saved by christ works or saved by your own?,,,,
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What he said was plain.
Read it.
What I said is just as plain. Read it.
There are no shadows here.
Jesus followed the UNCTION of the Holy Spirit.
How is this guiding principle not a work of the Holy Spirit within the believer? (not a work within the person)
(Those who are disciples of Christ)
"They will know you by your fruits" - Whose fruits? The person's or the Spirit's?
Read it.
What I said is just as plain. Read it.
There are no shadows here.
Jesus followed the UNCTION of the Holy Spirit.
How is this guiding principle not a work of the Holy Spirit within the believer? (not a work within the person)
(Those who are disciples of Christ)
"They will know you by your fruits" - Whose fruits? The person's or the Spirit's?
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Was Jesus given a name far above the angels, was He found righteous by His obedience, was He gloried because of His obedience to God's will or was it the Spirit who was glorified for the obedience. Are we rewarded for our deeds done under the Spirit or is the Spirit rewarded?
Obedience to the Spirit produces fruits, that is why we creatures of freewill are to follow Him, seeing that He leads to perfection when we comply to His directions. And by those fruits we are rewarded with everlasting wreaths.
But all glory still goes to God, seeing that without His new Covenant, there would be no Spirit to lead us into doing God's will freely. We do not obey to obtain salvation, we obey knowing that everlasting life with God and the Son and the Spirit will be granted to us.
Obedience to the Spirit produces fruits, that is why we creatures of freewill are to follow Him, seeing that He leads to perfection when we comply to His directions. And by those fruits we are rewarded with everlasting wreaths.
But all glory still goes to God, seeing that without His new Covenant, there would be no Spirit to lead us into doing God's will freely. We do not obey to obtain salvation, we obey knowing that everlasting life with God and the Son and the Spirit will be granted to us.
'We do not obey to obtain salvation, we obey knowing that everlasting life with God and the Son and the Spirit will be granted to us.'
That's my point.
And the 'glorification' you speak of is ALWAYS the Lord's.
We don't sin that grace abounds, if we do; we are in a heap of trouble.
But neither are we saved by our own works.
Or else Jesus died in vain.
All praise and honor goes to Jesus, to the glory of the Father. -
So I don't draw a difference between Jesus' glory, the Holy Spirit's glory' or
the Father's glory. When we praise and worship Jesus is that not glorifying Him?
When the Holy Spirit changes a hard heart into flesh, is that not glorifying the Holy Spirit in a type? -
In the life that It changed?
That's my point.
And the 'glorification' you speak of is ALWAYS the Lord's.
We don't sin that grace abounds, if we do; we are in a heap of trouble.
But neither are we saved by our own works.
Or else Jesus died in vain.
All praise and honor goes to Jesus, to the glory of the Father. -
So I don't draw a difference between Jesus' glory, the Holy Spirit's glory' or
the Father's glory. When we praise and worship Jesus is that not glorifying Him?
When the Holy Spirit changes a hard heart into flesh, is that not glorifying the Holy Spirit in a type? -
In the life that It changed?
Works done to save oneself by one's self? That is a twist isn't it?
Mandatory yielding to God is not saving oneself by oneself no more than a starving man is saving himself by himself by eating the food provided to him by another.
Would the man who told him that he "must eat" be teaching him that he was saving himself by himself?
Only with the convoluted logic you exhibit is such nonsense put forth.
When Jesus was asked...
Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
He responded with...
Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
We are not saved so that we can then go and strive. No, we are to strive that we may be saved. Does a man who is drowning not have to grab a hold of the life buoy thrown to him? Indeed! Likewise we have to grab hold of the instructions given to us by Jesus Christ and DO THEM.
Likewise WE BUILD our house upon the correct foundation which is Jesus Christ.
Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Mat 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Is a drowning man saved so that he may then grab a hold of the life preserver? Only in false Christianity is such a fallacy taught.
False Christianity teaches that one is saved while still remaining a worker of iniquity. What foolishness.
Mandatory yielding to God is not saving oneself by oneself no more than a starving man is saving himself by himself by eating the food provided to him by another.
Would the man who told him that he "must eat" be teaching him that he was saving himself by himself?
Only with the convoluted logic you exhibit is such nonsense put forth.
When Jesus was asked...
Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
He responded with...
Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
We are not saved so that we can then go and strive. No, we are to strive that we may be saved. Does a man who is drowning not have to grab a hold of the life buoy thrown to him? Indeed! Likewise we have to grab hold of the instructions given to us by Jesus Christ and DO THEM.
Likewise WE BUILD our house upon the correct foundation which is Jesus Christ.
Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Mat 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Is a drowning man saved so that he may then grab a hold of the life preserver? Only in false Christianity is such a fallacy taught.
False Christianity teaches that one is saved while still remaining a worker of iniquity. What foolishness.
You fail to distinguish between works of faith and works of the law. Works of faith are an absolutely MANDATORY aspect of salvation.
If they are not then Noah did not have to build the ark to the saving of his household.
Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Righteousness is by faith because faith establishes the law in the heart.
Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Which again, points us to the purpose of the commandment.
1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
False Christianity teaches that salvation is abstract in principle and that a sinning wretch is positionally saved while they still remain in bondage. Pure foolishness.
If they are not then Noah did not have to build the ark to the saving of his household.
Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Righteousness is by faith because faith establishes the law in the heart.
Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Which again, points us to the purpose of the commandment.
1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
False Christianity teaches that salvation is abstract in principle and that a sinning wretch is positionally saved while they still remain in bondage. Pure foolishness.
You say you save yourself by doing the 'works of faith'.
You are so completely wrong, - as if the 'works of faith' come from within yourself.
It is the Holy Spirit that provides those 'so called' works.
The faith is the instrument through which the fruits of the Spirit come through, (which you
erroneously label works)
- I can see how under the mindset you are under my logic could be considered 'convoluted'.
So was Jesus' gospel to the Pharisee's, another sect that thought they could appease God by
doing certain things.
'False Christianity teaches that one is saved while still remaining a worker of iniquity. What foolishness.'
Iniquity - Old english for inequity.
What's more inequitable than attaching works to the propitiation of Jesus' perfect life and obedient death?
Your completely mixing up salvation with sanctification.
To a danger to your own soul and those that heed you.
Iniquity - Old english for inequity.
What's more inequitable than attaching works to the propitiation of Jesus' perfect life and obedient death?
Your completely mixing up salvation with sanctification.
To a danger to your own soul and those that heed you.
'You fail to distinguish between works of faith and works of the law. Works of faith are an absolutely MANDATORY aspect of salvation.'
Again, you call the outgrowth of a branch from the true vine a 'work'.
Completely and utterly erroneous.
Next time you see a fruit tree or a grape vine....notice how hard the branches 'work'.
Again, you call the outgrowth of a branch from the true vine a 'work'.
Completely and utterly erroneous.
Next time you see a fruit tree or a grape vine....notice how hard the branches 'work'.
"I am the True Vine, He that abides in Me shall yield much FRUIT."
It's the fruit of the Holy Spirit in the disciples life that you mistakenly call
'works'.
But then again, how much work is it to love the Lord w/ everything you are and your neighbor as yourself?
It's impossible under our fallen constitutions!
That is why the Holy Spirit can be,(and only will be), that which yields in our lives the fruit
Jesus speaks of........this is how one can tell if he/she is in the TRUE vine.
It's the fruit of the Holy Spirit in the disciples life that you mistakenly call
'works'.
But then again, how much work is it to love the Lord w/ everything you are and your neighbor as yourself?
It's impossible under our fallen constitutions!
That is why the Holy Spirit can be,(and only will be), that which yields in our lives the fruit
Jesus speaks of........this is how one can tell if he/she is in the TRUE vine.
Hey Skinski,
Are you going to answer me or do you want me to keep going?
There are many more allegories that Jesus likened Himself to.
All of which point to Him and His followers being one........
Through faith in His finished work. - (Notice the work is His)
The faith is ours through the unmerited favor of God, (not our own works);
lest any man should boast.
Are you going to answer me or do you want me to keep going?
There are many more allegories that Jesus likened Himself to.
All of which point to Him and His followers being one........
Through faith in His finished work. - (Notice the work is His)
The faith is ours through the unmerited favor of God, (not our own works);
lest any man should boast.
Stop mixing sanctification with salvation,
this is pride in one's own ability.
You are either in Him or you're not.
The 'works' you claim are nothing more than the signs of a changed soul,
changed by the Spirit of God - (notice outward, not your own doing).
We are to heed His call.
All that are in Him will. (Even this is His doing).
That no flesh should stand in His presence saying, - "I have done something".
But every knee will bow........both those in heaven, and those on earth, and those in hell;
saying Jesus IS Lord.
this is pride in one's own ability.
You are either in Him or you're not.
The 'works' you claim are nothing more than the signs of a changed soul,
changed by the Spirit of God - (notice outward, not your own doing).
We are to heed His call.
All that are in Him will. (Even this is His doing).
That no flesh should stand in His presence saying, - "I have done something".
But every knee will bow........both those in heaven, and those on earth, and those in hell;
saying Jesus IS Lord.
Now I close my time on this thread since I couldn't get anyone to answer me.
I only ask that when you finally think of a response Skinski,
that you address what you called 'works of faith' vs. the fruits of the Spirit.
And try to keep it under four hundred words. (If Jesus preached like you argue the sermon on the mount
would have been fifty pages.)
I only ask that when you finally think of a response Skinski,
that you address what you called 'works of faith' vs. the fruits of the Spirit.
And try to keep it under four hundred words. (If Jesus preached like you argue the sermon on the mount
would have been fifty pages.)
This is your downfall and reveals a major weakness and unbelief in your heart concerning the promise and keeping power of God in the believer's life that was imputed by grace through faith. You reveal the tremendous lack of understanding concerning the irreversible divine imputations that take place the moment we believe and you reveal your ignorance concerning the faithfulness of God according to His promises. You have alot of growing up to do in the grace and knowledge of Christ and you better start now, because there is no time like the present. You need to put yourself under a pastor-teacher that God has raised up for the church that can straighten these errors out for you. I hope you will humble yourself and do that like, as so many of us have done in the will of God. It is not good to be an independent believer having no under-shepherd that God ordains to be over you in the Lord.
Did someone say that "works of faith come from within oneself"? Again, you put forth statements which were never said and then argue against those statements.
Before you said, "saving oneself, by oneself" and not you are saying "works of faith come within oneself."
What you are doing is taking my contention of "obedience to God as being mandatory" and twisting it into "doing something separate from God." Like many in the church I communicate with you cannot perceive what I am saying at all.
I was speaking with a pastor last week and he was so very blind. I said to him that the Romans Wretch was "carnal and sold under sin" and thus was not "set free indeed" and that the road to being set free indeed "was being crucified with Christ through godly sorrow and repentance." This pastor would continually quote Galatians and say that I was preaching "salvation by the works of the law." He simply could not make the distinction in his mind between "obeying God from the heart" and "keeping a set of rules and regulations outwardly."
It appears you and him have much in commmon. The strong delusion of today so pervades the mind that any mention of "obedience being necessary" is automatically interpreted as "saving yourself apart from God."
Here are a few scripturers...
Joh 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
How many men have been provided with the light of God? EVERYONE.
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
How many men have had the grace of God appear to them? EVERYONE.
Does God FORCE people to obey Him? NO! We choose to either to yield to God's instruction or we choose to reject God's instruction.
YIELDING = OBEDIENCE.
Noah CHOSE to yield to God's instruction by building the ark. He was saved because he CHOSE to do so. Was he glorifying in himself? Was he saving himself by himself? No way. He was simply DOING what GOd told Him to do and by doing that he wrought salvation for his household. That is what the Bible plainly teaches and the Bible uses Noah as an EXAMPLE for us.
Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Righteousness is by faith. Abraham was counted as righteous before God. Why? Because Abraham BELIEVED God and OBEYED God. Abraham's faith was an active and obedient working faith, which means it was REAL FAITH.
Abraham Obeyed.
Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Abraham WALKED IN THE STEPS of faith.
Rom 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. Read carefully that above verse. Those who are the true son's of Abraham WALK IN THE STEPS of faith. That is because faith is not passive. Faith is active and embodies our entire being. Faith is a deep seated conviction whereby we are totally convinced that what God says is true and we are also in agreement with God, thus we act in accordance with such a belief and are DOERS of the word.
That is what they don't teach in the church system. The church system has redefined faith to be simple "trust." They teach a salvation where all you do is "trust" in the "finished work of Jesus Christ." They will teach that if you do that then you are "declared saved apart from anything you do." The doing is then subsequent and disconnected from salvation.
This satanic teaching thus twists the blood of Jesus Christ into a cloak for ongoing rebellion. Those who buy into this system never truly repent, they never die with Christ, they never crucify their old man with his passions and desires in repentance because they are taught that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO because IT IS NOT OF WORKS. Thus Satan devours multitudes of professing Christian's who THINK they are saved yet REMAIN WORKERS OF INIQUITY.
MANY people are going to be rejected by Jesus Christ because they fell for this delusion. Obedience is absolutely mandatory for salvation. It is through obedience that one is a WORKER TOGETHER with God. That means one cooperates with God, God works within an individual to "will and to do of His good pleasure" and the believer "puts it into practice." That is why faith purifies the heart (Act 15:9) and why obedience through the Spirit purifies the soul (1Pet 1:21).
Remove that dynamic from the Gospel and there is no heart purity. Without holiness no-one will see the Lord. Holiness is wrought through obeying God from the heart. That is why the Bible says "obedience unto righteousness" and that God is the AUTHOR of salvation of those whom obey Him.
It is a very simple message. It is the doctrine according to godliness. Jesus came to teach men to forsake their rebellion and turn back to God in humble obedience. If sinners do that then they will be saved. If they do not they will perish.
Before you said, "saving oneself, by oneself" and not you are saying "works of faith come within oneself."
What you are doing is taking my contention of "obedience to God as being mandatory" and twisting it into "doing something separate from God." Like many in the church I communicate with you cannot perceive what I am saying at all.
I was speaking with a pastor last week and he was so very blind. I said to him that the Romans Wretch was "carnal and sold under sin" and thus was not "set free indeed" and that the road to being set free indeed "was being crucified with Christ through godly sorrow and repentance." This pastor would continually quote Galatians and say that I was preaching "salvation by the works of the law." He simply could not make the distinction in his mind between "obeying God from the heart" and "keeping a set of rules and regulations outwardly."
It appears you and him have much in commmon. The strong delusion of today so pervades the mind that any mention of "obedience being necessary" is automatically interpreted as "saving yourself apart from God."
Here are a few scripturers...
Joh 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
How many men have been provided with the light of God? EVERYONE.
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
How many men have had the grace of God appear to them? EVERYONE.
Does God FORCE people to obey Him? NO! We choose to either to yield to God's instruction or we choose to reject God's instruction.
YIELDING = OBEDIENCE.
Noah CHOSE to yield to God's instruction by building the ark. He was saved because he CHOSE to do so. Was he glorifying in himself? Was he saving himself by himself? No way. He was simply DOING what GOd told Him to do and by doing that he wrought salvation for his household. That is what the Bible plainly teaches and the Bible uses Noah as an EXAMPLE for us.
Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Righteousness is by faith. Abraham was counted as righteous before God. Why? Because Abraham BELIEVED God and OBEYED God. Abraham's faith was an active and obedient working faith, which means it was REAL FAITH.
Abraham Obeyed.
Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Abraham WALKED IN THE STEPS of faith.
Rom 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. Read carefully that above verse. Those who are the true son's of Abraham WALK IN THE STEPS of faith. That is because faith is not passive. Faith is active and embodies our entire being. Faith is a deep seated conviction whereby we are totally convinced that what God says is true and we are also in agreement with God, thus we act in accordance with such a belief and are DOERS of the word.
That is what they don't teach in the church system. The church system has redefined faith to be simple "trust." They teach a salvation where all you do is "trust" in the "finished work of Jesus Christ." They will teach that if you do that then you are "declared saved apart from anything you do." The doing is then subsequent and disconnected from salvation.
This satanic teaching thus twists the blood of Jesus Christ into a cloak for ongoing rebellion. Those who buy into this system never truly repent, they never die with Christ, they never crucify their old man with his passions and desires in repentance because they are taught that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO because IT IS NOT OF WORKS. Thus Satan devours multitudes of professing Christian's who THINK they are saved yet REMAIN WORKERS OF INIQUITY.
MANY people are going to be rejected by Jesus Christ because they fell for this delusion. Obedience is absolutely mandatory for salvation. It is through obedience that one is a WORKER TOGETHER with God. That means one cooperates with God, God works within an individual to "will and to do of His good pleasure" and the believer "puts it into practice." That is why faith purifies the heart (Act 15:9) and why obedience through the Spirit purifies the soul (1Pet 1:21).
Remove that dynamic from the Gospel and there is no heart purity. Without holiness no-one will see the Lord. Holiness is wrought through obeying God from the heart. That is why the Bible says "obedience unto righteousness" and that God is the AUTHOR of salvation of those whom obey Him.
It is a very simple message. It is the doctrine according to godliness. Jesus came to teach men to forsake their rebellion and turn back to God in humble obedience. If sinners do that then they will be saved. If they do not they will perish.
Regarding fruits of the Spirit...
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Those who HAVE crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts and WALK after the Spirit will exhibit the fruits of the Spirit in their lives. The fruits of the Spirit are the FRUIT that a good tree produces.
Grace teaches us how to live (Tit 2:11-12) and we yield to it through an obedient faith (Rom 1:5, 2Cor 6:1) having repented and forsaken all known rebellion (2Cor:7:10-11, Jam 1:21-22) and the result of that dynamic is heart purity (Act 15:9, 1Pet 1:22).
It is through abiding in Jesus Christ (which means building our house upon the rock through yielding to His Spirit) that we produce good fruit (Joh 15:4-5).
Do it not and perish in corruption.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Those who HAVE crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts and WALK after the Spirit will exhibit the fruits of the Spirit in their lives. The fruits of the Spirit are the FRUIT that a good tree produces.
Grace teaches us how to live (Tit 2:11-12) and we yield to it through an obedient faith (Rom 1:5, 2Cor 6:1) having repented and forsaken all known rebellion (2Cor:7:10-11, Jam 1:21-22) and the result of that dynamic is heart purity (Act 15:9, 1Pet 1:22).
It is through abiding in Jesus Christ (which means building our house upon the rock through yielding to His Spirit) that we produce good fruit (Joh 15:4-5).
Do it not and perish in corruption.
Your so outward Skinski.
Your whole premise is one of outward works.
You say things like - "if sinners do that(obey), then they will be saved. If not they will perish."
What is faith?
And what is obedience?
You say to obey is to have faith.
I say you put the wrong thing first.
Because if obedience means you have faith,
then the faith is in the obedience.
You will not understand because I speak of love and a relationship.
I don't tie my faith to obedience.
I have faith in the finished perfect work of Jesus.
It is this perfect Savior that constrains me to want to follow Him.
It is this relationship through the Holy Spirit that ever turns my mind toward Him.
My faith is not in obedience.
My faith is in the risen Lord who bought me.
His perfect Spirit ever abides on me(as other believers).
When I fall he chastises me with His rod of correction.
As I walk throughout the day He leads me by His staff.
He restores my soul as a shepherd, and he prunes me as a husbandman.
I speak of something much deeper than the laws, codes, rules, and regulations of a schoolmaster;
I'm in a relationship. And His love ever abides on me.
As His love constrains all true believers from acting out their carnal passions.
I just think you are heavily bent toward the fences of legalisms, which separate us
from the love of God.
Your whole premise is one of outward works.
You say things like - "if sinners do that(obey), then they will be saved. If not they will perish."
What is faith?
And what is obedience?
You say to obey is to have faith.
I say you put the wrong thing first.
Because if obedience means you have faith,
then the faith is in the obedience.
You will not understand because I speak of love and a relationship.
I don't tie my faith to obedience.
I have faith in the finished perfect work of Jesus.
It is this perfect Savior that constrains me to want to follow Him.
It is this relationship through the Holy Spirit that ever turns my mind toward Him.
My faith is not in obedience.
My faith is in the risen Lord who bought me.
His perfect Spirit ever abides on me(as other believers).
When I fall he chastises me with His rod of correction.
As I walk throughout the day He leads me by His staff.
He restores my soul as a shepherd, and he prunes me as a husbandman.
I speak of something much deeper than the laws, codes, rules, and regulations of a schoolmaster;
I'm in a relationship. And His love ever abides on me.
As His love constrains all true believers from acting out their carnal passions.
I just think you are heavily bent toward the fences of legalisms, which separate us
from the love of God.