SALVATION ONLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT WORKS!
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And, the Ten Commandments say you will not Murder not you will not Kill. There's a huge difference. The first is premeditated and in cold blood. The second may be something like the death penalty for a serial killer or going to war against God's enemies or saving your family from being killed in a house robbery (for example).
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Do you love Jesus?
I love Jesus
I love his word
I read his word
I follow him because I love him
do you love him?
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Do you love Jesus?
I love Jesus
I love his word
I read his word
I follow him because I love him
do you love him?
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
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No. You stand on your twisted interpretation/
You merely belief, You have no faith at all. Faith is an assurance of what is promised will occure. Your faith is in yourself not God.
Your interpretation of righteousness is mans interpretation. My interpretation is Gods. Which is 100% obedience to his laws and commands, and anyone who falls short is condemned .
You ignore this.
Actually your religion is from satan, He made it up thousands of years ago, it has many types and flavors, but it is still the same basic premeis. Man must make up for his own sin, and Do all these religious works. and MAYBE just MAYBE God will forgive them.
Good luck in your trek.
there are two types of sanctification.
1. Positional (also known as justification) Gods children are SET-APART from those ho are not his children, and are his enemy.
2. Conditional. Gods children must learn to grow and trust him, and their lives will change because of this, and they will conditionally be set-apart from the world.
You merely belief, You have no faith at all. Faith is an assurance of what is promised will occure. Your faith is in yourself not God.
Your interpretation of righteousness is mans interpretation. My interpretation is Gods. Which is 100% obedience to his laws and commands, and anyone who falls short is condemned .
You ignore this.
Actually your religion is from satan, He made it up thousands of years ago, it has many types and flavors, but it is still the same basic premeis. Man must make up for his own sin, and Do all these religious works. and MAYBE just MAYBE God will forgive them.
Good luck in your trek.
there are two types of sanctification.
1. Positional (also known as justification) Gods children are SET-APART from those ho are not his children, and are his enemy.
2. Conditional. Gods children must learn to grow and trust him, and their lives will change because of this, and they will conditionally be set-apart from the world.
Titus 3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Titus 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Titus 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Titus 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Titus 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Re: SALVATION ONLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT WORKS!
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tell me what the righteousness of christ is?
do you have it?
Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
When you say the righteousness of christ you can say
since they are equivalent
the ten commandment keeping of Christ
So I suppose you have the righteousness which is of the law?
Me, I will take the righteousness which is based upon the perfect faith OF Christ and it has been applied to my life by faith.....
Your works that you trust....did you do enough today?...the faith of Christ is still covering me today and I have entered into HIS REST based upon faith and have ceased from works as the LAW IS NOT OF FAITH....so have you completely kept the law today?
No as you accuse without 2 or 3 witness....you broke the law today and are still in your sins! and LOST according to scripture!
How about answer the charges oh man of law!
tell me what the righteousness of christ is?
do you have it?
Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
When you say the righteousness of christ you can say
since they are equivalent
the ten commandment keeping of Christ
So I suppose you have the righteousness which is of the law?
Me, I will take the righteousness which is based upon the perfect faith OF Christ and it has been applied to my life by faith.....
Your works that you trust....did you do enough today?...the faith of Christ is still covering me today and I have entered into HIS REST based upon faith and have ceased from works as the LAW IS NOT OF FAITH....so have you completely kept the law today?
No as you accuse without 2 or 3 witness....you broke the law today and are still in your sins! and LOST according to scripture!
How about answer the charges oh man of law!
E
Here is what is different about you and me
You boast of you ability to keep his comands, and refuse to acknowledge how terribly inept you are at doing so in accordance with HIS requirment (perfection)
I admit I can not keep them in accordance with his requirement, and continue to ask his power to help me at least grow every day, being more like him.
Your faith is in yourself.
My faith is in God.
J
i feel like crying,what you explained here is what i saw in 2010 when God corrected me by giving me a Second Chance to live when i thought my works were not enough(continuously falling short of good works) and i Deserve Judgement by His hands by ending everything.
And i saw His True Character then,......the Anxious Father who held His prodigal son from doing the stupid act of quitting life.
Not to offend anyone here,but to confirm what you said.
Learning a lot each day after that unforgettable Encounter with God.
Thanks for pointing this it out.
The LOVE OF GOD is the sole reason why people changed and got their life transformed to a better Holier walk in Christ.Because God First Loved us,we Love Him back.Not that we can repay enough,but to reflect Christ more in us By His Grace.
Again,Thanks a lot for the beautiful way you explained it.
Christianity is a Holy Addiction
[video=youtube;LuvfMDhTyMA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvfMDhTyMA[/video]
One more day ahead if there,every Christian tries to do something more that can put a smile on the Face of Jesus
May God Bless you more and more for the Revelation you received
Let's all Pray more when we convict the same(people) whom we convict,and Forgive more that God Forgives us more of our failures(even the ones unknown to us).
And i saw His True Character then,......the Anxious Father who held His prodigal son from doing the stupid act of quitting life.
Not to offend anyone here,but to confirm what you said.
Learning a lot each day after that unforgettable Encounter with God.
Thanks for pointing this it out.
The LOVE OF GOD is the sole reason why people changed and got their life transformed to a better Holier walk in Christ.Because God First Loved us,we Love Him back.Not that we can repay enough,but to reflect Christ more in us By His Grace.
Again,Thanks a lot for the beautiful way you explained it.
Christianity is a Holy Addiction
[video=youtube;LuvfMDhTyMA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvfMDhTyMA[/video]
One more day ahead if there,every Christian tries to do something more that can put a smile on the Face of Jesus
May God Bless you more and more for the Revelation you received
Let's all Pray more when we convict the same(people) whom we convict,and Forgive more that God Forgives us more of our failures(even the ones unknown to us).