Shocked and Appalled

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Red33

Red33

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zone said:
so...are you a prophet or not?
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This '4runner', in seeking an office within the church, is far to lifted up in his heart to just seek to be a prophet. His aim and calling, as he goes from one assembly of believers to another, is the earmark of one who considers himself greater than a prophet. The way he has offered himself on this site with this superficial manufactured authority and how he presents what he understands about the scriptures in chiding believers and especially in relationship and identification with the apostle Paul, is a strong indication of his intentions and approbation with self appointed tendencies.

He dare not come right out and say until he has established himself among certain gullible brethren that would qualify and esteem his approbation for that office. He is a piece of work but is only a novice that is headed for a snare and a huge pitfall. Hopefully he will humble himself and fear God and stop living in self indulgent illusions that have captured his mind and the imaginations of his heart. He will probably deny and condemn this post but that would only be an obvious response from a heart that has been lifted up. No one should be 'shocked and appalled' by this kind of behavior from young novice believers, because the devil seems to have a stronghold on many of them in that department.
 
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AnandaHya

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Consumed said:
That is a good read, more of us should read this, but I'm sure self righteous I have the truth been illuminated kinda people will justify themselves and just disregard it as if it doesn't apply to them and just continue on their merry way. A good teacher never stops learning, learning that love is far deeper and wider that our puny little minds could ever comprehend. How deep is His love?? How shallow is ours
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in comparison to God our knowledge and puny attempts at anything are like that of a toddler "helping" clean house, but like a loving parent God encourages us to grow and try our best. :) here are some more verses from His book this morning :)

I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.

~ John 16:33, NLT

Red, its apostle then?
 
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unclefester

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Red33;500582[FONT=Arial Black said:
]This '4runner', in seeking an office within the church, is far too lifted up in his heart to just seek to be a prophet. His aim and calling, as he goes from one assembly of believers to another, is the earmark of one who considers himself greater than a prophet. The way he has offered himself on this site with this superficial manufactured authority and how he presents what he understands about the scriptures in chiding believers and especially in relationship and identification with the apostle Paul, is a strong indication of his intentions and approbation with self appointed tendencies.

He dare not come right out and say until he has established himself among certain gullible brethren that would qualify and esteem his approbation for that office. He is a piece of work but is only a novice that is headed for a snare and a huge pitfall. Hopefully he will humble himself and fear God and stop living in self indulgent illusions that have captured his mind and the imaginations of his heart. He will probably deny and condemn this post but that would only be an obvious response from a heart that has been lifted up. No one should be 'shocked and appalled' by this kind of behavior from young novice believers, because the devil seems to have a stronghold on many of them in that department.
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Couldn't agree more with this post Red. One or two others come to mind as well.
 
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4runner

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Red33 said:
This '4runner', in seeking an office within the church, is far to lifted up in his heart to just seek to be a prophet. His aim and calling, as he goes from one assembly of believers to another, is the earmark of one who considers himself greater than a prophet. The way he has offered himself on this site with this superficial manufactured authority and how he presents what he understands about the scriptures in chiding believers and especially in relationship and identification with the apostle Paul, is a strong indication of his intentions and approbation with self appointed tendencies.

He dare not come right out and say until he has established himself among certain gullible brethren that would qualify and esteem his approbation for that office. He is a piece of work but is only a novice that is headed for a snare and a huge pitfall. Hopefully he will humble himself and fear God and stop living in self indulgent illusions that have captured his mind and the imaginations of his heart. He will probably deny and condemn this post but that would only be an obvious response from a heart that has been lifted up. No one should be 'shocked and appalled' by this kind of behavior from young novice believers, because the devil seems to have a stronghold on many of them in that department.
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hahaha this is great. I am neither young or a novice, but the read was great.
 
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NoahsMom

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charismatics believe this.
so naturally they will amen. I was raised pentecostal-cog...I have been labelled charismatic many many times, I didnt amen this . This is startin to get pretty pathetic, all this us Vs them , third grade bickering. Zone, I love you, I love your loyalty to the truth, I love the fact that you stand when you feel something is so very important, so many ppl will not, they just look away.What I have noticed, is alot of " well they must be pentecostal, or charismatic, or they must be followers of arnold murray", and its startin to hurt my feelings, because even if I dont agree with you on everything you say, Id never put you in a box.
 
zone

zone

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NoahsMom said:
charismatics believe this.
so naturally they will amen. I was raised pentecostal-cog...I have been labelled charismatic many many times, I didnt amen this . This is startin to get pretty pathetic, all this us Vs them , third grade bickering. Zone, I love you, I love your loyalty to the truth, I love the fact that you stand when you feel something is so very important, so many ppl will not, they just look away.What I have noticed, is alot of " well they must be pentecostal, or charismatic, or they must be followers of arnold murray", and its startin to hurt my feelings, because even if I dont agree with you on everything you say, Id never put you in a box.
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i love you too.
i know you were raised pentecostal.

i know it hurts your feelings to hear things about the extremists in those congregations.

that's why i'm leaving. i can't not say what i know.
you have my email Ma.
love you.

zone

folks, please don't send me any PMs....i won't be responding. use my email.
 
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NoahsMom

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And.......to everyone who opposes Zone, No we may not agree 100% on every belief we have, but she is NOT a jezebel, a demon , a heretic, or any of the things so nicely put in these threads , she is a child of God, with feelings and concerns like everyone else, treat her as such and you might find the wonderful person I did.
 
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AnandaHya

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NoahsMom said:
And.......to everyone who opposes Zone, No we may not agree 100% on every belief we have, but she is NOT a jezebel, a demon , a heretic, or any of the things so nicely put in these threads , she is a child of God, with feelings and concerns like everyone else, treat her as such and you might find the wonderful person I did.
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that one would call Zone such things reflect more what is in their heart then what is in hers. I too agree that Zone is a child of God with a heart that yearns to keep people from deception and we don't agree on everything either but she tests people and I found her bravery to stand up for the truth instead of ignoring it inspiring.

I found to often people ignore things going wrong around them. they are to caught up in their own righteousness they don't hear the cries of the children, they don't have time to weep with those who are weeping or rejoice with those who rejoice.

believe and judge what you want but if you judge others jezebels, demons and heretics I suggest you look inside your own hearts for you might find them closer description of your own state of affairs then you would like to admit.

I don't like when people lie, especially when they are lying to themselves. May God have mercy upon us all.
 
Avinu

Avinu

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Most church members are shocked when they hear the truth, they are offended by it, they hate you for speaking it. Most church members want to remain in darkness loving their sin, they definitely dont want you exposing them. However God has told us to cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their sins. Will we cry out and obey God or will we keep silent because of our fear of man?

Isaiah 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
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This couldn't be more true, when you really bring out the truth with plenty of scripture to back it up, people overlook the scripture and just try to find ways to accuse and attack. Even those you thought were your brother or sister in Christ turn on you. It's a real eye opener to who is real and who isn't. Like Yeshua said, not all who cry Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of Heaven. As sad as it is to say, there are alot of phony christians out there and in here. Don't buckle for even a moment, stand solid as you are. Shalom
 
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Nalu

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zone said:
i love you too.
i know you were raised pentecostal.

i know it hurts your feelings to hear things about the extremists in those congregations.

that's why i'm leaving. i can't not say what i know.
you have my email Ma.
love you.

zone

folks, please don't send me any PMs....i won't be responding. use my email.
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Ohhhhh nooooo Zone, please don't leave.
 
jonathanbchristian

jonathanbchristian

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Prophets again, man you guys are on every post! For the record, I don't think that many people are claiming to be prophets or anything else. It seems like if people don't like your post you become a prophet. That's sad.
 
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Nalu

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Okay, I thought long and hard about this (actually I am making this up as I go)

Zone, in the short time that I have been here I have come to rely on your'e steadfast and uncompromising defense of the Bible.

You are one of the strongest warriors we have.

So it has come down you this, looks at Zone with tear filled eyes and says, Zone if you leave, I shall be forced to sell my dog (imaginary dog) on ebay.
I ask that you not make me do this as I have grown quite attached to this pretend dog.

We are not politicians, we do not need any ones vote, nor are we out to win popularity contest's.

Zone I realize that you are being given a hard time, just keep this in the back of your'e mind, that there are people here that Love you. PS, don't go.
 
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4runner

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AnandaHya said:
that one would call Zone such things reflect more what is in their heart then what is in hers
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People are truly delusional. Calling a wolf out doesnt show that the follower of Christ is worse than the wolf, smh
 
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4runner

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Nalu said:
Okay, I thought long and hard about this (actually I am making this up as I go)

Zone, in the short time that I have been here I have come to rely on your'e steadfast and uncompromising defense of the Bible.

You are one of the strongest warriors we have.

So it has come down you this, looks at Zone with tear filled eyes and says, Zone if you leave, I shall be forced to sell my dog (imaginary dog) on ebay.
I ask that you not make me do this as I have grown quite attached to this pretend dog.

We are not politicians, we do not need any ones vote, nor are we out to win popularity contest's.

Zone I realize that you are being given a hard time, just keep this in the back of your'e mind, that there are people here that Love you. PS, don't go.
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Romans 16
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.



Zone is one of these deceivers spoken of here. Those that follow her are the simple.

What did Jesus says about this?

Matthew 15
13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both
shall fall into the ditch


Those of you that want to follow lies, and blind leaders , making idols of men, go ahead. As for me and my house, God is our God, and we will believe nothing the Father has not planted.
 
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