Saved by Law?

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zone

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Amen brother.

Leviticus 19:18 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
Deuteronomy 6:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Good stuff man! Good stuff!
and you sin too.
in word thought and deed.

much.

purleeze.

you guys denegrate the Law so you can elevate yourselves.
it's embarrassing.
for you.
 
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I didn't read your entire post (I have a short attention span), but I think we are on the same page. When you sin, bad things start happening. It is better not to sin.[/QUOTE

Hi Res; well I don't want to get into the sin debate lol. How can I possibly disagree with that and be Christian?


My stand on it though is; I believe that spiritual sin, the sins that come out of ones mouth; are far greater sins than the ones that we put into our mouths; as it seems to me that we pretty much pay the price as we go for the physical ones, poor health.

Didn't know about your attention span problem; I'll try to be short and to the point for you.:)
 
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CRUCIFIEDWITHCHRIST

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#63
who are you kidding?
you don't love with perfect LOVE.

there was only ONE who did that.
it ain't you.

you sin, and you sin much.
Zone if anybody is walking right they cannot boast because it is only because the grace and mercy of God, having themselves receiving the gift of God. If anybody is truly in the kingdom you know whats going on in their life? the will of God. Jesus talks about freeing us from sin keeping us from all the evil. The result of someone in the kingdom having eaten Jesus is perfection. Perfection being that there is totally agreement going in our heart with the word, with Jesus, having being purged from all unrighteousness .Here is a good example Zone and in reading this dear sister one can know that there was total agreement between the son and the father. When we receive Jesus we will walk like him and Jesus will get all the glory.[h=1]John 6:57. [/h][h=2]As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

Jesus walked without sin, no guile in his mouth. He came to bring us his nature. So he can do the works through us. Now just cause a person may not be experiencing this, that does not mean its not available. A person has to get all the unbelief out there heart that God wont do this miracle in our lives Zone. He is that good. A good tree CANNOT bear evil fruit.

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CRUCIFIEDWITHCHRIST

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Zone I agree that if God permit there can be people that want to seem high in mighty thinking they are something , they deceive themselves there is none good but God. Jesus wants to do everything for us . He does not want our help. He is almighty, having all the might. If you believe we will always sin then your not believing what the result of the lord's will is for our lives. An escape from all the evil. If we cant love with perfect love then God would be telling us something we cant do. God cannot lie. If someone is still sinning claiming and professing they have Jesus who is sinning in them ,is it Jesus? Of course not. There in no darkness in Jesus . We are to walk in the light as he is in the light. He has made the way. If one is still making provision for the flesh they don't see Jesus yet. Our eye has to become single on Jesus then we will be full of light , just has he has commanded us to be.
 
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richie_2uk

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God does not want us to work for Him. So there for he don't want to do everything for us either. He wants us to work WITH him. according to his will.
 
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CRUCIFIEDWITHCHRIST

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There is nothing good that dwells within a man. The lord is to be worshipped in truth and spirit.That is why we must receive total death to self.We are to CAST ALL OUR CARE ON HIM. A person is to be careful for nothing fully trusting in him. It is God's responsibility to keep us. Not ours. A person has to have all their strength expired. What if we have enough strength to have care , fear , unbelief? Then it shows us we have not come to the place of total surrender. Our lives have to be taken from us,all of it. The good news is it is his good pleasure to do it all for the man.

12What shall I render to the LORD for all his benefits toward me? 13I will take the cup of salvation, and call on the name of the LORD.
 
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Jude 1:3-7 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
 
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Kerry

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All this law stuff. Wanka wanka wanka. Why did people under law hope for a redeemer? why, I say why. Because they could not no matter what, keep the high standard of God. Do you know that before law, God required your firstborn to be sacrificed. Yet He would take a lamb or turtle dove in his place. Why? because it was a symbol of Christ to come. Men in the OT were justified by their faith in the redeemer to come. Displayed by sacrificing a lamb. A 5 year old can understand the Gospel, we adults apply way to much stuff to it. Jesus said suffer not the little children for such is the Kingdom Of God. Why did He say that? because children are the most faithful beings on Earth. They don't worry about where their next meal is coming from. They don't worry about where they will stay. They don't care about what they will wear tomorrow. They have complete and total faith. The faith that I long to have. I can only have it by the cross of Christ and nothing else. Books have been written. Scholars have debated. Churches have split. Over what a 4 year old can understand. How dumb are we?