Shocked and Appalled

[4runner]

if you didn't consider yourself one you'd have said that right off.
your earlier posts indicate you think you are one.

I would like to see this post???????

 

[zone]

I would like to see this post???????

I attend multiple fellowships. Do you dismiss the prophets???? Do you think we should remain silent while wolves infiltrate the Church?

Of course you do.

so...are you a prophet or not?

 

[4runner]

Originally Posted by 4runner

If you can find a post of mine where I made this claim then post it. Until then I tell you those that make such accusation are liars.

and then your follow-up here.

Originally Posted by 4runner

God's word opposes you
Ephesians 4
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

Yep quoting scripture that prove there are still Apostles, prophets, evangelist, pastors, and teachers in effect in the N.T. Church prove you think you are a prophets....lol....what a joke. I guess I think I am an apostle,pastor, evangelist, and teacher also huh????

You make yourself look really ridiculous with such ignorant rantings.

 

[4runner]

Originally Posted by 4runner

I attend multiple fellowships. Do you dismiss the prophets???? Do you think we should remain silent while wolves infiltrate the Church?

Of course you do.

so...are you a prophet or not?

WE, would include all true believers, not simply prophets. The prophets referred to in this post were the O.T. prophets.

 

[zone]

Yep quoting scripture that prove there are still Apostles, prophets, evangelist, pastors, and teachers in effect in the N.T. Church prove you think you are a prophets....lol....what a joke. I guess I think I am an apostle,pastor, evangelist, and teacher also huh????

You make yourself look really ridiculous with such ignorant rantings.

quoting that scripure proves there are apostles and prophets today?
you posted it to buttress your argument that there are prophets today.

are there?

 

[zone]

WE, would include all true believers, not simply prophets. The prophets referred to in this post were the O.T. prophets.

ok. fair enough (although in the context of your remark your explanation doesn't hold water)...but anyhow.
are there prophets today?

 

[4runner]

1) well i do pray and study, its the word that gives discernment
2) Not trying, I do love her with her flaws, who doesnt have flaws?
3) define wolf

If you are saying that becuase she doesnt believe in modern day apostles and prophets, as in they will have the same function and authority as the original ones. That makes her a wolf? Id say your a nuttty guy. You
would have to say that 99% of the church of all time were wolfs.

That is only in your false belief that that 99% of the churfch do not believe in the 5 fold ministry. The true Church believes God's word and therefore they believe in the 5 fold ministry every single one of them

In fact our most respected modern day apostle/prophet who said a prayer at the presidential inauguration
prayed in the name of zeus, baal, isis, and allah.

Rick Warren is no prophet. He is not even a christian

So consider me a wolf.

I do

 

[4runner]

ok. fair enough (although in the context of your remark your explanation doesn't hold water)...but anyhow.
are there prophets today?

Of course there are, unless you believes the church has come to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ

 

[4runner]

Exactly Nalu. But not surprisingly, he'll receive some amens. Division isn't always a bad thing. In matters pertaining to what he's preaching, I insist on it

You are right the truth always causes division

 

[zone]

The true Church believes God's word and therefore they believe in the 5 fold ministry every single one of them

re: prophets today:

Of course there are, unless you believes the church has come to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ

i'll come back to this tomorrow.

are you a prophet?

 

[Abiding]

What we don't need are a bunch of novices that think they know everything, claiming to have a gift for the church and coming into local assemblies condemning and accusing believers of sin and trying to rid the church of the wolves in sheep's clothing. If anyone like that came into my church with this air of supremacy and tried to do this to any of the believers in our fellowship, you would be removed immediately and be given a strong warning to never come back and try that again. That's called a 'spiritual boot'.............is that anything like a open handed slap in the mouth?.....jusssssssttttt kidddiiinnngggg.

there she is again....aww so cute

 

[Abiding]

meant the little one

 

[zone]

You are right the truth always causes division

Romans 16:17
I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

see you tomorrow.

 

[4runner]

We still have pastors but we don't have prophets?
What's the diff between a Pastor and a Prophet?

4runner, you and Zone have personal stuffs but Zone shouldn't carry it into the threads really . I think i agree with u on dis one... But then using the word Wolf directly on somebody makes u just as bad and is simply Judging. And by the way can we stop making threads to attack each other..

Calling a wolf a wolf is not as bad as being a wolf. Those that true love the sheep would do nothing else. Only a hireling that cares not for the sheep would remain silent when they see a wolf in their midst.

John 10
12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

Before the false accusations come, I am in no claiming to be a shepherd, much less ''The Shepherd''. However I am no hireling either, and when I see a wolf, I am going to cry ''wolf'' at the top of my lungs.

 

[4runner]

Romans 16:17
I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

see you tomorrow.

Exactly Zone, you teach doctrine contrary to Pauls, and people need to stay as far away from you as they can get. For you do not serve Jesus Christ but you own belly, and although you may deceive some with your fair speeches you will never deceive me.

18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

 

[Abiding]

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[zone]

Exactly Zone, you teach doctrine contrary to Pauls, and people need to stay as far away from you as they can get. For you do not serve Jesus Christ but you own belly, and although you may deceive some with your fair speeches you will never deceive me.

18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

like i said.
i'll come back to this tomorrow.
i know what Paul taught.

 

[Abiding]

That is only in your false belief that that 99% of the churfch do not believe in the 5 fold ministry. The true Church believes God's word and therefore they believe in the 5 fold ministry every single one of them
Rick Warren is no prophet. He is not even a christian

I do

I qualified my statement on prophet. And am sure you skipped through it. Plus i
never brought up the 5fold ministry. Your really quite hard to talk to.

 

[Abiding]

Originally Posted by 4runner
Not listening to a modern day prophet doesnt make you a wolf, it makes you unlearned in the word and hard hearted. What makes you a wolf is denying their existence.




abiding
This is not true that not listenning to a modern day prophet makes you hardhearted...haha..did a modern day
prophet tell you that?

Where did you get the idea, not listenning to a modern day prophet would make you unlearned in the word?
did a modern day prophet tell you that too? that was taken care of in 1John 2:27 and told to us by a Prophet,
a real prophet.



Asking again for more info on this statement.
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[4runner]

like i said.
i'll come back to this tomorrow.
i know what Paul taught.

Apparently not Ephesians 4:11, He taught there were still Apostles, and prophets, and in Romans in particular he taught one could be cut off. you believe neither of these truths