Secret Societies.. Are they real???

[Scribe]

If any of these Theories were true the best friend of these groups would be the conspiracy theorists.
It reminds me of an episode of The Office. Michael spread a rumor he later regret sharing. So to hide the one true rumor he fabricated numerous others. The truth was hidden among the various falsehoods.
A conspiracy theorist is more likely to be Part of the conspiracy than exposing it. Or to be the blind puppet. Either way it's damaging and amounts to nothing more than boy crying wolf.

hmmm...

 

[SoulWeaver]

Between 1978 and 1982 I became interested in the same question. My then research (without Internet) showed that there is a concerted effort by some of the richest and powerful people on earth to set a social and economic order to suit them. This plan embraces the following:

• Reduce the earth's population by ⅔. The mechanism for this is by Euthanasia, Abortion, Famine and Birth-Control
• The Elite would rule sovereignly under seeming democracy
• The Elite would have a large police/military to enforce their sovereignty
• The social system would be Feudal. That is, the common man would own no land but be tenants to produce the needs of the Elite
• A cashless economy. The Elite would trade in gold and the rest would trade their services for their need
• Religion and marriage would be removed
• The only Church allowed would be the Wicca - the revering of nature
• Already in the Middle ages this conspiracy existed and seems to be lead by the Rothschild Family of bankers
• The breeding ground for this conspiracy was, and is, the Freemason Lodges at the higher levels (Scottish Rite 30 to 33rd degrees)
• The Roman Catholic Church is the most powerful single player. Politics is made from the pulpit
• The leading organization for demolishing economies is The Club of Rome

Already in the 1700's a six point plan was devised to control the people

1. Control money by National Reserve Banks owned by private people
2. Control Governments by lending them money
3. Control the Press by ownership and by central news service (like Reuters or UPI)
4. Control education by Government control and syllabuses (the same government of point #2)
5. Control energy either by straight ownership (Rockefellers), or by owning the governments
6. Control food by owning the stock exchange and later by genetic manipulation (seed from a laboratory not a farmer)

The government policies are controlled by Non Government "Think Tanks" like the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.

By Nixon's rule the obstacle of the gold standard was finally removed. Of the six points above, only point #6, food, is not fully controlled. The only good news is that the multiplicity of organizations and personal ambitions and disputes sometimes cause them to trip over their own feet. This Elite is terrified of the people. If the 95% get wind of this conspiracy and get mad, they cannot be stopped. That is why control of the media is essential.

They planned it up for about a million years forward, and here I am, don't even know what I'm going to cook this day...

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

They planned it up for about a million years forward, and here I am, don't even know what I'm going to cook this day...

Incredible

I was invited to join the Illuminate and also another organization (which I will not mention here). We were explained to what the "membership" will entail and it didn't sound sinister. I never acted further on this but in the end I do believe there are people manipulating world event to provide themselves with some advantage.

 

[Blik]

This entire post can be summed up with the statement that this is how the end times we are told of is happening. There is absolutely nothing we can do about it except to know the end result of all the enemy is doing, and have faith in the Lord.

I don't think we are told precisely how this will all end. The Jews knew Christ was coming, they were told but all their guessing about just how God would do it was wrong. Same thing with us today.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Do you believe that there are secret groups of rich and powerful people who have a plan for the world they are trying to fulfill?

Of course they are real. But hiding in plain sight. Their manifestos, declarations and agendas give them away. But it's a big subject.

 

[Nehemiah6]

If any of these Theories were true the best friend of these groups would be the conspiracy theorists.

So you are claiming that there are no conspiracies. They are all "theories". Which means that you yourself could be one the conspirators.

 

[Scribe]

They planned it up for about a million years forward, and here I am, don't even know what I'm going to cook this day...

Carnitas!!!

FOR THE CARNITAS

• 
  
• 2 1/2 pounds pork shoulder (also known as ‘pork butt’)
• 1 tablespoon lime juice
• 2 teaspoons coarse sea salt
• 2 teaspoons ground cumin
• 1 teaspoon chili powder
• 1 teaspoon garlic powder
• 1 teaspoon dried oregano
• 1 teaspoon onion powder
• 1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
• 1 cup broth (chicken, beef or vegetable) *for Instant Pot cooking method only*

INSTRUCTIONS
SLOW COOKER INSTRUCTIONS

• Cut the pork shoulder into large 4-inch chunks. Place in the slow cooker.
• Add the lime juice, salt, ground cumin, chili powder, garlic powder, dried oregano, onion powder and black pepper. Mix thoroughly to coat the meat with all the seasonings.
• Cover and cook on high for 4 hours, or on low for 7-8 hours. When tender, shred the meat by pulling it apart with two forks.

 

[Jackson123]

Something that may interest you, and perhaps give you a deeper level of understanding is that Hitler, Moussalini, and Stalin were all Roman Catholic and took their orders from Rome. The Vatican is complete with all manner of Occult symbolism, including the Egyptian obelesk. Just prior to the C-19 "outbreak", which is a subject all to itself, the Vatican set up the image of the idol of Molech, the very abomination by which children were sacrificed via being "made to pass through the fire". Furthermore, it is no secret anymore that the Vatican also keeps an image of the idol of Lucifer in the basement, as well as singing praises, in Latin of course, to Lucifer, whom they blasphemously call their father, and the father of their false Jesus. Evidence of what I just shared can be found on the Internet using Google search, as well as YouTube search.

Also, Freemasonry is self defined as being the ancient religion of blending religions. Pope Frances, who's real name is Jeorge and one sicko that has been photographed of kissing babies on the lips, is head of C.O.E.X.I.S.T., and has publicly declared that all religions worship the same god, and there are photos and videos of him making this and other similar declarations, even while holding the image of the idol of Buddha in his hands. There is so much we can elaborate on here, but we can trust that even the King James Translators were absolutely correct in identifying the Roman Catholic Church as the Great Whore of Babylon, and Foxe's Book of Martyrs bears record of the great number of Saints that Rome has murdered.

Yep, a lot of evident, Vatican behind holocaust

Vatican Bank faces S.F. lawsuit over looted Nazi gold
https://www.jweekly.com/2000/02/04/vatican-bank-faces-s-f-lawsuit-over-looted-nazi-gold/

This is one of the clue, why Nazi stolen gold in the bank of Vatican?

 

[oldethennew]

when you feel/know The Truth behind the lies, don't be afraid to express your 'gut-feelings', -
because Jesus will protect AND strengthen you to ALWAYS BE 'strong and courageous beyond belief'...

 

[J-T]

Yep, a lot of evident, Vatican behind holocaust

Vatican Bank faces S.F. lawsuit over looted Nazi gold
https://www.jweekly.com/2000/02/04/vatican-bank-faces-s-f-lawsuit-over-looted-nazi-gold/

This is one of the clue, why Nazi stolen gold in the bank of Vatican?

Thanks for sharing the link to this story. I was not aware of this lawsuit against the Vatican. If they obviously know where the gold went to, I'd say that's a great clue in addition to the facts of history relating to the Vatican, Pope, and Hitler.

 

[Blain]

Between 1978 and 1982 I became interested in the same question. My then research (without Internet) showed that there is a concerted effort by some of the richest and powerful people on earth to set a social and economic order to suit them. This plan embraces the following:

• Reduce the earth's population by ⅔. The mechanism for this is by Euthanasia, Abortion, Famine and Birth-Control
• The Elite would rule sovereignly under seeming democracy
• The Elite would have a large police/military to enforce their sovereignty
• The social system would be Feudal. That is, the common man would own no land but be tenants to produce the needs of the Elite
• A cashless economy. The Elite would trade in gold and the rest would trade their services for their need
• Religion and marriage would be removed
• The only Church allowed would be the Wicca - the revering of nature
• Already in the Middle ages this conspiracy existed and seems to be lead by the Rothschild Family of bankers
• The breeding ground for this conspiracy was, and is, the Freemason Lodges at the higher levels (Scottish Rite 30 to 33rd degrees)
• The Roman Catholic Church is the most powerful single player. Politics is made from the pulpit
• The leading organization for demolishing economies is The Club of Rome

Already in the 1700's a six point plan was devised to control the people

1. Control money by National Reserve Banks owned by private people
2. Control Governments by lending them money
3. Control the Press by ownership and by central news service (like Reuters or UPI)
4. Control education by Government control and syllabuses (the same government of point #2)
5. Control energy either by straight ownership (Rockefellers), or by owning the governments
6. Control food by owning the stock exchange and later by genetic manipulation (seed from a laboratory not a farmer)

The government policies are controlled by Non Government "Think Tanks" like the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.

By Nixon's rule the obstacle of the gold standard was finally removed. Of the six points above, only point #6, food, is not fully controlled. The only good news is that the multiplicity of organizations and personal ambitions and disputes sometimes cause them to trip over their own feet. This Elite is terrified of the people. If the 95% get wind of this conspiracy and get mad, they cannot be stopped. That is why control of the media is essential.

Finally, whether people believe in a conspiracy on this scale or not, we Christians know four things:

1. The age ends in 10 powerful kings giving all authority to a despotic king - the Beast
2. This Beast will exercise sovereign rule over the whole earth
3. Food and Services will only be had by a Mark of allegiance to this Beast
4. There are Principalities and Powers under the rule of "The Prince of this World"

I am not fully up to date with developements as I stopped this research to study the Bible.

You have done an amazing job in your research and made the same conclusions I did, although I didn't fully understand the extent of their grimey hands until I saw a video by Robert breaker one of the best teachers on bible prophecy I have seen apparently this virus was also on the list of things above and what is worse is that the vaccine is going to be the thing that creates a cashless system you will not be able to by or sell without it I didn't post the video only because I know people don't like watching long videos but wow was I stunned

 

[Corban]

You have done an amazing job in your research and made the same conclusions I did, although I didn't fully understand the extent of their grimey hands until I saw a video by Robert breaker one of the best teachers on bible prophecy I have seen apparently this virus was also on the list of things above and what is worse is that the vaccine is going to be the thing that creates a cashless system you will not be able to by or sell without it I didn't post the video only because I know people don't like watching long videos but wow was I stunned

As you probably noted, I did not collect the sensationalist books that many authors write to sell their books. I tried to stick to serious works like "Occult Theocracy" by Lady Queensborough, "The Three Political Systems" and "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison, and then collected the publications of the Conspirators themselves like "Limits to Growth" by the Club of Rome and an array of Free Masonic publications like Morals and Dogma. I made a slide show (those were the days) of various documents and excerpts and accepted invitations from various Churches to give lectures on it. And guess what? The congregations just left the lecture frightened and in denial. I soon gave up the idea and rather taught the Bible. At least it gives us hope.

If we lay out just a fifth of the plans that Satan's minions have for us, it is very frightening. And, on top of it I received indirect threats from a Mason or two. It would seem that the initiation into 33rd degree Scottish Rite, the sixth degree of the Druids and a Jesuit are all the same. Churchill was a Druid. The Occult and Elitism are inextricably bound together.

I haven't kept up to date. But I'm glad I did the research. I used to collect the charts of who is who in the Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, but not any more. I kinda know what to look for when political and economic events happen, but the Bible is so much more edifying.

God bless in your quest.

 

[Blain]

As you probably noted, I did not collect the sensationalist books that many authors write to sell their books. I tried to stick to serious works like "Occult Theocracy" by Lady Queensborough, "The Three Political Systems" and "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison, and then collected the publications of the Conspirators themselves like "Limits to Growth" by the Club of Rome and an array of Free Masonic publications like Morals and Dogma. I made a slide show (those were the days) of various documents and excerpts and accepted invitations from various Churches to give lectures on it. And guess what? The congregations just left the lecture frightened and in denial. I soon gave up the idea and rather taught the Bible. At least it gives us hope.

If we lay out just a fifth of the plans that Satan's minions have for us, it is very frightening. And, on top of it I received indirect threats from a Mason or two. It would seem that the initiation into 33rd degree Scottish Rite, the sixth degree of the Druids and a Jesuit are all the same. Churchill was a Druid. The Occult and Elitism are inextricably bound together.

I haven't kept up to date. But I'm glad I did the research. I used to collect the charts of who is who in the Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, but not any more. I kinda know what to look for when political and economic events happen, but the Bible is so much more edifying.

God bless in your quest.

Yeah I am not surprised everyone left like that, the truth is not usually accepted and it is terrifying especially when you realize just how deeply the enemy has rooted himself into our world.
I wish I could read those books of yours but even if I had them until my eyes are fully healed I cannot read normal print but when they are better I would be very interested in reading them.

We are in a war against the devil and his minions and every good war cheif knows that to win victory you have to know your enemy you have to study their tactics their patterns their way of thinking and doing things. But we also have to make sure that we are not consumed by it either, believe me I know first hand how bad things can become mentally from going to deep into the rabbit without remembering moderation, it is good to not be ignorant and especially if you study bible prophecy these so called conspiracies actually end up connecting quite a lot on the prophetic time line even all the back to before the united states was established but if we forget to also fill ouiir cup with his word and spending our time and thoughts mainly on him we can become burned out and lose sight of what is important.

 

[J-T]

Incredible

I was invited to join the Illuminate and also another organization (which I will not mention here). We were explained to what the "membership" will entail and it didn't sound sinister. I never acted further on this but in the end I do believe there are people manipulating world event to provide themselves with some advantage.

They're not going to just come out in the open and say, "Oh yeah, we worship the Devil! & Want you to join!" They wouldn't be doing their job to seduce and deceive if they did that.

If you were to hang out with me, I would introduce you to a few Illuminati and Masonic members that will tell you who they worship, and yep, it's the Devil, a.k.a. Lucifer a.k.a. Satan.

What I have shared in this post should be cause for any Believer to sound the warning alarm. We have yet to even touch on the evil things that they do in secret.

 

[Corban]

Yeah I am not surprised everyone left like that, the truth is not usually accepted and it is terrifying especially when you realize just how deeply the enemy has rooted himself into our world.
I wish I could read those books of yours but even if I had them until my eyes are fully healed I cannot read normal print but when they are better I would be very interested in reading them.

We are in a war against the devil and his minions and every good war cheif knows that to win victory you have to know your enemy you have to study their tactics their patterns their way of thinking and doing things. But we also have to make sure that we are not consumed by it either, believe me I know first hand how bad things can become mentally from going to deep into the rabbit without remembering moderation, it is good to not be ignorant and especially if you study bible prophecy these so called conspiracies actually end up connecting quite a lot on the prophetic time line even all the back to before the united states was established but if we forget to also fill ouiir cup with his word and spending our time and thoughts mainly on him we can become burned out and lose sight of what is important.

May the Lord touch your eyes and heal them.

God bless.

 

[Blain]

May the Lord touch your eyes and heal them.

God bless.

You and me both my friend, even so it is not these eyes I want see with if I could have any pair of eyes it would be his.

 

[Jackson123]

Thanks for sharing the link to this story. I was not aware of this lawsuit against the Vatican. If they obviously know where the gold went to, I'd say that's a great clue in addition to the facts of history relating to the Vatican, Pope, and Hitler.

You welcome, a lot of article point out Vatican behind secret society

 

[Blain]

Awww, that is your choice, but I was hoping that you would say "yes" because this is a study that I enjoy having with other Christians, as well as with non-Christians in hopes of winning some to Jesus Christ for salvation. But since this is the Bible Study Forum, and if the Administrators would approve, we (myself and anyone else that would like to join) can have the study here anyway, and you are welcome to jump back in at anytime if you should decide.

P.S. I forgot to include 1Timothy 4:1-2, 2Timothy 4:1-5, and 2Corinthians 11 in my last post.

How would you have this study? I assume skype or something? I am very limited as my pc does not have a built in camera or mic and reading is an issue for me if I do not have the font maxed out in size but nevertheless this is a bible study I would enjoy

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

How would you have this study? I assume skype or something? I am very limited as my pc does not have a built in camera or mic and reading is an issue for me if I do not have the font maxed out in size but nevertheless this is a bible study I would enjoy

Maybe JT could make a YouTube video and share it with us all

 

[Blain]

Maybe JT could make a YouTube video and share it with us all

I would watch it, how are the baggins doing btw?