Saved sinners???

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Ramon

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please show me the text that says walking in the Spirit 24/7 is the trick.

there are christians in every stage of their sanctification.
some are doing really well, others are practising sin.

which ones are saved?
No one who practices sin will enter into life.

May Jesus bless you.
 

zone

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My sin was bitterness and resentment. It was a trespass because the Lord has shown me more. The more the Lord shows you the more he holds you accountable of. I am not accountable to you. But I am accountable of my attitude towards you. You may resent me, but I cannot resent you.

I will not use this thread to talk about prophets.

May Jesus bless you.
alright.
so why were you bitter and resentful Ramon?

if we're not accountable to each other, why are you the sin cop?
 
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Any Christian that says they are still sinners is either not truly saved or mis-guided. Anyone, Christian or not, that tells other believers that they are still sinners is the mouth piece of Satan.
I don’t think any of us is perfect.
 

zone

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No one who practices sin will enter into life.

May Jesus bless you.
so, the christian preacher who made news the other day, had been ministering to his flock for 35 years, and eventually was hospitalized with liver disease.

then it came out he'd been a closet drinker all those years. desperately sick, ashamed to seek help, he had hidden it.

he was crying and sorrowful from his hospital room and received visits from his pastor friends.

is that man headed for hell Ramon?

here's paul 7 chapters in to Romans:

Romans 7:24
What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?

is his cry in the present tense, or past tense?
 
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Ramon

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alright.
so why were you bitter and resentful Ramon?

if we're not accountable to each other, why are you the sin cop?
Certainly am not bitter and resentful. I was though. But now it is all gone. Just like that. He renewed in me the Right Spirit!

The issue is that you believe that all of the gifts have ceased.

So if the Lord said, ''Go and tell the people....'' You would not believe even if Jesus came himself. So who will you believe? But just because you don't believe does not change the Truth.

No one is accountable to me, and I am not accountable to any man. But I am accountable about how I treat others as we all are. Both you and I are going to be judged by Jesus. If I say repent, and there is need for repentance, and one repents and comes into the kingdom, neither I nor you nor the person who repented gets the glory. But God gets the glory because it is his Spirit that leads one to the Truth, and the Truth makes them free.

You want me to glory in myself. But I reject that. I will glory in what the Lord has done. Judge me, but you cannot condemn me. We all have one judge.

May Jesus bless you.
 

zone

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Certainly am not bitter and resentful. I was though. But now it is all gone. Just like that. He renewed in me the Right Spirit!

The issue is that you believe that all of the gifts have ceased. .
so where do you get off being bitter and resentful over that?
if they haven't ceased, show in scripture.

you were bitter and resentful because it doesn't match your preferences.

its not my fault if you don't understand the Bible Ramon.

So if the Lord said, ''Go and tell the people....'' You would not believe even if Jesus came himself. .
there you go again.
just who do you think you are Ramon?

you are deceived by the charismatic movement and you want to believe you have special powers and gifts that's YOUR PROBLEM. not mine.

No one is accountable to me, and I am not accountable to any man. But I am accountable about how I treat others as we all are. Both you and I are going to be judged by Jesus. If I say repent, and there is need for repentance, and one repents and comes into the kingdom, neither I nor you nor the person who repented gets the glory. But God gets the glory because it is his Spirit that leads one to the Truth, and the Truth makes them free.

You want me to glory in myself. But I reject that. I will glory in what the Lord has done. Judge me, but you cannot condemn me. We all have one judge.

May Jesus bless you.
alright.
i'm calling you to repentence Ramon:

for pride
poor understanding of Corinthians
illegal use of The Law
preaching fear

no need to reply, its not me you answer to, its Jesus.
i'm just being the sin cop. if you repent that's great if not, it's not about you, is it.
 
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Ramon

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so where do you get off being bitter and resentful over that?
if they haven't ceased, show in scripture.

you were bitter and resentful because it doesn't match your preferences.

its not my fault if you don't understand the Bible Ramon.



there you go again.
just who do you think you are Ramon?

you are deceived by the charismatic movement and you want to believe you have special powers and gifts that's YOUR PROBLEM. not mine.



alright.
i'm calling you to repentence Ramon:

for pride
poor understanding of Corinthians
illegal use of The Law
preaching fear

no need to reply, its not me you answer to, its Jesus.
i'm just being the sin cop. if you repent that's great if not, it's not about you, is it.
In Jesus Christ there is no fear of judgement, but those who are in sin there is fear and great trembling. To those who are redeemed hell does not scare them at all. But to those who are perishing they do not know what to hope for.

Again, you can judge however you feel. But then, who will judge that? You or me? I say neither. But Jesus Christ will indeed, even his words will. As condemnation does not come out of words or doctrines, but out of the heart. And the mouth speaks the abundance of the heart.

May Jesus bless you.
 

zone

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In Jesus Christ there is no fear of judgement, but those who are in sin there is fear and great trembling. To those who are redeemed hell does not scare them at all. But to those who are perishing they do not know what to hope for.

Again, you can judge however you feel. But then, who will judge that? You or me? I say neither. But Jesus Christ will indeed, even his words will. As condemnation does not come out of words or doctrines, but out of the heart. And the mouth speaks the abundance of the heart.

May Jesus bless you.
yes and there's a lot that comes out of your heart dear friend. PRIDE.

just mix The Law with The Gospel Ramon.
not doing so is wrongly handling the Word.

let The Holy Spirit do His job.
love zone.
 
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Deadflesh

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please show me the text that says walking in the Spirit 24/7 is the trick.

there are christians in every stage of their sanctification.
some are doing really well, others are practising sin.

which ones are saved?

Ok FIRST of all...

"No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." 1 John 3:9


A CHRISTIAN canot Prictice Sin. Beacasue A Chrsitan is BORN again. of the SPIRIT of GOD.

And Secondly:

"show me the text that says walking in the Spirit 24/7 is the trick"

Galatians 5:13-16
For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.

16But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh



That is PRECICE.

IF, we WALK by(or in) the SPirit, we WIL NOT carry out the desires of the Flesh(sin)



 
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Tobby17

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yes and there's a lot that comes out of your heart dear friend. PRIDE.

just mix The Law with The Gospel Ramon.
not doing so is wrongly handling the Word.

let The Holy Spirit do His job.
love zone.
Zone, i made a thread for you in bible discussion, i think you should check it out :)
 

zone

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Ok FIRST of all...

"No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." 1 John 3:9


A CHRISTIAN canot Prictice Sin. Beacasue A Chrsitan is BORN again. of the SPIRIT of GOD.

And Secondly:

"show me the text that says walking in the Spirit 24/7 is the trick"

Galatians 5:13-16
For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.

16But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh

That is PRECICE.

IF, we WALK by(or in) the SPirit, we WIL NOT carry out the desires of the Flesh(sin)

ok.
at any time in your Christian life have you practised sin?
 
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unclefester

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yes and there's a lot that comes out of your heart dear friend. PRIDE.

love zone.
Zone is not alone in this perception of your posts Ramon. Quite frankly, they reek of pride. Do with this as you will. God bless.
 
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Tobby17

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yes and there's a lot that comes out of your heart dear friend. PRIDE.

just mix The Law with The Gospel Ramon.
not doing so is wrongly handling the Word.

let The Holy Spirit do His job.
love zone.
Zone, i made a thread for you in bible discussion, i think you should check it out :). it's Saved sinners 2
 
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Ramon

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ok.
at any time in your Christian life have you practised sin?
Nope. Just as i would not encourage a Christian to practice the occult.

May Jesus bless you.
 

zone

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Nope. Just as i would not encourage a Christian to practice the occult.

May Jesus bless you.
alright Ramon.

how long have you been a Christian?
 

zone

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Zone, i made a thread for you in bible discussion, i think you should check it out :). it's Saved sinners 2
thanks Tobby.
i'm over there now.
i need you to answer the question: when did you last sin?
 
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Tobby17

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Zone is not alone in this perception of your posts Ramon. Quite frankly, they reek of pride. Do with this as you will. God bless.
Ramon has no pride, he says the truth.. But you both are simply too blinded in your own pride to admit it!