-apart Spirit also witnesses to us, for after having said before, This is the covenant that I shall make with them after those days, says יהוה, giving My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I shall write them, (Jer 31:33)” and, “Their sins and their lawlessness I shall remember no more. (Jer 31:34)” Now where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer a slaughter offering for sin. So, brothers, having boldness to enter into the Set-apart Place by the blood of יהושע.”
 

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do you really not comprehend a single word I say either?

are you guys poisoned or something??

I did not say there is no priest. I said, as the scriptures say, that Christ is not of Levi. different priesthood, different law, because the Law says only Levi is priest.

jot, tittle.
Who said Messiah is of the tribe of Levi, you stating things as if I said them... here is a complete breakdown of the Law and the priesthood, consider the original language, particularly what I have bolded. IN english it simply says "change" in both places, yet the greek says different:

Hebrews 7:13, “For He of whom this is said belongs to another tribe, from which no one had attended at the Altar. For it is perfectly clear that our Master arose from Yehuḏah, a tribe about which Mosheh never spoke of concerning priesthood.”



Hebrews 7:11-12, “Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed (#G3331), there is made of necessity a change (#G3346) also of the law.”



Notice it is the same word in English “change” but in the Greek they are 2 different words?



“For the priesthood being changed (#G3331), there is made of necessity a change (#G3346) also of the law.”



If we only look at the English it is easy to misunderstand what the writer of Hebrews is seeking to tell us. Lets take a deeper look at the difference between these words:



“For the priesthood being changed (#G3331)”



“changed” is word #G3331 μετάθεσις metathesis (me-ta'-the-sis) n., transposition, i.e. transferral (to heaven), disestablishment (of a law). [from G3346], KJV: change, removing, translation, Root(s): G3346



Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)

#G3331 μετάθεσις metathesis; 1) transfer: from one place to another 2) to change 2a) of things instituted or established



As in the priesthood on earth, the Levite priesthood has been abolished, and the Priesthood in the heavens, carried out by Yahshua is established. This “change” or “metathesis” is a removal of one that is replaced by another.




“there is made of necessity a change (#G3346) also of the law.”



Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)

From G3346; transposition, that is, transferral (to heaven), disestablishment (of a law):—change, removing, translation.



“change” is word #G3346 μετατίθημι metatithemi (me-ta-tiy'-thee-miy) v., 1. to transfer., 2. (literally) to transport., 3. (by implication) to exchange., 4. (reflexively) to change sides. [from G3326 and G5087], KJV: carry over, change, remove, translate, turn, Root(s): G3326, G5087



Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)

#G3346 μετατίθημι metatithemi; 1) to transpose (two things, one of which is put in place of the other) 1a) to transfer 1b) to change 1c) to transfer one's self or suffer one's self to be transferred 1c1) to go or pass over 1c2) to fall away or desert from one person or thing to another



Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)

#G3346 μετατίθημι metatithemi; From G3326 and G5087; to transfer, that is, (literally) transport, (by implication) exchange, (reflexively) change sides, or (figuratively) pervert:—carry over, change, remove, translate, turn.



As in the Law has been transferred, not mediated by Levites but mediated by Yahshua the High Priest. This “change” or “metatithemi” is a transferral.




John/Yahanan 14:6, “Yahshua proclaimed to him: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father, except through Me.”



Hebrews 7:24-25,"but He, because He remains forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. Therefore He is also able to save completely those who draw near to יהוה through Him, ever living to make intercession for them."
 

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.. a change in the priesthood is accounted for, here for example: Psalms 110
1The Lord says to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand,
until I make your enemies your footstool.”

2The Lord sends forth from Zion
your mighty scepter.
Rule in the midst of your enemies!
3Your people will offer themselves freely
on the day of your power,a
in holy garments;b
from the womb of the morning,
the dew of your youth will be yours.c
4The Lord has sworn
and will not change his mind,
“You are a priest forever
after the order of Melchizedek.”

5The Lord is at your right hand;
he will shatter kings on the day of his wrath.
6He will execute judgment among the nations,
filling them with corpses;
he will shatter chiefsd
over the wide earth.
7He will drink from the brook by the way;
therefore he will lift up his head.
 

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Lost sheep~ this passage spans over 3000 years?

Hosea 8:8) Israel is swallowed up; Now they are among the Gentiles Like a vessel in which is no pleasure. (9) For they have gone up to Assyria, Like a wild donkey alone by itself; Ephraim has hired lovers. (10) Yes, though they have hired among the nations, Now I will gather them; And they shall sorrow a little, Because of the burden of the king of princes.

9;17 My God will cast them away, Because they did not obey Him; And they shall be wanderers among the nations.
 

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How do you see Jer 31 and Heb 10 not being a Covenant to Israyl that Yahshua ratified when Hebrews 10 explain it that way, I will ask 3 questions concerning this below:

Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is יהוה our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, The Word He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant He made with Aḇraham, And His oath to Yitsḥaq, And established it to Ya‛aqoḇ for a law, To Yisra’yl – an everlasting covenant.”

Is PS 105 above and in Jer 31, we see this is the same covenant made to Israyl was made with Abraham. DO you agree or disagree?

Jeremiah 31:33, “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Yisra’yl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people.”

Hebrews explains it, this Covenant IS THE SAME COVENANT ratified in the blood of Messiah: Do you agree or disagree?

Hebrews 10:14-19,, “For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are being set apart. And the Set-apart Spirit also witnesses to us, for after having said before, This is the covenant that I shall make with them after those days, says יהוה, giving My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I shall write them, (Jer 31:33)” and, “Their sins and their lawlessness I shall remember no more. (Jer 31:34)” Now where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer a slaughter offering for sin. So, brothers, having boldness to enter into the Set-apart Place by the blood of יהושע.”
I got the sense that you didn't like multiple posts in reply to a single one of yours, so I'll reply to the first thing that I hit as it were.

I do see the Covenant in Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 as with Israel.

In Jeremiah 31 verse 31, I believe it says that the Covenant is made with the house of Israel

And the house of Judah.

I believe those words are repeated in Hebrews 8 also.
 

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You not getting what Im saying. Im saying just because someone claimms to be in the Spirit does not make it so. The Spirit does not teach different "truths" to different people. The Spirit would always line up with the written Word...

Look at Paul's fruits of the Spirit passage, every fruit of the spirit is Law according to YHWH;s Law, every fruit of the flesh is a sin according to YHWH's Law.
Yes I agree with everything you wrote. I think that not only does walking by the spirit line up with the written word, but the spirit also guide you into all truth about that word.

And yes every aspect of the Fruit of the Spirit is in line with the Commandments of God. One difference being that growing the fruit of the spirit is not a particular set of physical actions, as say, going to the place where the Lord causes his name to dwell to celebrate a feast. Or stoning someone.
 

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YOu just contradicted yourself in a single sentence...

Look to where he read the Scroll of Isaiah and stopped in the middle of the passage.. Why? Because He still has to fulfill the prophecies in the Law and the Prophets...

Luke 4:17-21, “And the scroll of the prophet Yeshayahu was handed to Him. And having unrolled the scroll, He found the place where it was written: “The Spirit of יהוה is upon Me, because He has anointed Me to bring the Good News to the poor. He has sent Me to heal the broken-hearted, to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to send away crushed ones with a release, to proclaim the acceptable year of יהוה.” (Isa 61:1-3) And having rolled up the scroll, He gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all in the congregation were fixed upon Him. And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been filled in your hearing.”





Fulfilled already - To be fulfilled in the future





Isaiah 61:1-11, "61:1, “The Spirit of the Master יהוה is upon Me, because יהוה has anointed Me to bring good news to the meek. He has sent Me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim release to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound,"61:2, "to proclaim the acceptable year of יהוה, and the day of vengeance of our Mighty One, to comfort all who mourn,"61:3, "to appoint unto those who mourn in Tsiyon: to give them embellishment for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness. And they shall be called trees of righteousness, a planting of יהוה, to be adorned."61:4, "And they shall rebuild the old ruins, raise up the former wastes. And they shall restore the ruined cities, the wastes of many generations."61:5, "And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the foreigner be your plowmen and your vine dressers."61:6, "But you shall be called, ‘Priests of יהוה,’ ‘Servants of our Mighty One’ shall be said of you. You shall consume the strength of the nations, and boast in their esteem."61:7, "Instead of your shame and reproach, they rejoice a second time in their portion. Therefore they take possession a second time in their land, everlasting joy is theirs."61:8, "“For I, יהוה, love right-ruling; I hate robbery for ascending offering. And I shall give their reward in truth, and make an everlasting covenant with them."61:9, "“And their seed shall be known among the nations, and their offspring in the midst of the peoples. All who see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed יהוה has blessed.”"61:10, "I greatly rejoice in יהוה, my being exults in my Mighty One. For He has put garments of deliverance on me, He has covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decks himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels."61:11, "For as the earth brings forth its bud, as the garden causes the seed to shoot up, so the Master יהוה causes righteousness and praise to shoot up before all the nations!”
I did not contradict myself. Fulfilling the law and the prophets is not the same as fulfilling all the prophecies in the law and the prophets. Do you agree that the law and the prophets is to do to others like you want them to do to you?
 

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This is what Scripture says:

Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is יהוה our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, The Word He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant He made with Abraham, And His oath to Yitsḥaq, And established it to Ya‛aqoḇ for a law, To Yisra’yl – an everlasting covenant.”

Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is יהוה our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth.

He has remembered His covenant forever, The Word He commanded, for a thousand generations,

The covenant He made with Abraham,

And His oath to Yitsḥaq,

And established it to Ya‛aqoḇ for a law,

To Yisra’yl – an everlasting covenant.”


ADD ps 89 showing the Covenant stands fast with the Messiah, look to Hebrews 10 explanation of how the same Covenant spoken of in Jer 31, to Israyl, is ratified in the blood of Messiah...and to me it becomes clear. Now it goes against traditional doctrine, but it is clearly written in the Word...
You keep quoting Psalm 105, but there's no necessary connection between the Covenant in that psalm and the Covenant that God made with Israel when he brought them out of Egypt.

Do you agree that a person or people can be under more than one Covenant at the same time?
 

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I never said that, when we talked about it I said "Yah can do anything He wants to" However in Scripture I see the Covenant made with Abraham continuing and being perfected if you will in Messiah.. Again PS 105, PS 89, Jer 31, Heb 10...
Do you agree that all humans are under the Covenant that God made not to destroy the Earth again by flood? That would mean every Israelite is under at least 2 Covenants.
 

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Again this statement contradicts it self. The prophecies we are talking about are in "The Law and the Prophets" so if all the prophecies within "The Law and the Prophets" are not fulfilled then have NOT YET been fulfilled completely.

1st 3 Feasts were about the Messiah coming as the Passover Lamb, these are fulfilled..

last 4 Feasts are about Him returning as Conquering Lion, these are not yet fulfilled...

This is an overwiew in Scriptrue by YHWH showing His prophetic plan.... It is not yet complete...
No, the statement does not contradict itself.

If you don't believe that Jesus fulfilled the law and the prophets has he said he came to do, then I would say you have just half a gospel.

A Jesus who only did a half job.

A person with a half gospel would want to keep rules and Commandments from the Old Testament, that would make a lot of sense!
 

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We alrady talked about this and I type out a response and you ignore it and post these one liners like you have been doing...

Yahshua was doing the will of YHWH yet the Pharisees accused Him of sin;

Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."

Many times when Yahshua talks to people He speaks in ways where He uses their own logic to prove what they say is wrong, that is the case here…

Matthew 12:5-6, “Or did you not read in the Torah that on the Sabbath the priests in the Set-apart Place profane the Sabbath, and are blameless? But I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the Set-apart Place.”

If indeed it is “Mat 12:12, "...it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath." Then no sin has been committed by the priests or by Yahshua, He was using their own logic to show them their error.
I agree that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. I'm not sure what translation it is that you're using that says righteousness which is similar to doing good, but not the same.

And in the process of doing good, a person may well profane the Sabbath.

I disagree that Jesus is copying someone else's words there.
 

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I got the sense that you didn't like multiple posts in reply to a single one of yours, so I'll reply to the first thing that I hit as it were.

I do see the Covenant in Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 as with Israel.

In Jeremiah 31 verse 31, I believe it says that the Covenant is made with the house of Israel

And the house of Judah.

I believe those words are repeated in Hebrews 8 also.
.... raound and round we go... Can you actually acknoledge this for once:

This COvenant in Jer 31 and quoted in Heb 8 and 10 is ratified in the bloof of Yahshua:

Hebrews 10:14-20, “For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are being set apart. And the Set-apart Spirit also witnesses to us, for after having said before, This is the covenant that I shall make with them after those days, says יהוה, giving My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I shall write them,” (Jer 31:33, Heb 8:8-12) and, “Their sins and their lawlessnesses I shall remember no more.” (Jer 31:34) Now where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer a sacrifice offering for sin. So, brothers, having boldness to enter into the Set-apart Place by the blood of יהושע, by a new and living way which He instituted for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh,”

SO here is my question concerning this;

If you believe Gentiles have not part in this Covenant, what part do Gentiels have with the Messiah? As THIS IS the Covenant ratified by Him...
 

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No, the statement does not contradict itself.

If you don't believe that Jesus fulfilled the law and the prophets has he said he came to do, then I would say you have just half a gospel.

A Jesus who only did a half job.

A person with a half gospel would want to keep rules and Commandments from the Old Testament, that would make a lot of sense!
So do you believe He has already had His second coming? Because that is the most spoken prophecy in the prophets...